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A month till Onslaught, and still no specific release date?

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A month till Onslaught, and still no specific release date?

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Rolodome
08.10.2019 , 11:31 PM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by TrixxieTriss View Post
What advertising? I’ve seen no formal advertising.

This is another thing that bugs me. They don’t advertise the game and we all wonder why it’s not as popular as some other games that do.
I meant the fact that they have announced it as being released in September might complicate things to do with it being under the wing of a publicly traded company and whatnot. Can't say more than that cause I don't know much about how it works, but I vaguely remember something about that in relation to Maxis, which is also a developer under EA. Something about how they have to be really careful about when and how they announce stuff, so they don't get in trouble for misleading shareholders. Saying the expansion will come out in September and then moving it to another month might fall under that kind of issue, not really sure. Kinda just speculating.

But yes, formal advertising, I've not seen it either. Just the announcement and a livestream or two.
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Nemmar
08.11.2019 , 03:59 AM | #42
OMG, will you people stop b****ing?

If it gets delayed, it gets delayed. Better that than a broken product. The team is working hard on delivering a good expansion. Stop the cynicism for a moment and give them a chance.
Also, don't act like every other mmo patch isn't buggy at launch and needs patching...

And stop saying how advertisement is needed. EA is the publisher and has obviously jumped off this ship already cause they didn't even bother to show it at E3. It's only Bioware here now, and best you can expect is the same online advertisement done for Jedi under siege. Interviews, article and you saying the game is worthwhile (word of mouth) is the advertisement this game will have. At least until that can get EA's attention, wich might be bad in it's own way too.

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Celise
08.11.2019 , 05:10 AM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by Nemmar View Post
OMG, will you people stop b****ing?

If it gets delayed, it gets delayed. Better that than a broken product. The team is working hard on delivering a good expansion. Stop the cynicism for a moment and give them a chance.
Also, don't act like every other mmo patch isn't buggy at launch and needs patching...

And stop saying how advertisement is needed. EA is the publisher and has obviously jumped off this ship already cause they didn't even bother to show it at E3. It's only Bioware here now, and best you can expect is the same online advertisement done for Jedi under siege. Interviews, article and yous saying the game is worthwhile (word of mouth) is the advertisement this game will have. At least until that can get EA's attention, wich might be bad in it's own way too.
Bioware is EA, there is no distinction beyond the logo. So when you are saying there is nothing coming from EA, you aren't being honest. EA is still very much supporting this game and still develops it.

The annonucement itself was an advertisement to let the world know that the expansion is on its way, then there has been a livestream through twitch that show cases what is coming up which is also an advertisement for the expansion and this game, the same with the Onderon developer blog recently to show case that out as well. You can expect the same for Mek-Sha and the Corellia flashpoint, details on characters, any short stories and the like, all if it is a showcase the expansion as an advertisement. It is designed to make you want to get at it because it is all new fresh and exciting.

So i completely disagree with everything you have said.

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FlameYOL
08.11.2019 , 08:03 AM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by Nemmar View Post
OMG, will you people stop b****ing?
Its the SWTOR forums. The answer is "No". B****ing is intrinsic to this place.
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sdom
08.11.2019 , 08:11 AM | #45
Nemmar has a point.
We're getting a new expansion and all I can see is negativity.

I'm also worried about things going wrong, becoming unbalanced etc.

The fact of the matter is though, I have to take everything I hear with a pinch of salt since nobody has actually seen the finished product.
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Rolodome
08.11.2019 , 02:49 PM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by Nemmar View Post
OMG, will you people stop b****ing?

If it gets delayed, it gets delayed. Better that than a broken product. The team is working hard on delivering a good expansion. Stop the cynicism for a moment and give them a chance.
Also, don't act like every other mmo patch isn't buggy at launch and needs patching...

And stop saying how advertisement is needed. EA is the publisher and has obviously jumped off this ship already cause they didn't even bother to show it at E3. It's only Bioware here now, and best you can expect is the same online advertisement done for Jedi under siege. Interviews, article and yous saying the game is worthwhile (word of mouth) is the advertisement this game will have. At least until that can get EA's attention, wich might be bad in it's own way too.
I've played multiple MMORPGs pretty extensively over the years. None can I recall coming close to how buggy and messy SWTOR is on patches. I remember having issues sometimes with major updates for Rift where guildies and I would be waiting around for what seemed like hours for the server to come back up and everything to be working and ready. With GW2, I don't remember much in the way of delays or major bugs at all. With SWTOR, along with the times I've been around to see it, going by how things have been with updates of the past, this game is embarrassingly consistent in how messy and broken patches are, and how long it takes to fix them. And it's not a matter of hours, it's a matter of days or weeks.

I mean just recently we had the issue with the conquest XP change. Something like a month's worth of patching and delays, including a week full of ability lag during double XP, just to implement a change where XP gives you CXP. To act like the levels of buggy and broken they have here is normal just makes me think you have no experience with other MMORPGs.

Honestly, part of the problem with this game is even when something does get delayed, that doesn't necessarily mean it's going to work great. The conquest XP change was delayed and it still caused major problems when implemented. I take no pleasure in pointing this stuff out. I can feel empathy and it hurts to imagine people working hard on this game, only to see it be an absolute mess when it reaches the player. It's also just a pain to deal with as a player. But I won't lie and pretend like it's all fine. This is one of those weird cases where so-called "cynicism" is just being realistic. We've given them chances. An immeasurable number of chances. And they botch it more than they get it right.
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TrixxieTriss
08.11.2019 , 09:14 PM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by FlameYOL View Post
Its the SWTOR forums. The answer is "No". B****ing is intrinsic to this place.
I’ll go even further and say it’s often essential for a robust discussion on this forum

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TrixxieTriss
08.11.2019 , 09:21 PM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by Rolodome View Post
I've played multiple MMORPGs pretty extensively over the years. None can I recall coming close to how buggy and messy SWTOR is on patches. I remember having issues sometimes with major updates for Rift where guildies and I would be waiting around for what seemed like hours for the server to come back up and everything to be working and ready. With GW2, I don't remember much in the way of delays or major bugs at all. With SWTOR, along with the times I've been around to see it, going by how things have been with updates of the past, this game is embarrassingly consistent in how messy and broken patches are, and how long it takes to fix them. And it's not a matter of hours, it's a matter of days or weeks.

I mean just recently we had the issue with the conquest XP change. Something like a month's worth of patching and delays, including a week full of ability lag during double XP, just to implement a change where XP gives you CXP. To act like the levels of buggy and broken they have here is normal just makes me think you have no experience with other MMORPGs.

Honestly, part of the problem with this game is even when something does get delayed, that doesn't necessarily mean it's going to work great. The conquest XP change was delayed and it still caused major problems when implemented. I take no pleasure in pointing this stuff out. I can feel empathy and it hurts to imagine people working hard on this game, only to see it be an absolute mess when it reaches the player. It's also just a pain to deal with as a player. But I won't lie and pretend like it's all fine. This is one of those weird cases where so-called "cynicism" is just being realistic. We've given them chances. An immeasurable number of chances. And they botch it more than they get it right.
Sad, but true. I also take no pleasure in pointing out these issues. I know the guys work hard to do the best they can in the time frame and resources they get. I would like nothing more than to be able to White Knight the hell out of these guys and the game. But like you said, it isn’t cynicism discussing what happens, it’s more a dose of realism and being prepared so you don’t have your expectations dashed.