Amien Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 lol the people saying jedi's can use red lightsaber's obviously know nothing about Starwar's lore at all. no jedi ever used a red saber. that was a 1 time situation where he had too. red sabers are sith color and sith only. A member on the Jedi council uses one permanently! Red are only synthetically made crystals. Blue, Green, Purple, Orange, Yellow are all colors that grow naturally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MXIII Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 A member on the Jedi council uses one permanently! Red are only synthetically made crystals. Blue, Green, Purple, Orange, Yellow are all colors that grow naturally. A Synth Crustal can be any color. Luke made a green one, because Luke probably doesnt even know what the hell an Illum is, and therefore couldnt find a natural crystal. Many jedi used sith crystals before the reformation, because they were easy to make. They were of course more unstable and more prone to decay than a normal crystal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonimator Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 A Synth Crustal can be any color. Luke made a green one, because Luke probably doesnt even know what the hell an Illum is, and therefore couldnt find a natural crystal. Many jedi used sith crystals before the reformation, because they were easy to make. They were of course more unstable and more prone to decay than a normal crystal. Freudian slip there? I think you meant many jedi used SYNTH crystals Also, Amien, red's not ONLY available as synthetic... Dantooine had a bunch of red crystals in their crystal cave back in KOTOR. And what Council member uses a red one permanently? I'm guessing you mean the movies here... Adi Gallia had one until AOTC; she wasn't ever shown lighting up in AOTC or ROTS (according to the EU at the time, she died during the Clone Wars), but in The Clone Wars TV show she sports a blue saber, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solbjorn Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 lol the people saying jedi's can use red lightsaber's obviously know nothing about Starwar's lore at all. no jedi ever used a red saber. that was a 1 time situation where he had too. red sabers are sith color and sith only. the only reason red is a sith color is because the natural crystals that jedi find are not red. if there were red ones theyd have no issue whatsoever in using them. the red crystals that sith use are artificial using dark side energy to create. this is the the ONLY reason jedi dont use red and sith do. if there were natural red crystals jedi would also use red. the color red does not equal sith. the process in which red sabers are made equals sith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solbjorn Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 (edited) ok multiple people seem to have pointed out what i said already and in more detail. guess i should have read all of the posts Edited March 22, 2012 by Solbjorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solbjorn Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 A Synth Crustal can be any color. Luke made a green one, because Luke probably doesnt even know what the hell an Illum is, and therefore couldnt find a natural crystal. Many jedi used sith crystals before the reformation, because they were easy to make. They were of course more unstable and more prone to decay than a normal crystal. you are correct but he did not use dark side energy to create it. from what i read he actually just made a crystal from scratch and i believe it took him several months to build his light saber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZirusZero Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 I find that Katie Lucas made his return a really, well written one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MXIII Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 you are correct but he did not use dark side energy to create it. from what i read he actually just made a crystal from scratch and i believe it took him several months to build his light saber A synth crystal isnt made using dark side energy, ALL synth crystals are made from scratch. The Sith use Dark side energy to give their synth crystals a red glow, however you can make a red synth crystal just by willing it to be that color, you dont NEED the darkside to do it. The use of alchemy and the darkside of the force were meant to strengthen synth crystals used by the sith, and so they just ALWAYS come out red, because of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryptonson Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 lol the people saying jedi's can use red lightsaber's obviously know nothing about Starwar's lore at all. no jedi ever used a red saber. that was a 1 time situation where he had too. red sabers are sith color and sith only. Not true, lots of Jedi used red lightsabers, red were not sith only, just that the sith preferred red. Adi Gallia who was on the jedi council used one (mentioned in several books, not to mention her figure had one). Many jedi in the books and comics used red lightsabers. Many sith also used blue, green, etc. blades. There are no color restrictions to lightsabers. Sith for the most part preferred red, but didn't have to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MXIII Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Not to mention that Episode one the phantom Menace, 100% confirms that red is not exclsive to the Sith. Or else when Qui-gon Jinn woulda told the council the Sith had returned they wouldnt have been skeptical at all. He would have been like "The dude wore black robes and wielded a red saber, he was a sith!" And yoda woulda been like "Red lightsaber you say? Sith he most definitely is!" But thats not how it went down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiksen Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 This isn't even canon. Maul was killed on Naboo. End of story. ^This Whats happening in the movies are canon, not spin offs like this. I mean Anakin and Obi Wan have fought Grievous countless times in the animation series yet in Revenge of the Sith, Obi Wan, Anakin and Grievous seem to meet for the first time. Where Greivous says to Anakin that he thought someone with his reputation to be a little older, where Anakin replies; Grievous your shorter than i expected. There are also other things that happen in Revenge of the Sith that they didnt know about, that seems to happen to them often in the Animation series. If it didn't happen in the movies it didnt happen at all. Thats my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 ^This Whats happening in the movies are canon, not spin offs like this. I mean Anakin and Obi Wan have fought Grievous countless times in the animation series yet in Revenge of the Sith, Obi Wan, Anakin and Grievous seem to meet for the first time. Where Greivous says to Anakin that he thought someone with his reputation to be a little older, where Anakin replies; Grievous your shorter than i expected. There are also other things that happen in Revenge of the Sith that they didnt know about, that seems to happen to them often in the Animation series. If it didn't happen in the movies it didnt happen at all. Thats my opinion. Anakin has never met Grevious in the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MXIII Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 ^This Whats happening in the movies are canon, not spin offs like this. I mean Anakin and Obi Wan have fought Grievous countless times in the animation series yet in Revenge of the Sith, Obi Wan, Anakin and Grievous seem to meet for the first time. Where Greivous says to Anakin that he thought someone with his reputation to be a little older, where Anakin replies; Grievous your shorter than i expected. There are also other things that happen in Revenge of the Sith that they didnt know about, that seems to happen to them often in the Animation series. If it didn't happen in the movies it didnt happen at all. Thats my opinion. Well your opinion has flaws. Anakin and Grievous never meet in the clone wars cartoons. either of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonimator Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 ^This Whats happening in the movies are canon, not spin offs like this. I mean Anakin and Obi Wan have fought Grievous countless times in the animation series yet in Revenge of the Sith, Obi Wan, Anakin and Grievous seem to meet for the first time. Where Greivous says to Anakin that he thought someone with his reputation to be a little older, where Anakin replies; Grievous your shorter than i expected. There are also other things that happen in Revenge of the Sith that they didnt know about, that seems to happen to them often in the Animation series. If it didn't happen in the movies it didnt happen at all. Thats my opinion. Then quit your subscription and give up Star Wars fandom outside talking about the movies, if that's your opinion. Cuz this game didn't happen. No other books or comics or anything else FANS enjoy about Star Wars BEYOND the movies happened, in your opinion. George Lucas is involved HEAVILY in The Clone Wars. Not as heavily as the movies, but he approves just about every storyline, makes suggestions, etc... Maul's return was run by him. Hell, his DAUGHTER wrote the episodes! He approved it. He's not perfect--I think a lot of his ideas aren't that great (particularly the prequels, and his revisionist take on the Original Trilogy), but one of the main sticking points with movie-only fans is that "If it's not by George, it's not Star Wars." Clone Wars is run by George. It's Star Wars. The closest Grievous & Anakin have come to meeting in the show is in an episode on Naboo early in Season 4. Anakin hunts down Dooku at a secret base, they fight, and Dooku cheats by using a bunch of Magnaguards. Anakin's knocked unconscious, all in a plot to do a prisoner exchange so the Seps can get Grievous back from the Gungans (he was captured, but killed Captain Tarpals in the process). Grievous was awake during the transfer, but didn't really even look at Anakin, who was just a limp unconscious sack when traded to the Gungans. Continuity's preserved. Anakin's line about being twice as powerful as the last time he met Dooku also works, still; it just means Anakin's even more prideful in ROTS, since he thinks he's doubled in power since a few months before Coruscant (or however long it'll now be, between his last pre-ROTS confrontation with Dooku and the duel on the Invisible Hand). It's just changing the timeframe from "about 3 years since last we met" to "about X months since last we met". Still works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CelticMutt Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 ^This Whats happening in the movies are canon, not spin offs like this. I mean Anakin and Obi Wan have fought Grievous countless times in the animation series yet in Revenge of the Sith, Obi Wan, Anakin and Grievous seem to meet for the first time. Where Greivous says to Anakin that he thought someone with his reputation to be a little older, where Anakin replies; Grievous your shorter than i expected. There are also other things that happen in Revenge of the Sith that they didnt know about, that seems to happen to them often in the Animation series. If it didn't happen in the movies it didnt happen at all. Thats my opinion. George Lucas' opinion disagrees with your opinion, since it's his opinion that The Clone Wars are canon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malus_Rex Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 (edited) Exar Kun wasn't always evil and he just kept his orig color really.... This is what I think too... every Lore lover loves bringing up Kun as proof of sith using a 'Jedi coloured saber' but really he just kept his original colours when he was a Jedi! Edited March 23, 2012 by Malus_Rex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eommer Posted March 23, 2012 Author Share Posted March 23, 2012 Not to mention that Episode one the phantom Menace, 100% confirms that red is not exclsive to the Sith. Or else when Qui-gon Jinn woulda told the council the Sith had returned they wouldnt have been skeptical at all. He would have been like "The dude wore black robes and wielded a red saber, he was a sith!" And yoda woulda been like "Red lightsaber you say? Sith he most definitely is!" But thats not how it went down. Very good point. Just image the Jedi Council: - OMG! You said red lightsaber?!?! Sith definitely has return! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MXIII Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 This is what I think too... every Lore lover loves bringing up Kun as proof of sith using a 'Jedi coloured saber' but really he just kept his original colours when he was a Jedi! You sound ridiculous right now. With the restrictions in place, if you fall to the darkside you LOSE your lightsaber crystal, which completely contradicts What you are saying right now. You sir...fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antares_Navaar Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 lol the people saying jedi's can use red lightsaber's obviously know nothing about Starwar's lore at all. no jedi ever used a red saber. that was a 1 time situation where he had too. red sabers are sith color and sith only. I don't know if you're trolling, but to correct you, Jedi have used red sabers before. Leia. SMH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antares_Navaar Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 George Lucas' opinion disagrees with your opinion, since it's his opinion that The Clone Wars are canon. To be honest, wasn't aware 'canon' was a matter of opinion anywho. If it's canon, it's canon. "There's a giant tree in my already giant tree house! This isn't canon!" - Twilight Sparkle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordKyrone Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Read the books, Maul just wont die, keeps coming back, getting cloned and even being a brain in a jar :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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