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Spoloma
11.19.2019 , 05:12 AM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Ylliarus View Post
And clearly, the revenue they're making of off it is satisfying EA or otherwise they would have cut losses much earlier. If you want to view this negatively then that is of course your prerogative, but you can't present your views as facts. Especially in light of the article that clearly indicates that EA wants to continue these types of businesses. SWTOR is making EA a ton of revenue and they won't simply throw it away or forget about it, no matter how many projects they'll have Bioware working on. So no, the OP is not onto something here and unsubbing will not help you get your dissatisfaction be heard. If you are unhappy with the game and want to go onto something else, sure, go ahead and unsubscribe. But don't call for or expect others to follow your suit, simply out of protest.
News flash, there is a difference between revenue and profits. Actual profits are, at least, twice lower. And again, why do you think we're not getting consistent updates like during 2/3.x era? Because actual profits are LOW. Knowing that, EA does what is does best, which is milk it for all it's worth. Sure, you can stick around for as long as you want, OP said he will cancel his sub. Last time i checked, he's not urging anyone else.
Besides, where exactly i'm incorrect. or factually wrong? Do tell.

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Ylliarus
11.19.2019 , 05:21 AM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Spoloma View Post
News flash, there is a difference between revenue and profits. Actual profits are, at least, twice lower. And again, why do you think we're not getting consistent updates like during 2/3.x era? Because actual profits are LOW. Knowing that, EA does what is does best, which is milk it for all it's worth. Sure, you can stick around for as long as you want, OP said he will cancel his sub. Last time i checked, he's not urging anyone else.
Besides, where exactly i'm incorrect. or factually wrong? Do tell.
You are already wrong in your statement that the OP is not urging anyone else to unsub. That alone is already telling there are flaws in your posts:

Quote: Originally Posted by Collec View Post
Unsub and send them message.
Consider this: SWTOR made 1 billion revenue with the current size playerbase. The MMO is not as big as WoW or ESO, if the same revenue numbers were released if SWTOR had millions of players, then yes, I would have agreed with you. But where WoW and ESO have millions each, this game has what, 300.000 or so? You can't therefore compare this MMO to the big ones, which have a lot more players to generate revenue and profits. The fact that SWTOR reached 1 billion with this playerbase size, shows that players are invested into this game and want to continue it. That is the signal that EA is getting from the game right now.

Do I agree more of those profits and revenue should be poured back into SWTOR? Absolutely. But honestly, would you rather see this game shutting down than continuing as it had all these years? Do you want to see it gone forever instead of getting regular but infrequent content updates like we do now? Because I know what I would rather have.
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SerraShar
11.19.2019 , 05:29 AM | #13
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But honestly, would you rather see this game shutting down than continuing as it had all these years? Do you want to see it gone forever instead of getting regular but infrequent content updates like we do now? Because I know what I would rather have.
And honestly, don't take this the wrong way but to me you come off as you are letting your fear cloud your judgement a little .

You see someone who wanna Unsub as ''He gonna doom us all! I love this game, and I don't want it to be shut down'' .

What will you do, if all the clutching and holding you have been doing, turn out that in the end EA just doesn't care . They are and have been just milking every cent they could get and at some point they get this new super cool project and will turn off the Light on this game ?

Far from me to tell you how to feel or what to do . But telling peoples to cool off , to stick around cose there is hope in the horizon...is just not enough anymore .

In the end, if Swtor shut down. It won't be because its Players fault, they don't buy enough CC or Sub long enough.

It would be because EA decided so . You should turn your head a little above the players base, and look at Sauron! uh..I mean at EA! They are the one who made the ring that rule them ALL! XD

Okay..I shuttup now lolol
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Ylliarus
11.19.2019 , 05:42 AM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by SerraShar View Post
And honestly, don't take this the wrong way but to me you come off as you are letting your fear cloud your judgement a little .

You see someone who wanna Unsub as ''He gonna doom us all! I love this game, and I don't want it to be shut down'' .

What will you do, if all the clutching and holding you have been doing, turn out that in the end EA just doesn't care . They are and have been just milking every cent they could get and at some point they get this new super cool project and will turn off the Light on this game ?

Far from me to tell you how to feel or what to do . But telling peoples to cool off , to stick around cose there is hope in the horizon...is just not enough anymore .

In the end, if Swtor shut down. It won't be because its Players fault, they don't buy enough CC or Sub long enough.

It would be because EA decided so . You should turn your head a little above the players base, and look at Sauron! uh..I mean at EA! They are the one who made the ring that rule them ALL! XD

Okay..I shuttup now lolol
But perhaps a little hope or convincing is what some players may need to keep playing this game or give it one last shot? Of course, no one needs to listen to me as I am not any kind of authority. But perhaps a positive message or a different perspective than a solely negative one, may dispel the clouds someone else might have covering their vision

I do see where you are coming from and I know that, no matter how hard I might try, if EA decides to pull the plug, the plug will be pulled. But that doesn't mean players can't show one another different perspectives on this subject. Criticism has to be given when it's due, but the same has to be said of praise. And where Bioware and EA are making mistakes regarding SWTOR, there's also positive sides and aspects. Because if there were only negatives to this, the game wouldn't be making the revenue it does now.

I do see that EA is severely debilitating this game's potential. I know SWTOR could be as big as WoW or ESO if it received the right resources and manpower. And I wish that one day, that will indeed happen, as naive as that hope or wish may be. I am not blind to EA's doing, or lack of doing better said. But they own the licence to the Star Wars franchise, they have the exclusive right to making Star Wars games. So until that changes, no matter how much we'd want it, they'll remain in charge of the Star Wars franchise game-wise.

But there is hope on the horizon, just look at Jedi Fallen Order, it's slated to be a huge success! It's getting huge praise and very positive reviews by even the most critical of people. If EA sees the success such games can have, they might yet reconsider their stance on SWTOR, which is a game very much like Jedi Fallen Order, with even a bigger focus on story.
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SerraShar
11.19.2019 , 05:47 AM | #15
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just look at Jedi Fallen Order
Eww no thank you! I aint touching that one with the ''Can't make female or Alien, cose Humanity must look like your average white Joe''



I guess anything is possible, as long as somoene keep the light on
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11.19.2019 , 05:54 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Ylliarus View Post
And clearly, the revenue they're making of off it is satisfying EA or otherwise they would have cut losses much earlier.
You have to bear in mind that EA has a license which expires soon. Why would you shut the game down before that, if you payed for the license already? A logical approach would be to milk as much money out of it, till you have the license with little investment into it.
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Ylliarus
11.19.2019 , 06:46 AM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by merovejec View Post
You have to bear in mind that EA has a license which expires soon. Why would you shut the game down before that, if you payed for the license already? A logical approach would be to milk as much money out of it, till you have the license with little investment into it.
I doubt EA will loose the license, especially seeing as how well Jedi Fallen Order is doing. I think it's very likely that EA will have its license with Disney renewed by the time it expires. Because, whether we like it or not, EA is the only company that can afford to produce for a franchise like Star Wars. So, even if the initial license expires in several years, I think it's safe to say that Disney will renew it for EA.

Quote: Originally Posted by SerraShar View Post
Eww no thank you! I aint touching that one with the ''Can't make female or Alien, cose Humanity must look like your average white Joe''



I guess anything is possible, as long as somoene keep the light on
Of course, to each their own! But the game's success can't be denied, however, especially with the very positive reviews it's getting
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JainiaDral
11.19.2019 , 07:24 AM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Ylliarus View Post
You are already wrong in your statement that the OP is not urging anyone else to unsub. That alone is already telling there are flaws in your posts:



Consider this: SWTOR made 1 billion revenue with the current size playerbase. The MMO is not as big as WoW or ESO, if the same revenue numbers were released if SWTOR had millions of players, then yes, I would have agreed with you. But where WoW and ESO have millions each, this game has what, 300.000 or so? You can't therefore compare this MMO to the big ones, which have a lot more players to generate revenue and profits. The fact that SWTOR reached 1 billion with this playerbase size, shows that players are invested into this game and want to continue it. That is the signal that EA is getting from the game right now.

Do I agree more of those profits and revenue should be poured back into SWTOR? Absolutely. But honestly, would you rather see this game shutting down than continuing as it had all these years? Do you want to see it gone forever instead of getting regular but infrequent content updates like we do now? Because I know what I would rather have.
Do you think that urging people to dump more money into SWTOR is going to encourage Bioware to post more frequent content updates? Either way, whether unsubbing or opening our wallets, players have little to no impact over the decisions of our EA and Bioware overlords.

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Collec
11.19.2019 , 07:42 AM | #19
To be clear...I don't expect BW to drop content every week or every month. Every 3rd month is reasonable time. And I get it...people are running Red Reaper for Nth time now gearing up their alts. I myself have 2 weeks left to max out Onderon reputation. It renewed my sub days ago, but today I canceled it. NO more.

Like other people have said...and what I was saying...manpower and resources are going to Anthem,Dragon Age and Mass Effect. Do you think SW devs will say " hey y'all we are working on other games now,stay subbed, xoxo BW "
Anthem was 6 years in development with last year and half really being worked on. And game came out unfinished. 2 lead people left BW, because of it.

Game has one of most famous ip's in the world...it should be in the top 3 or top 5 game easy. WoW is still on only sub based model. This game went f2p within it's first year. And it isn't players fault. WoW,ESO, FF XIV are all booming. Because devs focus on that game.

How many times have we heard "this game doesn't have enough manpower,bla bla bla" . It does have it...it's just that is working on other stuff, because STAR WARS is keeping this thing running.

Story!?!?! What fking story...bringing back Malgus...what's next...time travel Maul back to Old Republic era ???

Trash Anthem is getting more support than this game, which is their bread and butter.
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Collec
11.19.2019 , 07:44 AM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by merovejec View Post
You have to bear in mind that EA has a license which expires soon. Why would you shut the game down before that, if you payed for the license already? A logical approach would be to milk as much money out of it, till you have the license with little investment into it.
Exactly....in 3 month time we might get 20min story . Maybe new warzone or any other group content. But only one of those....maybe also new stronghold...then it's back to other game development time. Milk this STAR WARS some more...rinse and repeat.
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