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Hardcore players are bane of mmos in current stage

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Hardcore players are bane of mmos in current stage

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onegoldpls
08.12.2015 , 07:52 PM | #1
Not just in SWTOR but in every other mmo developers always try to satisfie two group of player: casuals and professional/hardcores.
The problem is that majority(casuals) simply can't be satisfied if hardcores(absolute minority 1-2% of all players) can be.
Hardcore players have all content avalable, while casuals(not very skilled players) have only part of it. Tthey want more, but they can't because they don't have enough skill - as result they quit which is bad for a game
Until developers forget about these cancerous hardcore communities and make mmo easy and happy for casuals, mmos will die. This same thing applies to wow, swtor and different mmos.

And the solution is simple - remove hard pve content.
Who want some challenge - pvp is your home.

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Shwarzchild
08.12.2015 , 08:09 PM | #2
Funny. First it was all you filthy hardcores go to hardmode and get out of story mode. Now it's oh you filthy hardcores you go to pvp get out of my pve.

That axe you're grinding has to be sharp enough at this point in time right? For a hardcore player who's 8/10 you sure are the champion for the lower tiers aren't you.

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Khevar
08.12.2015 , 08:54 PM | #3
Here's an alternative viewpoint:

Not every bit of content in an MMO has to appeal to every single player in it.

Some like crafting. Others don't. Some like PvP. Others don't. Some like group content. Others don't. Some like space PvP. Others don't. Some like datacron hunting. Others don't. etc. etc. etc.

What's wrong with an MMO having niche content that isn't consumed by the majority of players?

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ScarletBlaze
08.12.2015 , 08:59 PM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by Khevar View Post
Here's an alternative viewpoint:

Not every bit of content in an MMO has to appeal to every single player in it.

Some like crafting. Others don't. Some like PvP. Others don't. Some like group content. Others don't. Some like space PvP. Others don't. Some like datacron hunting. Others don't. etc. etc. etc.

What's wrong with an MMO having niche content that isn't consumed by the majority of players?
This. There are things I don't like (pvp) but I know there are people that do and they should have the content they like as well as what I like.

They should not focus on one group.
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FerkWork
08.12.2015 , 09:00 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by onegoldpls View Post
Not just in SWTOR but in every other mmo developers always try to satisfie two group of player: casuals and professional/hardcores.
The problem is that majority(casuals) simply can't be satisfied if hardcores(absolute minority 1-2% of all players) can be.
Hardcore players have all content avalable, while casuals(not very skilled players) have only part of it. Tthey want more, but they can't because they don't have enough skill - as result they quit which is bad for a game
Until developers forget about these cancerous hardcore communities and make mmo easy and happy for casuals, mmos will die. This same thing applies to wow, swtor and different mmos.

And the solution is simple - remove hard pve content.
Who want some challenge - pvp is your home.
Oh boy shots fired. For someone who is on Cora and Revan you do like to QQ a lot about content called HARDMODE like it's right there in the title FFS
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mynameisbugged
08.12.2015 , 09:09 PM | #6
watch all the casual players leave the game as soon as they are done with the story(most of them even leave without completing the story). Casual players are just that, casual. If some other game peaks their interest, say bye bye swtor. Remember what happened when diablo 3 came out?

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Banegio
08.12.2015 , 09:31 PM | #7
It is a matter of degree.
You chop the current "hardcore" out. Then there is the hardcore end of the casuals.
You can turn the game into Angry Birds but then Candy Crush is more accessible.

If accessibility/popularity is the sole measurement, why even make pc games?

That's the problem when publishers acquired studios. There is a natural healthy tension when you have different stakeholders in the business process.
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Elusive_Thing
08.13.2015 , 04:52 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Khevar View Post
Here's an alternative viewpoint:

Not every bit of content in an MMO has to appeal to every single player in it.

Some like crafting. Others don't. Some like PvP. Others don't. Some like group content. Others don't. Some like space PvP. Others don't. Some like datacron hunting. Others don't. etc. etc. etc.

What's wrong with an MMO having niche content that isn't consumed by the majority of players?
A good point, but.. Some enjoy hunting those blasted datacrons?

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Asdif_Laoeg
08.13.2015 , 04:57 AM | #9
@Elusive_Thing:
Yes, i love it to get the datacrons. Its fun. Only the long wait (tatooine baloon) are booring unless other people are on the baloon. Then you can have some fun conversations.

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Elusive_Thing
08.13.2015 , 04:59 AM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by Asdif_Laoeg View Post
@Elusive_Thing:
Yes, i love it to get the datacrons. Its fun. Only the long wait (tatooine baloon) are booring unless other people are on the baloon. Then you can have some fun conversations.
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