Hello all,

I've recently hit level 50, currently I'm thoroughly enjoying everything but I'd still consider myself a big ol' noob!

This is my first post on the Forum so please be gentle with me.

So it's been just over a week (I think) and I'm currently standing at this with my Tanking Gear:

20k HP (20106 to be exact)

Armour - 37% Damage Reduction

Defence - 25.5% Avoidance

Shield - 35% Chance to block (I get a +15% from my ability so actually is 50% when in combat)

Absorbtion - 40% absorbtion

Accuracy - 98%

I'm a Jedi Consular with (from my research) the optimal Kinetic skill tree build.

My gear currently is mainly Tionese with 2 Columi, 1 Blackhole.

(That's my current stats)

What I'm really asking is for some advice. I'd consider myself a bit of an old hat at MMOs and I'm enjoying tanking with this class and feel like I'm becoming more fluid with the rotation each time I play.

I've done all the normal mode FPs and I've done Maelstrom Prison, Koan Under Siege, False Emperor and Directive 7.

I'd like to try them all but I'm wondering if I'm geared enough for Lost Island or any of the Operations as they seem the next logical step in my progression.

Also, I'd love some advice on what Relic's people are using!!

Sorry to waffle on but I'm really trying to get across my current gear, capacity to play and my need for some good solid advice.

Reason for not many replies, is you did not ask direct question.

LI HM is more of execution thing then gear. You should read guides and strategies for it.

About gear, for Shadow most people say about 24k hp, 33% def chance, 50% shield chance base (70% with buff - 2 piece gear set bonus gives you +5% to that skill) and 62% absorb.

Being a tank is about execution. You direct bosses, manage whole fights, and need to take care of your healer.

My advice would be to get into a guild, as tanking for pugs all the time (specially for fresh tank) might be annoying.

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About gear, for Shadow most people say about 24k hp, 33% def chance, 50% shield chance base (70% with buff - 2 piece gear set bonus gives you +5% to that skill) and 62% absorb.

My tank is in full BH augmented (bar mainhand which is columi with 58 mods) and is no where near those stats. I'm currently sitting around 24k unbuffed, 26% defence and 50/50 shield/absorb.

FlyinSpaghetti, I ment for optimised Dread guard. Mine is 23k Hp, 34% def chcance, 51% shield chance and 55% absorb, rate 61 stuff

OP: drop accuracy please, you will gain some shield chance there.

For Relics, my sin (mirror to shadow) is using pvp WH relics for defence chance, as I don't like shield proc ones, nor click ones... but it's every ones taste.

It really comes down to the healer you bring with you. If they are not the type to cleanse, then you will not make it past the trash imo, if they are decent and on top of things then you should be fine if you execute properly.

I believe on one occasion i healed a PT tank that was about 17k hp with some greens still, wasnt the greatest, but still wasnt the worst

apprently shadow tanks are all over the board cuz i hear ppl shoot for 30/45/60 with 27k HP.

i suggest you get enought dailies to get a healing proc relic, enough warzone comms to get a PvP defense relic, and more daily comms to get a shiekld/absorb on use relic for burst bosses that have shieldable attacks.

dont go into LIHM until you are confident in SM LI, and run it with guildies/friends the first few times so you dont catch grief froim people (thats makes the game unbearable). try to be in all columi with some rakta before you start trying LIHM. and make sure you are using correct stat weights.

If you add up your defence ratiung, shiekld ratig and absorb rating you get a number.

total defense shield absorb

1400 453 430 518

1500 471 479 550

1600 492 527 581

1700 514 575 611

1800 538 621 641

1900 563 667 670

2000 590 712 698

you want to match that number to the left column, then try to get your ratings to match the row for that total. i suggest using robust 27b mods and steadfast enhancements then using pvp relics and augemtns to balance the rest of the stats. get rid of all your accuracy.

try to get your black hole gear from doing the weeklies in black hole and section X, and the SM operations. do EV/KP in tionese/columi and do EC/TFB in columi... then do EV/KP HM in columi/rakata... then you can start thinking about echm.

FlyinSpaghetti, I ment for optimised Dread guard. Mine is 23k Hp, 34% def chcance, 51% shield chance and 55% absorb, rate 61 stuff

 

OP: drop accuracy please, you will gain some shield chance there.

 

For Relics, my sin (mirror to shadow) is using pvp WH relics for defence chance, as I don't like shield proc ones, nor click ones... but it's every ones taste.

If im not mistaken(i very well may be wrong but..) i've read in a lot places there is a hard cap on D chance at 30% also 23k hp is realllllly low for a sin, your self healing is all based off your HP(mine is even too low for my liking)

I believe the poster after you had more optimal stats..

On my Assassin I go with 30% D 65% shield(w/ Dark Ward) and 60 absorb and 25.8k HP this is a Campaign Geared Sin...

If im not mistaken(i very well may be wrong but..) i've read in a lot places there is a hard cap on D chance at 30% also 23k hp is realllllly low for a sin, your self healing is all based off your HP(mine is even too low for my liking)

 

I believe the poster after you had more optimal stats..

 

On my Assassin I go with 30% D 65% shield(w/ Dark Ward) and 60 absorb and 25.8k HP this is a Campaign Geared Sin...

I stopped tanking my sin long time ago and moved to jugg, that's why it's so low

Yes, I know about cap, but my math always said that full block is better then shiled at some point. Personal preferences I guess. plus, my healer never complained.

try to get your black hole gear from doing the weeklies in black hole and section X, and the SM operations. do EV/KP in tionese/columi and do EC/TFB in columi... then do EV/KP HM in columi/rakata... then you can start thinking about echm.

You can Tank EC and TFB sm in Columi? wow i get turned down alot for having my Guardian in Columi.

try to get your black hole gear from doing the weeklies in black hole and section X, and the SM operations. do EV/KP in tionese/columi and do EC/TFB in columi... then do EV/KP HM in columi/rakata... then you can start thinking about echm./quote

 

You can Tank EC and TFB sm in Columi? wow i get turned down alot for having my Guardian in Columi.

becose people love to overgear and want YOU to gear THEM.

TFB sm is doable, won't be easy , but doable. EC sm is easy peasy.

First : get rid of all those accuracy/def and acc/.abs enhancements, and replace them with those that gives shield instead.

20k HP is enough for HM KP/EV and SM EC. For TFB SM, you will want around 24k hp. You will need that much HP to survive the Wrist laser + power punch combo from Kephess.

i've read in a lot places there is a hard cap on D chance at 30%

The maximum contribution to your defense chance that you can get is 30%, which is only achieved when you get an arbitrarily infinite amount of defense. If your Defense chance is listed at 30% (as a Shadow), you're only packing 14% from rating, so you're still 16% away from the actual hardcap.

First : get rid of all those accuracy/def and acc/.abs enhancements, and replace them with those that gives shield instead.

 

20k HP is enough for HM KP/EV and SM EC. For TFB SM, you will want around 24k hp. You will need that much HP to survive the Wrist laser + power punch combo from Kephess.

What's the point, why spend money on optimizing a Columi gear? I'd rather much recommend him to just keep his standard Columi gear and gun for Black Hole gear + place Campaign Armorings, and THEN to optimize his gear.

becose people love to overgear and want YOU to gear THEM.

TFB sm is doable, won't be easy , but doable. EC sm is easy peasy.

Just though i'd report back.

Went into EC Sm with a full Columi geared Guardian tank and to my amazement i held agro while having 2 BH/DG geared players attacking the boss i was tanking.

Was well pleased with myself and Thankful of the group that allowed me.

(Side Note): It was the first 2 Bosses so not sure about the rest yet.