Mapache Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) Me and my guild joined a PvP server to PvP, yes, that's established. But we did so in good faith since Bioware assured us that they would implement measures to prevent griefing even on PvP servers... so where are these preventions? PvP server rulesets actually promote griefing on PvP servers. Level 50's can go to Nar Shaddaa, Hoth, Alderaan, and Tatooine to just name a few and go INSIDE quest hubs, wait for questers to get off taxis, then slaughter them, they respawn there at the base, they kill them again, corpse camp, and repeat until they get some kind of help, map, or log out. Really Bioware? Just about every day I log on there are 50's inside Aurek base on Hoth waiting for people (usually lvl 40's) to come out of the spaceport, then they gank them. Seriously? There is no chance for a couple 40's to fight a group of 50's in this game, especially with the accuracy differential. PvP servers should not promote griefing. Enemy factions should NOT be able to go INSIDE enemy quest hubs/taxi locations. I'm really still scratching my head on this one. Where are the level 50 one-shot turrets around factioned quest hubs to prevent this like in other MMO's? Why can't low-levels actually HIT level 50's in pvp? Why is there such a huge accuracy differential in PvP, I can understand it being there for PvE, but PvP too? Lower level players 10+ have absolutely no chance to defend themselves against players 10 or more levels higher, even in large groups, one 50 with high defense can take out a party of 30's. And what's worse, they can't even escape on their speeders due to 50's having a 20% faster speeder. Do I like PvP? Yes, but I don't like griefing and ya'll said there would be things in the game to prevent griefing... what things? Here are my ideas for fixing PvP on PvP servers, and I think there'd be a lot more happy players if you implemented these ideas. Remove the accuracy debuff on lower-level players so they can actually defend themselves against 50's. Accuracy should be based on stats, not level. They will probably die anyways, but at least 10 level 20's will actually stand a chance against 1 50.Add level 50 Champion one-shot turrets and stealth detection fields to all Taxi Locations to prevent taxi/spawn campingGive players the ability to buy some kind of "Treaty Badge" on PvP servers that prevents players from attacking or being attacked in open world PvP for 24 hrs but it does not work in Warzones or Ilum. Alternatively, this badge could be a permanent open-world protection from attack from enemy players 8 or more levels higher. Edited January 8, 2012 by Mapache Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Rathus Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 pvp forum ---> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyInternets Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 If you don't like PvP then don't select PvP servers. You dug your own grave, now lie in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PjPablo Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 The thing is here is there is a player controlled solution to this. Gather up faction forces and fight back. Kick them out. On PVP servers this is going to happen and to me part of the fun of playing on a PVP server. Guys want to act like jerks? Well round up the posse and give it right back to them! P.S. I would be prepared for the "PVP happened on a PVP server" type responses here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mapache Posted January 8, 2012 Author Share Posted January 8, 2012 If you don't like PvP then don't select PvP servers. You dug your own grave, now lie in it. Level 50's camping noob quest hubs is NOT PvP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raurth Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Level 50's camping noob quest hubs is NOT PvP. Really can't blame them. If I saw your guild on my server I would slaughter you myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mapache Posted January 8, 2012 Author Share Posted January 8, 2012 The thing is here is there is a player controlled solution to this. Gather up faction forces and fight back. Kick them out. On PVP servers this is going to happen and to me part of the fun of playing on a PVP server. Guys want to act like jerks? Well round up the posse and give it right back to them! P.S. I would be prepared for the "PVP happened on a PVP server" type responses here. I agree, that is fun, but it's not fun when you are camped at your Republic respawn site on your low level quest planet, Republic NPC's all standing around doing nothing, and 4-8 lvl 50 Sith standing over your corpse. Sith shouldn't be able to go inside Republic quest hubs. Bioware said there'd be safe zones for questers on PvP planets, where are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proto Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Mepache, you're a Crusader, aren't you? Since when were they so spineless? Aren't the Christian warriors of God the chosen few who fight back depite all odds and, in the end, win? You need to persevere my brother, and stop the complaining for the forces of evil will not relent simply because you write a prayer to the almighty (Bioware) to change their source code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychosiszz Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I think your on the wrong server. Could i recommend a PVE server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincentres Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/vincentres/Screenshot_2012-01-08_07_31_51_317400.jpg This environment allows players to attack other players in many areas in the game. If you are looking for a taste of direct intergalactic conflict against other players, this may be the server type for you. However, please bear in mind that actions and situations that can be resolved though PvP are not considered harassment and will not be enforeced as such. They do support it. You dug your own grave, now lie in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerdoc Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Level 50's camping noob quest hubs is NOT PvP. Nope, its not. Still, no one had a gun to your head forcing you to roll on pvp realm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_talmor Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I want to throw my support behind you. The way PVP is right now in this game is a Hazing Process. You get Hazed all the way up to lvl 50 until you can compete with other lvl 50s. Once there, you have a few choices: - Get retribution by fighting other 50s- Pick on someone lower than you at lower level areas- Protect others who are being picked on by 50s This is just not the PVP that I prefer. I think that if people were given the option, there would only be a small vocal minority who would want to have lvl 50 vs. lvl 30 PVP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taallonn Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 No offense to the OP, but the first gank squad i saw on the server was 4 of your guildmates all higher level than the majority of the people questing on hoth, so you reap what you sow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blurps Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Level 50's camping noob quest hubs is NOT PvP. Are you new to the internet ? What kind of players did you think PvP servers would attract ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGolubets Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Damn, do ever read? Specially for you when you choose pvp server there is a warning: "This is PvP server bla bla bla.. Are you sure?". PvP Server = NO restrictions. It's your mistake that you did not read. Now **** and wait for transfer to PvE server where your place is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurderBunny Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Your in a Guild right??. Therese your answer. Now i am not lvl 50, but i more or less murder any one that comes my way and if they annoy me in any way i will camp there corpse. I try not to, but i will if they try and punt me down a pit or jump me mid fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soazak Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) I died in PvP zone Try a PvE server Edited January 8, 2012 by Soazak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cebby Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 First of all pvp server or not, plenty of games have rushed to fix this before.. why not follow there example before launch? Bioware added pvp as an after thought. WZ, open pvp on pve server is useless. Biotech add ons make even fights, uneven. As far as posting about it, remember you are posting it for bioware to fix (good luck btw) not the limp bro's that are replying, most likely the very people who are ganking you your guild and the rest of the lowbies on the server. @OP switch servers.. now. or quit swtor like others are doing over a broken pvp system. @trolls enjoy your empty server and although i KNOW your attention span doesn't allow for guilt. It might be time to grow up. @player controled solution. Rallying troops to kill a couple dooshbags takes a long while, when everyone else on the server is busy ganking someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunahokalugi Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Where are the rules of engagement where Bioware ensures they will counter griefing? Links please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killadrix Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Level 50's camping noob quest hubs is NOT PvP. Actually, it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadNewzzz Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Omg they do PVP on PVP server and BW doesn't stop them? Thats it i'm going back to hello kitty online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killadrix Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 First of all pvp server or not, plenty of games have rushed to fix this before.. why not follow there example before launch? Bioware added pvp as an after thought. WZ, open pvp on pve server is useless. Biotech add ons make even fights, uneven. As far as posting about it, remember you are posting it for bioware to fix (good luck btw) not the limp bro's that are replying, most likely the very people who are ganking you your guild and the rest of the lowbies on the server. @OP switch servers.. now. or quit swtor like others are doing over a broken pvp system. @trolls enjoy your empty server and although i KNOW your attention span doesn't allow for guilt. It might be time to grow up. @player controled solution. Rallying troops to kill a couple dooshbags takes a long while, when everyone else on the server is busy ganking someone else. I like how people always try to claim that <insert company here> "included PVP as an afterthought" as if every successful MMO hasn't included PVP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keedo Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I'm all for griefing and world PvP. If you don't like it role a toon on a PvE server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogmahone Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Go to a PvE server and flag yourself if you wish. Dont ruin my fun times in a PvP server because you got killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illutian Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Not sure why you're making a big deal about 'this' carebear pvp. Though I do laugh at the "big boys" who think this pvp means anything. Come back when you've destroyed several thousand dollars in assets; come back and brag then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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