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Might set bonus - Stormcaller/Firebrand shields are killed by guild ship support

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Might set bonus - Stormcaller/Firebrand shields are killed by guild ship support

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fire-breath
04.26.2019 , 01:52 PM | #1
As the title is saying.
The set bonus from the guildship perks is kinda not that handy when you have shieldgenerator that isn't allowed to take hits.

Not sure how to fix this one.
I guess you could make the set bonus a toggle so that we can deactivate it when needed?
I expect that Kephess would be a bit of an issue as well (with the trenchgutter purple shield).
Calph in dread council a bit less as people can just be a bit more careful.

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Chryptyk
04.27.2019 , 09:23 AM | #2
you could change a guild perk, or remove it while you're doing that op.

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fire-breath
04.28.2019 , 11:29 AM | #3
Don't think that's a good workaround.
For one, only the guildmaster can do so. Don't think he would be inclined to do this for every pugrun.

So yeah .... there needs to be fix coming from bioware on this one.
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Chryptyk
04.28.2019 , 11:31 AM | #4
permissions can be changed so other ranks can change guild perks. when my guild discovered this problem, we just stopped using might bonus.

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GhOsTPrOz
04.29.2019 , 07:09 AM | #5
It's a problem for sure, it could also be a problem anywhere you would need to hold dps like council for example. Maybe even sword squadron, however I don't think it's something Bioware has to worry about really as there is two options to fix it.

1 don't use this perk.
2 anticipate this perk and plan accordingly (knock adds out on firebrand and storm caller) stop at 55 on dread masters in council to leave area for error etc.

Personally I find it a cool perk but more trouble then it's worth
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Darevsool
04.30.2019 , 01:54 PM | #6
Does it cause a bug that makes it impossible to kill those bosses?

Or does the extra/bonus attack just not do any damage?
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05.01.2019 , 11:05 AM | #7
The bug doesn't perse make it impossible to complete EC. However, it makes it much much harder.

Essentially what happens is that when you deal or take damage you have small chance at your guildship bombarding a large area (similar size and visuals as a snipers flyby attack).

If this bombardment happens it damages the shield generator from Firebrand and Stormcaller. In our 3 attempts, it killed shields 100% of the time. If the shield generator gets destroyed everyone will take the heavy aoe attacks from firebrand who is shooting mortars.

You can't prevent the bombardment from happening. Only possible ways are to:
1 - not use the guildbonus (which must be done by leadership)
2 - push the adds away very far (radius of the attack is very large)
Alternativly you can bring good healers who can heal through the bombardement. But that shouldn't be needed in a HM/VM operation like EC.


Secondly, I am afraid that the bonus will also proc on trenchgutters. If you damage those while the warrior carries a shield you will take massive damage.
Workaround is to have the tank taunt the warrior away. So less of an issue.
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GhOsTPrOz
05.02.2019 , 04:36 PM | #8
It isn't a bug and you should all stop referring to it as such.

It only works on SM and HM and any HM raid it might effect you have to ask yourself....does it matter? Won't get you killed on any of the harder HMs like TOS RaV and Gods any inconvenience it causes can be handled either via

1: deal with it
2: don't use this perk

Really simple. Not a bug, not biowares fault (for once)
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ultimarb
05.03.2019 , 01:09 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by GhOsTPrOz View Post
It isn't a bug and you should all stop referring to it as such.

It only works on SM and HM and any HM raid it might effect you have to ask yourself....does it matter? Won't get you killed on any of the harder HMs like TOS RaV and Gods any inconvenience it causes can be handled either via

1: deal with it
2: don't use this perk

Really simple. Not a bug, not biowares fault (for once)
It isn't a bug but it's broken by design. So this needs to be adressed and all the other issues with those perks too. Faster reg in ranked and mm timeruns etc. this list is so long you should take a look in the thread in generalforum.
80% of those perks are useless. 10% broken and the other 10% are useful.


There need to be a conversation with the community(which has some great ideas for those perks, which are balanced)
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05.03.2019 , 07:01 AM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by ultimarb View Post
It isn't a bug but it's broken by design. So this needs to be adressed and all the other issues with those perks too. Faster reg in ranked and mm timeruns etc. this list is so long you should take a look in the thread in generalforum.
80% of those perks are useless. 10% broken and the other 10% are useful.


There need to be a conversation with the community(which has some great ideas for those perks, which are balanced)

No, I really don't see an issue here. They aren't broken by design and they don't work in PVP or Nightmare it says so.
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