Aurbere Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 (edited) “Who will be the winners? Who will be the corpses? Audience, place your bets!” Team Selenial vs Team Karadron Darth Krayt, Darth Wyyrlok III & Darth Talon vs Darth Traya, Darth Nox, Darth Sion & Cipher Nine Welcome to Round 1C of the Heats. For anyone new to the tournament, please look over the rules first before participating, and those who are familiar, you may wish to remind yourselves of how it all works. The battleground: Alderaan Mountains *Darth Nox is the Sith Assassin Advanced Class Teams start 25 meters away from each other. Rules of the Debate Victory by killing, KO’ing or otherwise incapacitating all of the opposing team. Combatants cannot hide or run, though tactical retreats or attempts to lure the opponent is permitted. Combatant morals and personality traits apply, however they are all ready and willing to kill their opponents. All combatants are equipped with their standard arms and armament. Combatants do not possess any prior knowledge of their opponents beyond what they already know. But they are aware of the names of their combatants which are announced immediately before the fight. Any and all Force nexuses or amplifiers are for the purposes of debate non-existent. No flaming, trolling or aggressive debating, keep it chill people. So without further ado, let the battle begin! Edited June 27, 2015 by Aurbere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted June 25, 2015 Author Share Posted June 25, 2015 As you are no doubt aware, I will be arbitrating this match. So long as you follow the rules and create good arguments, we'll have no problems. Looking forward to seeing where this goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 As you are no doubt aware, I will be arbitrating this match. So long as you follow the rules and create good arguments, we'll have no problems. Looking forward to seeing where this goes. I promise nothing ^^ Anyway, good luck Karadron! Would you like the first post or no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted June 25, 2015 Author Share Posted June 25, 2015 I promise nothing ^^ Anyway, good luck Karadron! Would you like the first post or no? I know. It's hard for you to craft arguments as immaculate as mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 (edited) first note, Karadron has a 4v3 advantage. Numbers arent everything... but they certainly help. He has a 33% greater person advantage and that could be a deciding factor to top it off, Cypher Nine can very well be a sniper and possibly hit opponents out side of their sensory ranges especially in a large open area like the mountains very safe from harm. Edited June 25, 2015 by tunewalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowMudkip Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 first note, Karadron has a 4v3 advantage. Numbers arent everything... but they certainly help. He has a 33% greater person advantage and that could be a deciding factor to top it off, Cypher Nine can very well be a sniper and possibly hit opponents out side of their sensory ranges especially in a large open area like the mountains very safe from harm. Just a note, but I think spectators are supposed to stay out of the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Just a note, but I think spectators are supposed to stay out of the first round. oh.... ok... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted June 25, 2015 Author Share Posted June 25, 2015 Just a note, but I think spectators are supposed to stay out of the first round. We would appreciate it if arguments are not made by spectators. Making corrections and pointing out the facts are encouraged however. Just be cautious of the line between making arguments and pointing out facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 We would appreciate it if arguments are not made by spectators. Making corrections and pointing out the facts are encouraged however. Just be cautious of the line between making arguments and pointing out facts. Indeed, I think pointing out something as obvious as that isn't really making an argument, more just an observation that would direct whatever arguments people would come out with later on. But indeed, it's a fine line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted June 25, 2015 Author Share Posted June 25, 2015 Indeed, I think pointing out something as obvious as that isn't really making an argument, more just an observation that would direct whatever arguments people would come out with later on. But indeed, it's a fine line. Agreed. It's all good, Tune. You're fine for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenceo Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 (edited) Hope this doesn't 'cross the line' but won't Nox's ghosts be able to amp him to insane ends? (I am unsure if they are with him, since they are part of Nox's arsenal, yet you can not choose spirits as characters for this tournament) Side Note: My own Nox is an Assassin, not a Sorcerer. Silly Beni putting him strictly under force specialist. Though, wasn't it said that it would be a mixture of the two? Edited June 25, 2015 by Silenceo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted June 25, 2015 Author Share Posted June 25, 2015 Hope this doesn't 'cross the line' but won't Nox's ghosts be able to amp him to insane ends? (I am unsure if they are with him, since they are part of Nox's arsenal, yet you can not choose spirits as characters for this tournament) Side Note: My own Nox is an Assassin, not a Sorcerer. Silly Beni putting him strictly under force specialist. Though, wasn't it said that it would be a mixture of the two? Yes they would. And they should be a part of the character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Anyway, good luck Karadron! Would you like the first post or no? Thought I'd quote this to double check, I'd rather take the rebuttal post if I'm honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karadron Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Thought I'd quote this to double check, I'd rather take the rebuttal post if I'm honest. Sorry I've been busy. If you want I could make a very short first post where I just pop in a couple of links to respect threads or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) Sorry I've been busy. If you want I could make a very short first post where I just pop in a couple of links to respect threads or something. Honestly I'm happy to start late if you need time, I'm arbitrating another match anyway so begin when you're ready I'm a Bridesmaid at a wedding tomorrow so I won't have time to reply for a while anyway Edited June 26, 2015 by Selenial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karadron Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Rudimentary and just to start things post: Traya Sion Nox Cipher 9 Most Impressive per chapter Feats: 1. Outplaying Jadus. Cipher 9 uncovers his plan, surprising the Dark Lord. More impressive is the fact that Cipher 9 most likely defeats him—not by killing him but by being able to survive long enough to trap him on the bridge of his ship. Jadus is according to Watcher 2 the second most powerful person in the Empire. 2. Breaking brainwashing. Without outside help, Watcher X is all inside Cipher 9’s head, the agent is able to find a way to override the brainwashing done on them by Keeper. The whole reason that Cipher 9 was brainwashed was because the Dark Council was scared of the agent after the Jadus affair—opposing a Dark Council member and all that. Chipher 9 also defeats Ardun Kothe, a Jedi in combat but that’s no big deal. 3. Not breaking in torture. Length of time undisclosed, but long enough so that they get pretty beat up. Reveals high tolerance for pain and more importantly mental defenses. Or uncovering the Space Illuminati which had been operating for over a millennia without being discovered. Either works. Skills: Top of class in Agent School. Specifically demonstrating skills in assassination, infiltration, manipulation, sabotage, etc. Cipher 9 demonstrates skill in ranged and melee combat. Gadgets: Cipher 9 uses a variety of different tools, like all Imperial Agents, to accomplish their goal whatever it might be. These gadgets can be anything from deadly poisons to grenades (SWTOR:E 140). Confirmed weapons are a vibroknife, a blaster rifle or sniper rifle, and a portable cover device—a rechargeable shield generator (SWTOR:E 141). Weapons used are often modified to be more powerful than they normally would be (SWTOR:E 140). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted June 26, 2015 Author Share Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) http://www.comicvine.com/profile/aurbere/blog/darth-nox-respect-thread/104619/ I'd like to think my Nox thread is the superior version. Edited June 26, 2015 by Aurbere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karadron Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 http://www.comicvine.com/profile/aurbere/blog/darth-nox-respect-thread/104619/ I'd like to think my Nox thread is the superior version. I can't get it to load the page keeps crashing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted June 26, 2015 Author Share Posted June 26, 2015 I can't get it to load the page keeps crashing. You need a better PC. The gifs are what is causing that, and there are a lot of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karadron Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) You need a better PC. The gifs are what is causing that, and there are a lot of them. Yeah that's what I thought so I moved to a better one. It's still temperamental but I saw enough--I think--to see your points. EDIT: Yes it is better. Edited June 26, 2015 by karadron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cs_zoltan Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 I enjoy this debate. Go go Sel!!! What? I'm totally not biased Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenceo Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) I enjoy this debate. Go go Sel!!! What? I'm totally not biased QUERY: Do you know what happened to her LAST apprentice? *Glances over, seeing Sel glaring* ADVISEMENT: Forget I said anything. *Leaves* Edited June 26, 2015 by Silenceo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted June 26, 2015 Author Share Posted June 26, 2015 I enjoy this debate. Go go Sel!!! What? I'm totally not biased lawls Of course you're not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cs_zoltan Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 lawls Of course you're not. Don't worry, I'll cheer for you too. Maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted June 26, 2015 Author Share Posted June 26, 2015 Don't worry, I'll cheer for you too. Maybe. Meh, cheer for whoever makes the best arguments. So I guess you'll be cheering for me then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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