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6.0 Crafting is Ludicrously a complete and total piece of Junk

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6.0 Crafting is Ludicrously a complete and total piece of Junk

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phalczen
02.03.2020 , 06:38 PM | #231
Quote: Originally Posted by Jdast View Post
This is the first iteration of any MMORPG I've played where I spend exorbitant funds and hours on end, the side effect of which is I collect gobs of diamonds, for the purpose of creating a bunch of cubic zirconia -- all in the hopes of eventually making my own diamonds.

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And the diamonds you make aren't actually good quality. They have lots of inclusions, aren't brilliant white but instead have yellow discolorations, etc.
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Styrakhon
02.10.2020 , 04:42 PM | #232
Hi, I'm a player returning for Onslaught after two years absence... and I must say I don't like what I see with crafting.

Leveling to 75 is great as ever. I really liked Ossus and Onderon stories and enjoy Mek-Sha so far, but crafting... Bioware, what have you done...

Since I play SWTOR (the time they introduced Makeb) I play an hour or so per day... I mostly do dailys because I burned myself in WOW playing flashpoints and operations. I've had enough of this. So I play my main char and some toons, and I chose crafting skills so I could craft everything I need by myself and not rely on GTN. And it worked great... especially leveling alts was really cool when you could craft the gear you didn't find. My gear was not top tier, but it was enough for my playstyle of dailys and heroics.

Now I'm back and was happy to see crafting is now at 700, but the joy soon vaporized... the first trainer only sold me the 700 max skill level and some yellow schematics with incredients I've never seen before, mostly stuff from Operations. OK I said, seek a new one in Onderon. And this one had lots of schematics. But sadly, I cannot craft even a single new green item because Bioware thought it a good idea that now you need stuff for crafting you cannot get from salvaging or crew skill missions, mainly "Processed Isotope Stabilizer". I have ZERO of those.

Do I really need to run Master Flashpoints, operations or participate in PVP just to get crafting incredients for GREEN items? Listen, I don't need to craft rainbow colored super gear with laser shooting out of it, but simple green and blue gear crafting needs operations, PVP and Master Flashpoints? Really?? What kind of genius thought that would be a good idea?

I never cheated or abused game mechanisms to get credits, so I have about 10 million credits, shared over now 5 toons. I cannot afford buying a single material in GTN for 250000 credits.

If the Processed Isotope Stabilizers don't get removed for green and blue crafting, I fear my visit will be a short one... complete the story once, and wait for improvements.

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Soul_of_Flames
02.21.2020 , 03:52 PM | #233
I can't comprehend the thought that was put into crafting in 6.0. Completely throwaway stuff requires buckets of end-game mats that take hours to farm... and in the process of farming, the game literally drops gear that is better than the stuff you were going to craft.
There is no point in putting the effort into crafting now except for a handful of certain things, like stims, augments and augment kits. Everything else like mods, gear or weapons is completely pointless to bother with. It seems like it was literally designed to discourage people from crafting.

Why should I run 2 operations and a handful of flashpoints for mats, when I can just get the BiS stuff from that same content?

I always believed that crafting should be the only way to get the game's best gear. The mats for that gear would drop from end game content and would make there way to crafters so they can craft the gear for use. That makes much more sense than the two pronged system we have now (gear drops vs crafted gear). Because that way all aspects of the game are tied together. They could even add in a more robust crafting mechanic that allows for better results based off of the materials used.

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Sarova
02.21.2020 , 07:26 PM | #234
Quote: Originally Posted by Soul_of_Flames View Post
Why should I run 2 operations and a handful of flashpoints for mats, when I can just get the BiS stuff from that same content?
This is what makes 6.0 crafting farcical. The unique crafted only items are pointless. The only 6.0 items I craft are med pacs & stims for my various high level alts and the occasional purple augment if I find I have enough crafting items from solo conquest (which is maybe one a month). I really don't understand why stronghold crafted items - war supplies - were changed to require 6.0 components.
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Lhancelot
02.21.2020 , 08:10 PM | #235
Quote: Originally Posted by Sarova View Post
farcical
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bluroq
02.22.2020 , 03:05 AM | #236
Quote: Originally Posted by phalczen View Post
I think it is probably worth mentioning that at no point in the game's history has crafting allowed a person to make end game best in slot gear until Ossus.
that's not true you could RE end game gear mods, you could RE mods that you bought from vendors or the GTN. this had saved you a lot of time on all your alts. i think in 5.0 they have started with non RE-able mods. there's still the relic that is the disassemble loot button which became useless by then.

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Yeebo
02.22.2020 , 03:29 PM | #237
I think it's pretty obvious that they really don't want most players crafting 306 gear. While it's technically possible, it's far and away the worst way to get 306 stuff. Only PvP even gives it a run in the "man this is terrible" department. I have maxed out my two gathering skills, and gotten artificer up to about 640, but I have no intention of taking it any further. Even if I did, it would just be to see the number 700 sitting on my character sheet. I would never contemplate using it for anything but dye and color crystals.

I assume if and when the next tier of gear comes out, the current top tier will get adjusted to something more sane.

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Void_Singer
02.22.2020 , 10:36 PM | #238
Quote: Originally Posted by Yeebo View Post
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I assume if and when the next tier of gear comes out, the current top tier will get adjusted to something more sane.
I wouldn't put any money on that.... just take a look at pre ossus, or post ossus craftable gear... it's all still obscene

as it stands it would take more than a years worth of conquest mats to make a single set of gear at 306 by crafting it..... NOT including all the deconstruction to get the schematics.
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Styrakhon
02.23.2020 , 03:55 AM | #239
I could live with not being able to craft top 306 gear. But forcing people to PVP, conquest or master flashpoints just to craft green or blue stuff that is nowhere better than any trashmob could drop is really bad design.

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Lhancelot
02.23.2020 , 01:56 PM | #240
Quote: Originally Posted by Styrakhon View Post
I could live with not being able to craft top 306 gear. But forcing people to PVP, conquest or master flashpoints just to craft green or blue stuff that is nowhere better than any trashmob could drop is really bad design.
Just like you anyone with a working brain realizes how awful and inefficient crafting is now. Thing is they knew it before Onslaught dropped. Players reviewed it on PTS and wrote in great length how dumb crafting was.

They ignored all feedback regarding crafting until after they wrecked it.

Then we got the “we know it’s not perfect and we will be adjusting it later” spiel. It’s been adjusted once since then, btw. Still is garbage, the crafting is.

Piss poor management and total lack of communication as to why it was wrecked and what their goals are for crafting.

They don’t tell you their goals because then they’d be held accountable for what they said, so it’s better to make broad statements like “we will be working on it” instead of giving actual details as to what they want to improve in crafting etc.

GG.
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