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Phantom and Spymaster gear changes

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Phantom and Spymaster gear changes
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LessieBessie's Avatar

01.08.2013 , 03:41 PM | #291
Adding my name to the unhappy masses who bought the Phantom chest based on how it looked in the preview who now have to seek out another look and spend time/credits pulling mods and augmenting all over again.

Anybody got any good suggestions on what to switch to that works for light armor?

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01.08.2013 , 03:42 PM | #292
Quote: Originally Posted by JovethGonzalez View Post
In the future, we will ensure that all assets are in alignment on the Cartel Market. The final products are meant to look like the advertised art.
Fantastic, thanks!

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01.08.2013 , 03:43 PM | #293
so all those that bought the items for their look in the preview should be getting a refund for what was spent. Or will we get the older look as a different set? Your post does not answer all the questions.
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01.08.2013 , 03:44 PM | #294
Quote: Originally Posted by Mavery View Post
This is the same argument as:

"Sorry officer, I didn't know about the driving change the city passed. I was too busy driving to read the new legislation."

It doesn't matter what percentage of people visit the forums. If they put it on the launcher do you think people would read it? Probably not; people as a rule don't read notices. Should they annoy people in-game with a plethora of pop-ups every time the developers comment on something? Outside of the obvious displeasure that would cause, people still wouldn't read it.

This is how the real world works. Announcements are made on websites, notice boards, or whatever else. They're not shoved in your face. It is your responsibility to go out there and read the information. My work sends out important notices to e-mail. If I decide not to read it, that's on me and I face the consequences for it. Similiarily, BioWare posted a notice in an easily accessible space on their website. If you don't read it, it's on you.

edit: As another poster pointed out, they also published this on Known Issues on their customer service board. So it was in two places. Ignorance is not an excuse.
Once again, a very poorly constructed metaphor. Sorry, but that isn't at all like this.

If a town made a new speed limit law there would be a SIGN on the ROAD where it was changed, a place where anyone driving there would see it and thereby know it was being done. (And I honestly can't determine what other driving laws might change, but I know when seat belts because a requirement there were signs on the roads about that too).

Troll harder, cuz I'm pretty sure that's all you're doing at this point. There is absolutely NO legitimate reason that ANYONE should be against there being two armor sets - one that looks like the original 'wrong' armor and one that looks like the advertisement armor.

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01.08.2013 , 03:44 PM | #295
I got the phantom chestpeice and gloves from the GTN... i previewd them, and bought them because of how they looked...the one with out the lame shoulder , and with out a hood!

Are you and BW gona rob me on the look i spent time, credits and money to get?!?

So BW better give me that pre-patch look back!!!

Quote: Originally Posted by Magnusheart View Post
Update: C.S. Joveth even says it should appear like the promos

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The Phantom set is, as and was ALWAYS Based as an inquisitor ROBE.

Crime Lord Pack gave an orange moddable set for Smugglers and Agents
Blockade Runner gave INQUSITORS and Consulars
Skip Tracer gave Knights and Warriors
Space Pirate will give Troopers and Bounty Hunters

Phantom set was to be as it looks on the advertisment, and I'll be damned if me, or the hundreds who wanted it fixed and have begged for it for 3 weeks will be ignored on our long plight.

Its not built to be a stealthy all black scubby ninja shirt. It was a Robe, why does no many people not understand this? You are complaining it looks like a robe now BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT IT IS. Seriously, this is frustrating. You guys put this on a Smuggler or a Agent or whoever thats your issue for putting a robe on that character and expecting it to magically transform to what you wish it to be.

It is plain and simple.

"All of the armor made for the cartel market were NOT quality checked by bioware, They did not notice or realize their error until the big obvious missing components on the Blockade Set. The items were ALL FIXED TO WHAT THEY WERE ORIGINALLY SPECIFIED TO LOOK LIKE."

Look closely at the Crime Lord Pack, The Spymaster set is now exactly as it is advertised, Eye Scanner on the helmet and all.

I don't really care if this thread gets flamed on because they think I am wrong, when I am putting logic into this. Not to mention it was listed in the known bugs for the longest time.

Besides Revan's Lower Robe default color being brown as a bug, and The Chestpeice having a 2nd hood mesh on the back. Everything is what it was supposed to be.

It does not need to be turned back. I can call out False Advertising with a legal right for a refund if it gets changed back, me and hundreds of others who have complained in the CS thread since December wanting this to be the way it was supposed to be.

Quote from all the people on the forums saying it wasnt explained enough on the forums.

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01.08.2013 , 03:45 PM | #296
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
It's not their fault you went about acquiring this armor the poor way. Almost all of these sets were on the GTN 2 days after release and have been ever since. No one made you go crazy on gambling bags.
I had no problems spending the real money to buy the items. None at all, I have the financial means to do and it got me multiple armor sets I really liked for a game I enjoy. When I did it, they were NOT on GTN, as I checked there first. Only ONE piece was, and it was the spymaster body piece for 1 million credits. I have a problem with it now, since they changed the appearance of something I paid for, to something I would have never paid for, without warning (and don't say a post in a thread on a forum is warning, it isn't. Add to that the post was made AFTER I had already acquired the items), and thus should be reimbursed.

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01.08.2013 , 03:45 PM | #297
Quote: Originally Posted by Phylok View Post
so all those that bought the items for their look in the preview should be getting a refund for what was spent. Or will we get the older look as a different set? Your post does not answer all the questions.

Yeah, because them spending the necessary resources to figure out who bought what and how much they spent is the absolute best way for them to prioritize their time. The sets came out bugged, people complained, Bioware stated that they would be fixed and now they are.

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01.08.2013 , 03:47 PM | #298
Quote: Originally Posted by JovethGonzalez View Post
All right folks, I talked to our developers and got some clarification:
  • The Revan outfit was adjusted to look more like Revan’s armor in the game.
  • The Spymaster and the Phantom outfits were both adjusted to look more like their advertised appearance in the Cartel Market, after we received more than a few remarks about this dissimilarity. This is to ensure that customers receive the advertised appearance.
    [*]Currently, the Stylish Dancer’s outfit is advertised as being white, but it should be red, as it appears when you preview the item. This will be adjusted for a future patch.
We apologize for any inconvenience. In the future, we will ensure that all assets are in alignment on the Cartel Market. The final products are meant to look like the advertised art.
Umm.. the Stylish Dancer outfit is white. Preview as white and is part of the Blockade Runner's Pack. The problem is that the Stylish Dancer's outfit is being shown as part of the Skip Tracer's pack when it's the Red Fancy Revealer's outfit, which has an entirely different hat, that is the new female only (Yet again another skimpy female only outfit offered up with no male only equivalent) in the Skip Tracer's Pack. Again it's not a problem with the Stylish Dancer picture being the wrong color, but the wrong outfit entirely being shown.
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01.08.2013 , 03:48 PM | #299
Quote: Originally Posted by JovethGonzalez
In the future, we will ensure that all assets are in alignment on the Cartel Market. The final products are meant to look like the advertised art.
Maybe I am wrong here, but none of the Pet Droids shown in the art for Skip Tracer Packs are actually available from the Skip Tracer Packs. They were all introduced in the Blockade Runner Packs, right? Does this mean all of the ugly Womp Weasel will be redrawn in the next patch?

RE the Armor changes: I empathize with those who spent credits or cartel coins to get the look they wanted; however, in BW's defense this has been on the Known Issues List. Still, it seems like there has to be a good solution for all.
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01.08.2013 , 03:49 PM | #300
I want to know as well, it wasn't advertised anywhere as looking anything but what it looked like in-game, this change seems random and pointless
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