This has been happening since S10 Started (when all the matchmaking systems got changed).

Just now, the Star Forge server went for about an hour with no solo ranked pop, when we knew there were more than enough people in the queue. Finally, when a pop happened, it spawned 2 matches and even then there were people who didn't get a pop, indicating that the were plenty of people in queue.

This is not just an isolated event. It happens on a nightly basis, in the middle of prime time. Something is causing the system to get caught up and not pop a match for large delays at a time. Again, this only started after the matchmaking changes when S9 ended / S10 started.

Devs, if you could check and/or put some debugging on the system that could determine why this is happening. The ranked scene is already rather small, and this is causing more people to stop playing. When people assume that there's not enough people to make a game, they just log off and stop playing.

This has been happening since S10 Started (when all the matchmaking systems got changed).

 

Just now, the Star Forge server went for about an hour with no solo ranked pop, when we knew there were more than enough people in the queue. Finally, when a pop happened, it spawned 2 matches and even then there were people who didn't get a pop, indicating that the were plenty of people in queue.

 

This is not just an isolated event. It happens on a nightly basis, in the middle of prime time. Something is causing the system to get caught up and not pop a match for large delays at a time. Again, this only started after the matchmaking changes when S9 ended / S10 started.

 

Devs, if you could check and/or put some debugging on the system that could determine why this is happening. The ranked scene is already rather small, and this is causing more people to stop playing. When people assume that there's not enough people to make a game, they just log off and stop playing.

This is definitely a real phenomenon. The queue just randomly stops popping even with enough people in queue as Rogean describes. I'm glad you brought this up so the devs might look into it.

This has been happening since S10 Started (when all the matchmaking systems got changed).

 

Just now, the Star Forge server went for about an hour with no solo ranked pop, when we knew there were more than enough people in the queue. Finally, when a pop happened, it spawned 2 matches and even then there were people who didn't get a pop, indicating that the were plenty of people in queue.

 

This is not just an isolated event. It happens on a nightly basis, in the middle of prime time. Something is causing the system to get caught up and not pop a match for large delays at a time. Again, this only started after the matchmaking changes when S9 ended / S10 started.

 

Devs, if you could check and/or put some debugging on the system that could determine why this is happening. The ranked scene is already rather small, and this is causing more people to stop playing. When people assume that there's not enough people to make a game, they just log off and stop playing.

I can even tell you why this ia happening. Not only new elo matchmaking system punishes highrated players by throwing them into teams with worst players in the queue, this system also makes sure that highrated players wont get a pop in the game where there is no other highrated player or at least middle-rated player in the queue to put them against each other. So if for example there are in queue 8 guys where 7 are 1000-1400 rated and last guy is 1650+ - it WONT POP UNTIL: 1) someone else with 800-1300 elo joins the queue so that 1000-1400 guys will get a pop against each other and highrated guy will be skipped or 2) someone with 1500+ joins the queue so that a 1650 guy gets a pop with 1000 rated noobs against 1500+ player and 1400 players in one team.

Literally this system wont even start a match until it see proper elo players are in queue to put them in different matches if possible due to queued players (thats why you often get 2 pops in the same time for 2 matches) or make one pop and skipping highrated guys since there is no other players with at least close elo to them to make a fight.

Thats why seasons 9 was much better since it didnt took elo into consideration for matchmaking. Or at least online was much better

if this is real it's an awful bug. one would assume it's probably related to the way cross faction works or the new team building

does anyone who isn't a sperg poster just making things up as they write their posts know if it can happen with all dps games? or are support roles always present?

this system also makes sure that highrated players wont get a pop in the game where there is no other highrated player or at least middle-rated player in the queue to put them against each other.

• it has always been like this
  
• it will pop after waiting long enough
  
• lopsided games are bad so the fact it works this way is actually good anyway
  

does anyone who isn't a sperg poster just making things up as they write their posts know if it can happen with all dps games? or are support roles always present?

I don't know. What usually happens is there are pops going every few minutes, with say 12-16 people queueing, so there are different people rotating into these games. Then all of the sudden queues stop dead for about an hour, in prime time. And then you have 10 people talking in fleet chat about how they're still in queue. To be clear though, I don't think this happens nightly. I've noticed it happen about a dozen times over the last few months.

The first few times this happened, I assumed it must be that a bunch of people just all of the sudden logged out, but it has happened enough times that I'm quite sure the queue gets bugged sometimes. I'm fairly certain it has nothing to do with either tanks/healers or matching high rated players, because those kinds of delays are normal. But who knows.

• lopsided games are bad so the fact it works this way is actually good anyway
  

I completely agree. Omaan preferred the old system where high rated players frequently got stacked on the same team. Now that teams are actually made as fairly as possible, he feels that high rated players are being "punished." I've explained to him numerous times in other threads how ludicrous his opinion is on this topic, but he still persists.

Devs, if you could check and/or put some debugging on the system that could determine why this is happening. The ranked scene is already rather small, and this is causing more people to stop playing. When people assume that there's not enough people to make a game, they just log off and stop playing.

Wait you really think they will fix this? This is not cartel market related issue so they will never fix it, also they know pvp and ranked community getting smaller and instead of looking for actual fixes they are using band aid solutions to move more casual players into ranked system with putting some expensive crafting mats and crystals. Sadly this game doesnt have a developer team to care about custumer satisfactory and it is a big issue all BW games lately. You can see same in ME:Andromeda and even worse on Anthem. Once loved company BW now even more evil than it's parent company. Aslong as they get your money they are ok less effort for money is the best.

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I completely agree. Omaan preferred the old system where high rated players frequently got stacked on the same team. Now that teams are actually made as fairly as possible, he feels that high rated players are being "punished." I've explained to him numerous times in other threads how ludicrous his opinion is on this topic, but he still persists.

And i told you tonnes of times that it is current system which makes lopsided fights since highrated players are always stucked with garbage players and arent able to get to highest spots with their skill as it was before. At least in the past it was random and both skilled, highrated and lowrated players had all chances to climb up with time either they had luck or no because all they needed is their skill. Now having skill isnt enough since system creates lopsided fights in favor of middle rated and lowrated players by throwing highrated players into garbage teams.

Thats why ranked population is dying, thats why almost all top 3 players are wintrading, thats why soon you wont get any pops at all because all players will quit pvp in this unfair game.

Enjoy your 1 hours queue time while it lasts. Soon even sf and dm will die

And i told you tonnes of times that it is current system which makes lopsided fights since highrated players are always stucked with garbage players and arent able to get to highest spots with their skill as it was before. At least in the past it was random and both skilled, highrated and lowrated players had all chances to climb up with time either they had luck or no because all they needed is their skill. Now having skill isnt enough since system creates lopsided fights in favor of middle rated and lowrated players by throwing highrated players into garbage teams.

 

Thats why ranked population is dying, thats why almost all top 3 players are wintrading, thats why soon you wont get any pops at all because all players will quit pvp in this unfair game.

 

Enjoy your 1 hours queue time while it lasts. Soon even sf and dm will die

I understand your point, but I think in the past it was worse than it is now. You had high rated players stacked into the same team vs low rated hopefuls who got smashed to pieces all the time. I had times where I was in que and I knew who was queing and I got into teams of low rated vs all 4 top gold players and it happened on many occasions. You could easily predict by looking on your friend list what teams the game will make..

In this current system it kinda tries to balance things out.

The only time when matchmaking was totally random and only heals tanks where taken into consideration when forming teams was in pre season. Those were really good matches. I'm not saying this current system is perfect but it's the lesser evil out of the 2. I noticed that when you get around 1400, you start getting trash teams. Even arouind 1300+ it starts happening and then your elo slowly erodes away.

Honestly, there is no fix... The only fix would be a larger player pool, but as things are now that is not very likely to happen. Bioware needs to find some good ways of making people que ranked, but sadly ranked players are very hostiles to newbies which after a while could end up good, but..

I'm fairly certain it has nothing to do with either tanks/healers or matching high rated players, because those kinds of delays are normal. But who knows.

I completely agree. Omaan preferred the old system where high rated players frequently got stacked on the same team. Now that teams are actually made as fairly as possible, he feels that high rated players are being "punished." I've explained to him numerous times in other threads how ludicrous his opinion is on this topic, but he still persists.

he was specifically complaining that being higher rated can lead to getting skipped. like I said, this has always been a thing and it's always been a necessary nuisance.

I agree. As a high rated player queueing right now, I've gotten skipped by the last three pops, which can be annoying. But ultimately, fair matches are more important than my annoyance. I'll get a pop eventually.

Theoretically it’s possible that so many people of higher rating have left or the changes with having less people at higher ELO is affecting the higher ELO players the most.

To me, that would indicate the problem is population and also how some people have had a harder time getting their ELO up higher this season. I guess those wintraders might have actually helped the pops last season and with less of them doing it, it has decreased some of the pops. Which just seems sad how ever you look at it.

So, you have more noobs playing ranked and keeping a lot of people’s ELO low, while others have been a bit luckier and were able to get their ELO up. Now they have less people on at the same time with similar ELO.

I dont know how you fix a system that is working as intended. It’s obviously still working like it’s supposed too and not putting all lower ELO’s against a high ELO.

This has been happening since S10 Started (when all the matchmaking systems got changed).

 

Just now, the Star Forge server went for about an hour with no solo ranked pop, when we knew there were more than enough people in the queue. Finally, when a pop happened, it spawned 2 matches and even then there were people who didn't get a pop, indicating that the were plenty of people in queue.

 

This is not just an isolated event. It happens on a nightly basis, in the middle of prime time. Something is causing the system to get caught up and not pop a match for large delays at a time. Again, this only started after the matchmaking changes when S9 ended / S10 started.

 

Devs, if you could check and/or put some debugging on the system that could determine why this is happening. The ranked scene is already rather small, and this is causing more people to stop playing. When people assume that there's not enough people to make a game, they just log off and stop playing.

I can 100% confirm this happens on DM (euro) server alot too. Not DAILY but atleast 4-5times/week during prime typically about 7pm GMT at DM server. At it can last up to 1 hour which is really demoralizing when you just wanna grind sr.. do your dailys etc. You know theres more then enough people in que but just sit there 1 hour doing nothing. (then it pops after 50mins and you get a impossible matchmaking game but thats just a bonus:D)

I understand your point, but I think in the past it was worse than it is now. You had high rated players stacked into the same team vs low rated hopefuls who got smashed to pieces all the time. I had times where I was in que and I knew who was queing and I got into teams of low rated vs all 4 top gold players and it happened on many occasions. You could easily predict by looking on your friend list what teams the game will make..

 

In this current system it kinda tries to balance things out.

 

The only time when matchmaking was totally random and only heals tanks where taken into consideration when forming teams was in pre season. Those were really good matches. I'm not saying this current system is perfect but it's the lesser evil out of the 2. I noticed that when you get around 1400, you start getting trash teams. Even arouind 1300+ it starts happening and then your elo slowly erodes away.

 

Honestly, there is no fix... The only fix would be a larger player pool, but as things are now that is not very likely to happen. Bioware needs to find some good ways of making people que ranked, but sadly ranked players are very hostiles to newbies which after a while could end up good, but..

I also had many unlucky fights on low elo yet with my skill growing - my elo was growing with it. Even with bad luck fights the more i played the more my elo and skill were growing and greater number of games played outnumbered unlucky fights. I stopped at 2100 on one char and 2200 on other in the end of season 9 and was happy to have played so many now. And whats now in season? I played one of my chars to top 1 at the begining of the season, dodged skilled players with middle rating so that my char would not matched with total noobs in my team against these skilled middle-rated guys and then didnt log in swtor for 4 months and still top 1. Yaaay, how interesting....watching on streams how really skilled players with high elo are matched with total f***ots against 3 middle rated mercs because they missed first 2 weeks of fair queue is cool. Until they quit swtor in few weeks of loosing due to such great matchmaking and start lvling death knights or hunters in wow

I also had many unlucky fights on low elo yet with my skill growing - my elo was growing with it. Even with bad luck fights the more i played the more my elo and skill were growing and greater number of games played outnumbered unlucky fights. I stopped at 2100 on one char and 2200 on other in the end of season 9 and was happy to have played so many now. And whats now in season? I played one of my chars to top 1 at the begining of the season, dodged skilled players with middle rating so that my char would not matched with total noobs in my team against these skilled middle-rated guys and then didnt log in swtor for 4 months and still top 1. Yaaay, how interesting....watching on streams how really skilled players with high elo are matched with total f***ots against 3 middle rated mercs because they missed first 2 weeks of fair queue is cool. Until they quit swtor in few weeks of loosing due to such great matchmaking and start lvling death knights or hunters in wow

This is all an excellent argument in favor of adding rating decay and a minimum number of games to qualify for rewards.

This has been happening since S10 Started (when all the matchmaking systems got changed).

 

Just now, the Star Forge server went for about an hour with no solo ranked pop, when we knew there were more than enough people in the queue. Finally, when a pop happened, it spawned 2 matches and even then there were people who didn't get a pop, indicating that the were plenty of people in queue.

 

This is not just an isolated event. It happens on a nightly basis, in the middle of prime time. Something is causing the system to get caught up and not pop a match for large delays at a time. Again, this only started after the matchmaking changes when S9 ended / S10 started.

 

Devs, if you could check and/or put some debugging on the system that could determine why this is happening. The ranked scene is already rather small, and this is causing more people to stop playing. When people assume that there's not enough people to make a game, they just log off and stop playing.

Dis true pls help^

there are lots of problems with this game, its not even worth to sub, it looks like some beta game from 90's.

Shadow teleport sling shot you on other side of warzones

Shadow combat movement bugs like you have broken leg

Ppl teleporting all over the place, especially on hutball arena

pvp balance is garbage

its like 2 hamsters are driving the servers

1 dev counting money instead of fixing real problems with this game

this game is going to die soon when ep9 stops playing in cinemas

time to fix this game or let it die or sell to some company who will fix this garbage atm.