Purgo Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 What is looking like more of the pvp spec for guardian, Vigilance or Focus for DPS? And what are you specs looking like for Tank PVP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tristanitus Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 What level are you and what do you want to do? tank or dps? this will allow people to post a spec that might fit you. Regarding other peoples specs, im currently running a vigilance/defence tank spec that seems to work fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purgo Posted December 21, 2011 Author Share Posted December 21, 2011 Im currently 22. I was just curious what people were finding useful end game. I was leaning toward DPS PVP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purgo Posted December 22, 2011 Author Share Posted December 22, 2011 (edited) what do you guys think of this for PVP? http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#500bZIMZGMRbddRbGR.1 Edited December 22, 2011 by Purgo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapuchinSeven Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Greetings, I prefer this build: http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#500crhczZhRrMrhdzMM.1 I actually wrote an extensive review of the build over at my blog, the link is here: http://guard-this.com/2011/12/10/hybrid-pvp-build-overview/ Hope this helps! How's your survivability with that spec? I also always feel like going into Vigilance and not taking Shien is a little gimping, but I get that you don't want to lose guard and I'm the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashmadai Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 I PvP in my Defense PvE spec, and though I just do it for fun on the side and mainly PvE, I wouldn't even change that much if I was going to respec. Playing defense guardian in Soresu is amazing. Alderaan - Hold left turret with me and a healer or me and a DPS. Guard them and taunt whoever tries to attack them to ruin their damage output. If anybody attacks me I pop Warding Call, Saber Ward, or Enure and kill them while I get healed or my DPS burns them. Huttball - I'm an insane ball carrier. Tons of HP and armor, pop defensive CDs, push people off the ledge, get healed. I keep guard on my healer while I ball carry because people will never attack him and transfer the damage to me anyway. They always just focus me. Or if my healer has the ball I guard him and AoE taunt everyone trying to kill him to ruin their damage output. Void Star - I don't care for this warzone, but it's basically the same thing. Guard a heal/dps and go to town. Also, in the middle on those bridges I get a ranged to chase to the middle of the bridge, leap, then push them off to their death during the leap immobilize. =) Such a great spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carcarah Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Greetings, I prefer this build: http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#500crhczZhRrMrhdzMM.1 I actually wrote an extensive review of the build over at my blog, the link is here: http://guard-this.com/2011/12/10/hybrid-pvp-build-overview/ Hope this helps! Very interesting build mate, I will give it a try and have a look at your blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purgo Posted December 22, 2011 Author Share Posted December 22, 2011 what about focus? I am hearing that focus is great for pvp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sometimehero Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 what do you guys think of this for PVP? http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#500bZIMZGMRbddRbGR.1 Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I do not think that the imobilize/interrupt from force leap applies to players, so taking stagger uses 2 points better used elsewhere. Personnally, I think going deep into focus misses out on too many of the guardian's PVP talents, so that's not the direction I would take. I would prefer something more like MonkeyGenius is suggesting, except I would dive into tier 5 of defense to get those talents instead of going deeper into vigilance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digglyn Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 (edited) To be honest, it's a very logical build if you know the abilities/talents well. The survivability the build provides is greater than going Defense, due to Unremitting/Protector/Commanding Awe. Not having Shien doesn't gimp anything, especially if you are use to focus management. Don't know why you skipped the talent to reduce your ccbreaker ... However, I'm just lvl 20 (so no endgame pvp experience in this game) but I thought about a more utilitybased build wich you can find here: http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#500crhfzMMkzZhrr0r0zZ0M.1 edit: Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I do not think that the imobilize/interrupt from force leap applies to players, so taking stagger uses 2 points better used elsewhere.. didn't knew that possibility ... Edited December 23, 2011 by Digglyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purgo Posted December 23, 2011 Author Share Posted December 23, 2011 so it seems like there are many different directions you can go for pvp with this class...I can't seem to get the same answer for more then 2 people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaeVinci Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Wouldnt be better for going for burst dmg as pvp is incredibly fast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybarn Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 I'm currently working through trees to run with a 05 / 17 / 19 Guardian for PvP & PvE. Going pretty well for both tbh... http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#500fZIMMMr0zZGMRrzbM.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purgo Posted December 24, 2011 Author Share Posted December 24, 2011 is it worth getting the 31 point in one of the trees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheresthemilk Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 anyone not going focus for the sweeps is bad. jeez guys its 3k crits to EVERYONE in a 6 meter range every 6 seconds... not a better build atm for pvp, anyone saying otherwise is just straight trollin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purgo Posted December 24, 2011 Author Share Posted December 24, 2011 anyone not going focus for the sweeps is bad. jeez guys its 3k crits to EVERYONE in a 6 meter range every 6 seconds... not a better build atm for pvp, anyone saying otherwise is just straight trollin Do you have an example of a good focus build? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YarNine Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 anyone not going focus for the sweeps is bad. jeez guys its 3k crits to EVERYONE in a 6 meter range every 6 seconds... not a better build atm for pvp, anyone saying otherwise is just straight trollin If you're just going to spec strait in to focus, why not play a sent? Same tree, more damage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapuchinSeven Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 To be honest, it's a very logical build if you know the abilities/talents well. The survivability the build provides is greater than going Defense, due to Unremitting/Protector/Commanding Awe. Not having Shien doesn't gimp anything, especially if you are use to focus management. No no, I don't disagree with your build, it's very similar to what I'm using myself. I was just wondering how you felt about those points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianomanhooper Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#500cRZhGr0rhdzMMZhMR.1 ever thot about going this route using shi-cho instead im thinking it will play very well gaurdians are naturally durable so if played well i think it has some potential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardianbuzz Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 My guardian is only level 12 but I'm thinking of working towards a build like this for dps... http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#500cZI0rMrhzzZhrRrzb.1 A free to cast low cooldown auto crit force sweep should be nice, blade rush will also be free to cast and overhead slash will make a good finisher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purgo Posted December 25, 2011 Author Share Posted December 25, 2011 it seems like everyone is rocking different specs...that is either a good thing because there are a couple different directions we can go in or we all have no clue yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianomanhooper Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 it seems like everyone is rocking different specs...that is either a good thing because there are a couple different directions we can go in or we all have no clue yet nylan makes a case for a pretty good defence.. that does ok dps spec and i built mine after that . i wanted to find that perfect balance. so thats why i went 7/27/8 with shi-cho form and lastly i have also seen people going shien... for me a little to far fetched for pvp gameplay but i can be useful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoochi Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 nylan makes a case for a pretty good defence.. that does ok dps spec and i built mine after that . i wanted to find that perfect balance. so thats why i went 7/27/8 with shi-cho form and lastly i have also seen people going shien... for me a little to far fetched for pvp gameplay but i can be useful Mind posting that build would like to have a look at it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purgo Posted December 26, 2011 Author Share Posted December 26, 2011 yeah I would like to see as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idockdudes Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Greetings, I prefer this build: http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#500crhczZhRrMrhdzMM.1 I actually wrote an extensive review of the build over at my blog, the link is here: http://guard-this.com/2011/12/10/hybrid-pvp-build-overview/ Hope this helps! This may be the best way to go for survivability and Im sure its better than going any deeper in defence for damage. There are other roles you need to consider which makes that build a less obvious choice. The 15 second reduced CD on challenging call can be huge for party damage reduction. Thats only if you are good at using taunt and challenge of course. I also think its at least worth considering the utility you get with Hilt Strike and Stasis Mastery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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