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AlrikFassbauer
04.09.2013 , 03:44 PM | #441
And what about the 10-29 PvP ? What does the new Bolster do to that ?

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Arutar
04.09.2013 , 03:49 PM | #442
Quote: Originally Posted by Emencie View Post
And that's where the disconnect is.

In PvP you can get the progression mousewheel going and at first it looks great. But unlike those PvE players who rarely if ever go back to do their level 1 content. PvPers will regularly and often come face to face with players who are not to your level in PvP.

The main problem I'm learning is there are 2 different PvPers and it's hard to satisfy us both.
Well I would argue that there are also two kinds of PVE Players. Those who have access to high end ops groups and those who don`t.

Besides, it amazes me how much people in the forums claim that they think gear progression in pvp is dumb and they personally do not need this to have fun with the excact same pvp content for months, if not years.

But this is all besides the point, since this all revolves around bolster in lvl 55 (and the value of the lvl 55 pvp set compared to lvl 55 pve gear, or no gear at all), which - at least for time being - nobody knows much about.

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TheXiaChang
04.09.2013 , 03:50 PM | #443
I have worked in the software biz for over 30 years..This is NOT lazy, this is incompetence and most of all proof of a complete lack of consideration for your customers.. This is a clear example of programmers who never use or have no emotional attachment to their product.. The only answer to allowing a upgrade like this to go out after this much time "testing" is to fire the entire department and bring in some programmers who know what the hell they are doing..

Most people over look the fact that this was not a mistake made today, this design was conceived, discussed, charted, discussed, programmed, tested (I am guessing here), over months and this was their final product.. That tells me it was not a "Mistake", it is a clear example of complete indifference to how many hours your customers spend playing your game, with 100's of other choices out their and this being their first major upgrade.. If heads dont roll over this it will be clear indication that management is wanting to milk this for all the money they can get then let it fail and move on.

Quote: Originally Posted by niceguyy View Post
At least some people get it (only a few) but forums are usually 10% of player base anyways. I applaud the serious pvpers who have learned 2 adapt to this new bolster until they hit 55. I do want to recant one statement I made: PVP gear does still exist, the vendors are now on DK/Coruscant. As it stands lvl 40 pvp gear is better than 50 because WH/EWH is being phased out. However, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BOLSTER! It's making for very balanced pvp matches. The issue lies with WH/EWH not providing EQUAL stats to 49s in purple. Most of the players complaining are the ones who expected to 1 or 2 shot lowbies in pvp because they had BiS gear. So sad for them that skill actually matters now more than certain gear that was only obtainable to higher lvls. Boohoo QQ

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LanceCorporalDan
04.09.2013 , 03:51 PM | #444
Quote: Originally Posted by niceguyy View Post
At least some people get it (only a few) but forums are usually 10% of player base anyways. I applaud the serious pvpers who have learned 2 adapt to this new bolster until they hit 55. I do want to recant one statement I made: PVP gear does still exist, the vendors are now on DK/Coruscant. As it stands lvl 40 pvp gear is better than 50 because WH/EWH is being phased out. However, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BOLSTER! It's making for very balanced pvp matches. The issue lies with WH/EWH not providing EQUAL stats to 49s in purple. Most of the players complaining are the ones who expected to 1 or 2 shot lowbies in pvp because they had BiS gear. So sad for them that skill actually matters now more than certain gear that was only obtainable to higher lvls. Boohoo QQ
I don't have a problem with making PvP more skill based. I agree that skill should be the main factor with gear giving a slight edge over your opponent(s).

But when the gear that I worked on in past months in completely useless in PvP, then there is a problem.
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RodneyMcNeely
04.09.2013 , 03:52 PM | #445
Quote: Originally Posted by Aumeer View Post
I pvp naked. It works well. Something is broken.
Seriously. I went in on my Kinetic Combat Shadow with nothing but a lightsaber and a shield.

And I had over 28K health.

And wrecked face.

Bolster is SOOO broken...

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Arutar
04.09.2013 , 03:53 PM | #446
Quote: Originally Posted by niceguyy View Post
I applaud the serious pvpers who have learned 2 adapt to this new bolster until they hit 55.
So you *applaud* people who pvp naked?

Wow, some people never cease to amaze.

I mean, you obviously did manage to get out of the bed this morning as well which is at least as difficult as removing your gear and still, you get no applause from me.

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L-RANDLE
04.09.2013 , 03:55 PM | #447
Quote: Originally Posted by niceguyy View Post
At least some people get it (only a few) but forums are usually 10% of player base anyways. I applaud the serious pvpers who have learned 2 adapt to this new bolster until they hit 55. I do want to recant one statement I made: PVP gear does still exist, the vendors are now on DK/Coruscant. As it stands lvl 40 pvp gear is better than 50 because WH/EWH is being phased out. However, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BOLSTER! It's making for very balanced pvp matches. The issue lies with WH/EWH not providing EQUAL stats to 49s in purple. Most of the players complaining are the ones who expected to 1 or 2 shot lowbies in pvp because they had BiS gear. So sad for them that skill actually matters now more than certain gear that was only obtainable to higher lvls. Boohoo QQ
So what is the point of PVP gear @ 55 when is bolster is this way? Its pretty obvious its not just a "lowbie thing". They said multiple times that bolster would be virtually identical @55. So then what would stop a ARK gear PVE playr from coming in and getting a 2K EXP bolster with MAIN/END North of 2.5K? For the looks?

I didn't want to one shot lowbies.. look at my previous discussion with Rob after the first round of PTS notes were launched.

The facts are: they made bolster too strong, after initially making it too weak.

It needs to be fixed...
PvP Gear Viability? Read this first.
Tired of being broke? Stop being Felica and read this.
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Lasica
04.09.2013 , 03:56 PM | #448
Quote: Originally Posted by RodneyMcNeely View Post
Seriously. I went in on my Kinetic Combat Shadow with nothing but a lightsaber and a shield.

And I had over 28K health.

And wrecked face.

Bolster is SOOO broken...
Yes did this myself, had 28,900K life and 58.5% pvp damage boost.

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Azarai
04.09.2013 , 03:56 PM | #449
I consider myself a pretty good concealment op but skill has nothing to do with it when I get hits like this... CONSTANTLY

http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/a...psc9f61031.jpg 8700 hidden strike followed by 7400 backstab

This is just a little too over the top, even for somebody who plays a class that has been nerfed since the beginning of the game.

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Caeliux
04.09.2013 , 04:12 PM | #450
Quote: Originally Posted by Azarai View Post
I consider myself a pretty good concealment op but skill has nothing to do with it when I get hits like this... CONSTANTLY

http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/a...psc9f61031.jpg 8700 hidden strike followed by 7400 backstab

This is just a little too over the top, even for somebody who plays a class that has been nerfed since the beginning of the game.
Thats called burst damage, working as intended.
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