Mamono Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 What where BioWare and AE thinking about? Did they have no precausjon to make the release as good as possible? Have they not learned anything from other MMO’s and what they did wrong? Lets see…. No grace timer on DC’s. If you end up DC’ing you end up at the wery end of the queue. Sucks to be you then :s No character transfer system in the game from release. They KNEW that there would be queues, so why have they not made this an option? Every freaking MMO game in the world has some form for queue problem. BioWare should have known this from the beginning. Queue problem. In early access we got a look in how they handled the queue. They could not handle it. I was complaining about it but ½ of the people were saying, stop whining, at lunch they will open all the servers for max population. The queue will be acceptable then. Right, we see how well that went. If BioWare even had an idea about what queues other MMO’s have been through, they did a terrible job of trying to prevent it on their MMO. Then there is the player support. Still no e-mail support when it comes to account problems. You just get an automatically mail saying that you have to call the support or not get any help at all. Still no toll free phone to others then UK, France and Germany so the cost of that call my be quite a surprise do to extreme phone queue time. Then you have the in game stuff like UI etc etc. They have tried to go their own way, but by doing so they have made things bad. A fresh person coming into the world of MMO would probably accept it as it is, but most of the players are experienced MMO players. They WILL bring with them experience and ideas from other games and compare SWToR against that game. BioWare trying to invent the wheel again, but not by improving it, but by making it square. It works, but by god it is a bad ride. BioWare do have a team working on the UI now, but what have they done up to now? Extended summerholyday? Forum: The forum is working on ½ machine. Should have been up and running from day 1 in release. A few days ago I said all this will happen but people keept saying. Wait to release and everything will straighten out. You are playing early access, whitch is the same as an Beta, abig patch will be done on release so many of the bugs and problems in the game will be gone. Where is that dame patch? I can’t see any….. So in basic. Early access game is the same game as release game. BioWare, /boot to the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razvaa Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 (edited) What where BioWare and AE thinking about? Did they have no precausjon to make the release as good as possible? Have they not learned anything from other MMO’s and what they did wrong? Lets see…. No grace timer on DC’s. If you end up DC’ing you end up at the wery end of the queue. Sucks to be you then :s No character transfer system in the game from release. They KNEW that there would be queues, so why have they not made this an option? Every freaking MMO game in the world has some form for queue problem. BioWare should have known this from the beginning. Queue problem. In early access we got a look in how they handled the queue. They could not handle it. I was complaining about it but ½ of the people were saying, stop whining, at lunch they will open all the servers for max population. The queue will be acceptable then. Right, we see how well that went. If BioWare even had an idea about what queues other MMO’s have been through, they did a terrible job of trying to prevent it on their MMO. Then there is the player support. Still no e-mail support when it comes to account problems. You just get an automatically mail saying that you have to call the support or not get any help at all. Still no toll free phone to others then UK, France and Germany so the cost of that call my be quite a surprise do to extreme phone queue time. Then you have the in game stuff like UI etc etc. They have tried to go their own way, but by doing so they have made things bad. A fresh person coming into the world of MMO would probably accept it as it is, but most of the players are experienced MMO players. They WILL bring with them experience and ideas from other games and compare SWToR against that game. BioWare trying to invent the wheel again, but not by improving it, but by making it square. It works, but by god it is a bad ride. BioWare do have a team working on the UI now, but what have they done up to now? Extended summerholyday? Forum: The forum is working on ½ machine. Should have been up and running from day 1 in release. A few days ago I said all this will happen but people keept saying. Wait to release and everything will straighten out. You are playing early access, whitch is the same as an Beta, abig patch will be done on release so many of the bugs and problems in the game will be gone. Where is that dame patch? I can’t see any….. So in basic. Early access game is the same game as release game. BioWare, /boot to the head. +1 atm there is like 0% chance to suscribe for this game, im still undecided if i wanna put my redeem code now or wait for awhile and use it when the game is getting polished Edited December 20, 2011 by Razvaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerda Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 (edited) I do understand the points you've made (and agree with many of them) but I don't think it's any better or any worse than other MMO launches. But tha'ts just my opinion. I do however find their Customer Service appalling. Edited December 20, 2011 by Xerda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jalden Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 This is one of the best releses in modern times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiaSinblade Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 I'm pretty sure AE is relatively happy with the massive amount of people clogging up the servers. Yup. AE likes that. WB, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aros-aoc Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 +1. Baaaaad Baaaad Bioware. Loved your Dragon Age Serier but this is senseless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainotna Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 (edited) Age of Conan was worse by far. This is one of the best releases I've experienced. Queue times are the only serious issue, but once you're playing it's epic. Edit: Because my response implied that I thought this release was bad. Edited December 20, 2011 by Ainotna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavesTheName Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 My friends and I have been playing since before 9am (UK time) with no server queues, no lag, just 100% fun. I must disagree entirely with the OP. I was on a heavily populated server during the early access, called Legions of Lettow. I tried to log in one day and there was a 2 and a half hour queue so I switched to a light pop server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skrill Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Lol....people have no idea what a bad MMO release really is.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truuth Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Age of Conan was worse. So was anarachy online. ... also made by funcom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cormey Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Lol....people have no idea what a bad MMO release really is.... ^This, i can only assume that this is the ONLY MMO release the OP has been around for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toweleeeie Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Cant.... take.... serious... so.... many.... spelling errors.... tl dr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luhar Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Excellent! Two less whiners in the game... But seriously, this is FAR from the "worst release in modern MMO time". The other MMO that this is being compared to--the one with the initials W. O. W.--Had a rough start as well. And the worst release in modern MMO time is obviously FFXIV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artemis-X- Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 some people really need to witness a few more MMO releases. this is a dream launch compared to many smaller studio releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmeat_one Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Not getting disconnects. Been in queue only once for 20 minutes. Have no need for support. Enjoyed leveling to 35 so far very much. Something wrong with me I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakkeb Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 No grace timer for DCs. Ummm... almost no games do this. If your game drops and you reload, guess wha, it's a new instance of the game. No transfer system. Yeah, no games have this upon release since they companies tend to be more concerned with trivial things like server stability, bug fixes, load balancing.... Queue problems. Normal. This allows companies to better load balance based on the trending of how many people are playing, and what play style they lean towards. This has been addressed by Bioware already on why they are doing things the way they are. No player support. There is player support. Yes, it is slow. But considering they are launching a brand new game, is it really a surprise that support would be slow at this point? No. Choosing to play pre-release means you accept the minor inconveniences. UI/misc. Changes like this come along once things have become more stable. Most people can live with the defaults while the companies make things better and more stable. These are perks. Not necessities. The game works just fine as is. Forum. It's a forum. It has been working since Alpha. Release vs early access. Unless you're truly blind, the game is MUCH better than it was. Many bugs have been fixed. Many problems/complaints have been either addressed or fixed. You either live with it, or don't play. Simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artemis-X- Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Not getting disconnects. Been in queue only once for 20 minutes. Have no need for support. Enjoyed leveling to 35 so far very much. Something wrong with me I guess. similar - no queues, no need for support, one brief bug (taris lag) 20odd levels of fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcerberus Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 A few days ago I said all this will happen but people keept saying. Wait to release and everything will straighten out. You are playing early access, whitch is the same as an Beta, abig patch will be done on release so many of the bugs and problems in the game will be gone. Where is that dame patch? I can’t see any….. did you really believe what the apologetic fanbois and brown nosers were saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogus Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 I was complaining about it but ½ of the people were saying, stop whining, at lunch they will open all the servers for max population. The queue will be acceptable then. Its not even "lunch" yet...geez some people are so cranky before they eat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atredes Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 (edited) You can tell how perfect this launch is by the fact that people do NOT complain about crashing servers, buggy quests, un-polished content... the only complain is... "let me get in there to play now... i cant wait...." For me... best launch in history. Edited December 20, 2011 by Atredes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesleDarksyde Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 What where BioWare and AE thinking about? Best launch in MMO history. You've never been part of one... This one has been the best so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pineapplemang Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Final Fantasy 14 Online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanosliger Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 LMAO like WoW never had any queues LMAO I can't get onto my guild server and still haven't so I switched servers, quite happy now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimben Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Lol....people have no idea what a bad MMO release really is.... Darkfail. 'nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aros-aoc Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 LMAO like WoW never had any queues LMAO I can't get onto my guild server and still haven't so I switched servers, quite happy now Enjoy playing alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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