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Class Changes: Deception Assassin / Infiltration Shadow

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Class Changes: Deception Assassin / Infiltration Shadow
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supertimtaf
01.12.2018 , 05:44 PM | #251
Quote: Originally Posted by olagatonjedi View Post
You call it a nerf, I call it rebalancing and correction. The process is definitely credited to BW, at least the majority. However, what caused it to get to the point of needing a complete rebalancing was the fault of the BW AND the players. In the past, as most MMOs do, they continued to overbuff classes due to player suggestions and requests because their class was lacking equality with other classes or because they "needed" a buff. BW unfortunately went along with it to appease the public, and well, how did that public view turn out? Anyways, now that most classes were overbuffed and every aspect of balance was destroyed, they needed to perform this class rebalance. It was necessary for any balance going forward. Is it perfect? No. Is it ever gonna be perfect? Likely not either.
I don't recall many posters on this forum asking "Buff sin plz" or even "Nerf sin plz".
There has been a huge wave of complaints since the last nerf, but nothing else. In fact, I think the community here has been one of the most silent and calm of all when it comes to class balance, or imbalance in this case. We did point out that there was an over-buffing to some spec, respectively merc, snipers, and a bit of mara.
By no means there was peoples asking to "buff shadow so that we can resist those" or even "nerf shadow, they are too op right now". Shadows were fine, just at the right place.
Don't blame the players for a decision that was made solely by the developpers.
Even on the PTR they don't listen to players anyway, so I doubt that they would have listened to some miracle topic that was asking to "nerf shadow because I don't want to L2P" (Srsly, that's every "nerf Shadow" post ever)

That's just my two cents on the matter
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olagatonjedi
01.12.2018 , 06:10 PM | #252
Quote: Originally Posted by supertimtaf View Post
I don't recall many posters on this forum asking "Buff sin plz" or even "Nerf sin plz".
There has been a huge wave of complaints since the last nerf, but nothing else. In fact, I think the community here has been one of the most silent and calm of all when it comes to class balance, or imbalance in this case. We did point out that there was an over-buffing to some spec, respectively merc, snipers, and a bit of mara.
By no means there was peoples asking to "buff shadow so that we can resist those" or even "nerf shadow, they are too op right now". Shadows were fine, just at the right place.
Don't blame the players for a decision that was made solely by the developpers.
Even on the PTR they don't listen to players anyway, so I doubt that they would have listened to some miracle topic that was asking to "nerf shadow because I don't want to L2P" (Srsly, that's every "nerf Shadow" post ever)

That's just my two cents on the matter
Im talking about 6 years as a whole, not just this year.

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Evolixe
01.12.2018 , 07:19 PM | #253
Quote: Originally Posted by supertimtaf View Post
I don't recall many posters on this forum asking "Buff sin plz" or even "Nerf sin plz".
I already said my peace before and right after the changes went live.
I am not going to keep repeating myself with the same story. Think my message as far as recent Assassin/Shadow changes was pretty clear and that viewpoint isn't going to change as long as no change is made to the game.

I don't think many people other than Bioware really need convincing of my opinion either.
Everyone seems pretty onesided about the whole thing. Thankfully.


In the end, I think many changes have to be made to the current game. Some to our class, a bunch to the others.
After all.. we're all in the same game. If we want a level playing field, it has to be leveled from all sides.

But we can only do that if we understand the bigger picture and look beyond just our own little bubble.
You have to understand that by making sweeping changes to one overperforming class.. another that was previously underperforming might start to flourish because it's biggest adversary has been largely eliminated.

It's all these things that you have to account for.
Game balance changes are like a chain reaction, everything is connected.
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Maudril
02.16.2018 , 10:17 PM | #254
Wow.... that is a heavy nerf.
I thought Deception was doing meh for burst, and was doing decent on sustained damage?

Welp, time to go Hatred full time.

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Maudril
02.16.2018 , 10:19 PM | #255
Oh, my bad. This is old, isn't it? Woops

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DynoByte
05.23.2018 , 03:21 PM | #256
Yep Burst is gone .. this class is junk now ... unsub ... good bye.
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Equeliber
05.25.2018 , 01:08 AM | #257
Quote: Originally Posted by DynoByte View Post
Yep Burst is gone .. this class is junk now ... unsub ... good bye.
You realize these nerfs happened many months ago?
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