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is the best that I can do at the moment. He talks directly about the material that he has given them that protects his (established) characters and their story.

 

Clearly Disney does indeed have the final say, but by all accounts it appears that they have agreed to protect what has happened. I would also guess that Lucas sought to protect the story and legacy of Anakin.

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is the best that I can do at the moment. He talks directly about the material that he has given them that protects his (established) characters and their story.

 

Clearly Disney does indeed have the final say, but by all accounts it appears that they have agreed to protect what has happened. I would also guess that Lucas sought to protect the story and legacy of Anakin.

 

I think I said this already but Disney will not touch or remake the EP1-6 , it is protected and will remain True Canon .

 

In the Article you have given us (Thankyou) it is stated in there apart of the deal is that George Lucas will be credited "Creator of StarWars" (Once he dies ) but I believe it will be at the beginning or end of every Movie , show , book , and game .

This should be a given to be honest .

I am not idiot either , besides his 4+ Billion it is likely him and his family will get royalties on ever future movie , book , game that bares the StarWars Brand .

 

Might even be a Buy back clause as well , meaning if Disney ever wishes to sell the property of company , they must reach out to Lucas or a living relative first.

 

Everything else states in that Article that Lucas will be on to Consult that was a Job he did not ask for , it was one that Disney asked him to take . To keep StarWars within his vision .

It also says that while he can consult them on the rules and laws of StarWars , it is ultimately up to them to follow it if they wish and if they wish not to they can do what they wish.

 

Probably by my post you guys or many of you think I am Anti George Lucas , this is not true . I am scared that the Series will also be up to investors................this is not what I want.

I wanted more Movies , a less tightening on Canon . All could have been done by Lucas or his kids .....

It is my hopes that maybe Darkhorse keeps its rights to make the books and comics , other than what they did with Luke I like most their works . What would Marvel do has me a little scared .

I am not worried about Mickey Mouse or X-Men cross overs as it would kill the Series so I would believe people at Marvel would not be so stupid .

I am worried about the type of stories they would tell , and Darkhorse kept StarWars at a Adult readers level in most ways .

 

But , if they ruin StarWars , my life will not end . It will just be sad of years of memories go down the drain.

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Where you get this ?

Hollywood Reporter

 

Perhaps I'm reading too much into it, but the "...honoring but not revering what came before." Since the follow up asked if that meant the books (i.e. most of the EU). He refused to comment. As we all know his aversion to being frank about story (i.e. Khan in "into Darkness"), this seems to hint that he may indeed, since he is such a fan.

Post the link please because all sources so far point to Lucas has not even looked at the new movie or script so far .

Well yea, NO ONE has seen the movie or the script, because there isn't one yet. They are just fleshing out what they want to do. Kind of a silly statement.

There is nothing about the EU being mentioned and only so far did Disney/LucasFilms state that the Films EP1-6 will remain intact.

*See the Hollywood Reporter above

BAM

All the extreme Fan base just had their veins pop !

CALL A MEDIC!

With that said , Abrams is a Star Wars Films fan and will likely stay true to those films with his own touch on them.

Remember, he is a HUGE fan of Star Wars. He's read the books and it will likely play a roll in his decisions, even if it is subconsciously.

Lucas sold his company and properties to move on . Likely got tired of fans telling him and others around him what he can do or can't with his property .

Likely got tired of the threats that he himself got when PTs were released , all the bad feed back , and the threats his employees (Authors) were getting over their works with StarWars .

George is a incredible decent man who likely got sick of the bs and is letting Star Wars move forward now .

 

It seem TheBBP and I read some of the same stuff:

I can't find where I heard or read that about there being stipulations. But I did find this bit here in THIS ARTICLE.

 

"Even so, he’s attended story meetings for the new film, adjudicating the physical laws and attributes of the Star Wars universe. “I mostly say, ‘You can’t do this. You can do that,’ ” Lucas says. “You know, ‘The cars don’t have wheels. They fly with antigravity.’ There’s a million little pieces. Or I can say, ‘He doesn’t have the power to do that, or he has to do this.’ I know all that stuff.”"

 

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I am not idiot either, besides his 4.1 billion it is likely HE and his family will get royalties on every future movie, book, game that bares the Star Wars Brand.
Incorrect, he sold the IP rights, therefore it no longer belongs to him. He will receive no royalties.

It will just be sad of years of memories go down the drain.

I'm puzzled how it will do that. Do current events change your memory? I mean outside of a head injury or mental illness.

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Honostly Lucas on a consulting level where he gives you basic ideas and thoughts is exactly where you want the guy let the dialog the editing the camera work and all that bringing visions to life to JJ and his crew but, a vision, a basic idea for the grand scheme of things any one who has known Lucas has always given him great praise in these regards the man is a visionary and he did help make this universe I wouldn't have it any other way then to have him as a consultant.
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Honostly Lucas on a consulting level where he gives you basic ideas and thoughts is exactly where you want the guy let the dialog the editing the camera work and all that bringing visions to life to JJ and his crew but, a vision, a basic idea for the grand scheme of things any one who has known Lucas has always given him great praise in these regards the man is a visionary and he did help make this universe I wouldn't have it any other way then to have him as a consultant.
This, exactly.
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Hollywood Reporter

 

Perhaps I'm reading too much into it, but the "...honoring but not revering what came before." Since the follow up asked if that meant the books (i.e. most of the EU). He refused to comment. As we all know his aversion to being frank about story (i.e. Khan in "into Darkness"), this seems to hint that he may indeed, since he is such a fan.

I would say you read way past too far into it ............

Well yea, NO ONE has seen the movie or the script, because there isn't one yet. They are just fleshing out what they want to do. Kind of a silly statement.

And George so far has had nothing to do with it. Script is being wrote by the way .

*See the Hollywood Reporter above

 

CALL A MEDIC!

 

Remember, he is a HUGE fan of Star Wars. He's read the books and it will likely play a roll in his decisions, even if it is subconsciously.

Does not mean he will maintain the EU , a lot of people dislike a lot of elements in the EU . So in the end , what does he pick or does people above him what him to just go by the Movies EP1-6 like already said.....

 

It seem TheBBP and I read some of the same stuff:

 

Yes everything but the Part where Disney says they have control over future movies ...........

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Incorrect, he sold the IP rights, therefore it no longer belongs to him. He will receive no royalties.

Not totally incorrect , you do not know that , There was a Sale , that sale gave him 4billion . Just how you are speculating George has some kinda say , I can speculate his family are going to receive a royalty above agreed price .

Its no speculation that the Movies will bare his name as creator , it was said in the interview .

I'm puzzled how it will do that. Do current events change your memory? I mean outside of a head injury or mental illness.

Last part of your post was like most of it , to get a rise out of me . Poorly written at that.

 

Disney asked George to stay on as a Consultant , in which to this point as linked by OP he has not done anything yet .

I do not blame him .

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Honostly Lucas on a consulting level where he gives you basic ideas and thoughts is exactly where you want the guy let the dialog the editing the camera work and all that bringing visions to life to JJ and his crew but, a vision, a basic idea for the grand scheme of things any one who has known Lucas has always given him great praise in these regards the man is a visionary and he did help make this universe I wouldn't have it any other way then to have him as a consultant.

 

I am not scared of JJ Abrams vision , he will do a great job regardless of those who would not be happy no matter who they got says . Into The Darkness was good and I agree with Trek fans , Abram's seems to be directing StarWars films and not Star Trek Films ..........

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I think I said this already but Disney will not touch or remake the EP1-6 , it is protected and will remain True Canon .Snip...

 

You have mistaken my tone. I am not challenging you. Just offering given facts about Lucas and his role in all of this.

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Last part of your post was like most of it , to get a rise out of me . Poorly written at that.

 

Disney asked George to stay on as a Consultant , in which to this point as linked by OP he has not done anything yet .

I do not blame him .

 

Poorly written?! I have had to correct mistakes and errors constantly with you. Let's start with your first response to me.

Where did you get this [information]?

Post the link please because all sources so far point to Lucas has not even looked at the new movie or script so far . (Run on sentence. Grammar errors)

Please post the link. All sources so far indicate that Lucas has not even looked at any of the rough drafts of the script.

There is nothing about the EU being mentioned and [only so far did](unnecessary) Disney/Lucasfilm stated that the Films EP1-6 will remain intact.

 

BAM

All the extreme Fanbase just had their veins pop !

All the extreme fan's veins popped!

-or-

The entirety of the extreme fan's veins just popped!

 

With that being said, Abrams is a Star Wars film fan and will likely stay true to those films with his own touch on them.

 

Lucas sold his company and intellectual property rights to move on. In all likelihood, he became tired of fans telling him and others around him what he can [do](wrong place) or can't do with his property.

Likely got tired of the threats that he himself got when PTs were released , all the bad feed back , and the threats his employees (Authors) were getting over their works with StarWars .

-revise to-

Another strain upon him came when he released Ep. I-III. There was massive negative feedback, threats of violence against him and his employees. (George WAS the writer and 'Star Wars' is two words)

George is an incredibly decent man who [likely] (unneeded) got sick of the bs and is letting Star Wars move forward now.

 

The red items are corrections to spelling errors and green are grammar corrections. We can go on, but I hope I've made my point. Don't admonish me when your work doesn't even come close to mine.

 

Moving on, unless you can produce the contract that George signed, the sale of an IP means that no royalties will be awarded to the former IP holder, otherwise, it wasn't sold.

Definition of 'Royalties' as provided by U.S.Legal.com:

Royalties are payments made by one company (the licensee) to another company (the licensor) in exchange for the right to use intellectual property or physical assets owned by the licensor.

Since the IP rights were sold, they get no royalties. Only the IP holder receives royalties. Once the sale happened, it is out of George and his family's hands.

 

And my last question was a legitimate one. It was not written to get a rise out of you, I truly want to know how it would affect your memory.

 

My last question, who is blaming him for anything?

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Disney asked George to stay on as a Consultant , in which to this point as linked by OP he has not done anything yet .

I do not blame him .

 

He has indeed been to meetings and has consulted.

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He has indeed been to meetings and has consulted.

 

"While director J.J. Abrams is hard at work on Star Wars: Episode VII, we haven't heard much on the project from George Lucas, who's serving as "creative consultant" on the picture. In fact, it sounds like the Star Wars creator hasn't even spoken to Abrams yet about the film."

""IGN June 18th 2013""

 

 

"Just after winning his Daytime Emmy for The Clone Wars, Lucas revealed to Access Hollywood, "I have not spoken to J.J. He's been busy with Star Trek, and I'm sure that he'll let me know when he's got some questions. So, you know, that's all going well. [Lucasfilm's] Kathy [Kennedy] tells me it's working out great."

Same article Lucas words underlined and Bolded

 

This was on June 18th 2013

Both come from the Article supplied by the OP

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You have mistaken my tone. I am not challenging you. Just offering given facts about Lucas and his role in all of this.

"While director J.J. Abrams is hard at work on Star Wars: Episode VII, we haven't heard much on the project from George Lucas, who's serving as "creative consultant" on the picture. In fact, it sounds like the Star Wars creator hasn't even spoken to Abrams yet about the film."

""IGN June 18th 2013""

 

 

"Just after winning his Daytime Emmy for The Clone Wars, Lucas revealed to Access Hollywood, "I have not spoken to J.J. He's been busy with Star Trek, and I'm sure that he'll let me know when he's got some questions. So, you know, that's all going well. [Lucasfilm's] Kathy [Kennedy] tells me it's working out great."

Same article Lucas words underlined and Bolded

 

This was on June 18th 2013

Both come from the Article supplied by the OP

 

TheBBP is correct.

 

George did sit down with Kathleen Kennedy and others to lay down the "rule book" of Star Wars. J.J. was NOT in attendance. He was still wrapping up "Star Trek into Darkness." Then again, he wasn't needed. J.J. will probably follow the "rule book", but there are no guarantees. This was supplied by THIS article, previously posted by TheBBP.

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"While director J.J. Abrams is hard at work on Star Wars: Episode VII, we haven't heard much on the project from George Lucas, who's serving as "creative consultant" on the picture. In fact, it sounds like the Star Wars creator hasn't even spoken to Abrams yet about the film."

""IGN June 18th 2013""

 

 

"Just after winning his Daytime Emmy for The Clone Wars, Lucas revealed to Access Hollywood, "I have not spoken to J.J. He's been busy with Star Trek, and I'm sure that he'll let me know when he's got some questions. So, you know, that's all going well. [Lucasfilm's] Kathy [Kennedy] tells me it's working out great."

Same article Lucas words underlined and Bolded

 

This was on June 18th 2013

Both come from the Article supplied by the OP

 

He may not have met with Abrams, but he has indeed consulted on the project as stated in an article that I will link again for you HERE>

 

"Even so, he’s attended story meetings for the new film, adjudicating the physical laws and attributes of the Star Wars universe. “I mostly say, ‘You can’t do this. You can do that,’ ” Lucas says. “You know, ‘The cars don’t have wheels. They fly with antigravity.’ There’s a million little pieces. Or I can say, ‘He doesn’t have the power to do that, or he has to do this.’ I know all that stuff.”"

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TheBBP is correct.

 

George did sit down with Kathleen Kennedy and others to lay down the "rule book" of Star Wars. J.J. was NOT in attendance. He was still wrapping up "Star Trek into Darkness." Then again, he wasn't needed. J.J. will probably follow the "rule book", but there are no guarantees. This was supplied by THIS article, previously posted by TheBBP.

Even so, he’s attended story meetings for the new film, adjudicating the physical laws and attributes of the Star Wars universe. “I mostly say, ‘You can’t do this. You can do that,’ ” Lucas says. “You know, ‘The cars don’t have wheels. They fly with antigravity.’ There’s a million little pieces. Or I can say, ‘He doesn’t have the power to do that, or he has to do this.’ I know all that stuff.”

 

""Iger understood Lucas’s concerns. “George said to me once that when he dies, it’s going to say ‘Star Wars creator George Lucas,’ ” he says. Still, Iger wanted to make sure that Lucas, who was used to controlling every aspect of Star Wars, from set design to lunchboxes, understood thatDisney, not Lucasfilm, would have final say over any future movies“We needed to have an understanding that if we acquire the company, despite tons of collegial conversations and collaboration, at the end of the day, we have to be the ones who sign off on whatever the plans are,” says Alan Horn, chairman of Walt Disney Studios.""

March 07 2013 Article Provided by poster TheBBP

 

"While director J.J. Abrams is hard at work on Star Wars: Episode VII, we haven't heard much on the project from George Lucas, who's serving as "creative consultant" on the picture. In fact, it sounds like the Star Wars creator hasn't even spoken to Abrams yet about the film."

""IGN June 18th 2013""

 

 

"Just after winning his Daytime Emmy for The Clone Wars, Lucas revealed to Access Hollywood, "I have not spoken to J.J. He's been busy with Star Trek, and I'm sure that he'll let me know when he's got some questions. So, you know, that's all going well. [Lucasfilm's] Kathy [Kennedy] tells me it's working out great."

Same article Lucas words underlined and Bolded

 

This was on June 18th 2013

Both come from the Article supplied by the OP

 

Believe what you want , Its no concern of mine .

But the truth is in how in the end he has literally no control over said movies but I guess if you want to completely ignore everything of reason just to read out that Consulting part than go ahead and be my quest .

The Rule Book is not really a Rule book , its a lay out of how things are . But in the end it is up to Disney to follow them ................as said in the same Article added by TheBBP.

 

 

Consulting Definition

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con·sult·ing

 

/kənˈsəltiNG/

 

Adjective

(of a senior person in a professional or technical field) Engaged in the business of giving advice to others in the same field.

 

Noun

The business of giving specialist advice to other professionals, typically in financial and business matters.

 

Synonyms

advisory ""

Advisor Definition

 

"adviser: an expert who gives advice"

 

Advice Definition

 

1.Guidance or recommendations concerning prudent future action, typically given by someone regarded as knowledgeable or authoritative.

2.Information; news.

 

The Point of the OP was trying to make is the literally little to do with this so far as Lucas has taken .

How do you get that he has some kinda real say , is beyond me . My last reply , TheBBP I see your point , due to the guy pulling speculation out the air , this is my last reply to this thread . Good Luck with the ends .

 

Edit: Disney only asked him to fill this roll because they want to maintain the StarWars theme as is . It was a position given to him not that he asked for .

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Believe what you want , Its no concern of mine , the story isn't even finished yet so how can he really consult on anything ..............

 

But the truth is in how in the end he has literally no control over said movies but I guess if you want to completely ignore everything of reason just to read out that Consulting part than go ahead and be my quest .

 

How do you get that he has some kinda real say , is beyond me . My last reply , TheBBP I see your point , due to the guy pulling speculation out the air , this is my last reply to this thread . Good Luck with the ends .

 

Edit: Disney only asked him to fill this roll because they want to maintain the StarWars theme as is . It was a position given to him not that he asked for .

 

He is pulling stuff out of the air? What are you doing above? Have they called you to tell you that the story is not ready? They are casting. You can bet that the story is ready. Have they advised you that Lucas' input is not being taken into consideration? Where has anyone said that Disney gave him a consulting job that he did not ask for?

 

You are arguing that Disney has ultimate say and can toss anything that Lucas says out of the window. That is correct. However, you have also argued that Lucas did not consult. That is incorrect as I have shown you multiple times.

 

"Reason" suggests that Lucas' consulting does have an impact on what is coming.

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Lucas will always be the creator of Star Wars. However I feel what Disney was saying was that, though they may come to him with questions about the SWU itself, it doesn't mean they're going to let him tell them what to do. These films aren't going to be something Lucas can nitpick and twist around with whatever he chooses to get it all His Way. They want to keep him involved. They don't want him thinking he's in charge anymore.

 

It's like this; Lucas offered his baby up for adoption. Disney adopted the SW baby. Lucas has visiting rights, but Disney decides how the SW baby will grow.

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Here is an interesting reaction from Dominic Monaghan. Of course it does not mean anything either way and it is merely just something for the fans to speculate from, but it is an interesting reaction nonetheless.

 

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Lucas will always be the creator of Star Wars. However I feel what Disney was saying was that, though they may come to him with questions about the SWU itself, it doesn't mean they're going to let him tell them what to do. These films aren't going to be something Lucas can nitpick and twist around with whatever he chooses to get it all His Way. They want to keep him involved. They don't want him thinking he's in charge anymore.

 

It's like this; Lucas offered his baby up for adoption. Disney adopted the SW baby. Lucas has visiting rights, but Disney decides how the SW baby will grow.

 

Couldn't have said it better myself....

 

& for the record, I actually didn't hate ep 1-3.... I thought they were passable at best. But the books told the stories SOOOOOOO much better.

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Couldn't have said it better myself....

 

& for the record, I actually didn't hate ep 1-3.... I thought they were passable at best. But the books told the stories SOOOOOOO much better.

 

The thing there is because Lucas didn't write the books. The writers for the Novels had a bit more freedom since nothing they had to do would end up on a screen in front of a live audience. All Lucas really did for the novels was tell them they had to keep to his lore, but other than that he didn't mind so much what else they put in there so long as it didn't break the story...or put people on a higher level than his characters.

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The thing there is because Lucas didn't write the books. The writers for the Novels had a bit more freedom since nothing they had to do would end up on a screen in front of a live audience. All Lucas really did for the novels was tell them they had to keep to his lore, but other than that he didn't mind so much what else they put in there so long as it didn't break the story...or put people on a higher level than his characters.

 

Well he did make edits to them, notable to ROTS.

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What kinda sucks though is that a bunch of these EU novels y'all are mentioning can become obsolete very quickly with the new movies. Anything on screen overrides anything on the page, unfortunately. I feel like kissing my Dark Horse comics goodbye. :sul_frown:

 

Well you won't have to kiss them all goodbye, if they are pre-ROTJ. :D

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