Always interested to fisxuds differences in our way to see characters if you want to. 😉

Ha, same Depending on how organized my head is on any given day, it can be easier if people give me a particular subject/ statement to start with . Otherwise my brain tends to decide -ALL THE THINGS!- Which is exhausting for all involved .

Well I was starting from your comment on the chapter. There seemed to be things you see differently in the character's psychology. 😉

I'm still here, somehow! haven't been reading much of anything due to my current self-loathing of my own writing but I am glad people post their links up! for when I can finally read too xD

Don't be too bothered by the slow moving quietness for a while, we're all waiting for new content

I'm still here, somehow! haven't been reading much of anything due to my current self-loathing of my own writing but I am glad people post their links up! for when I can finally read too xD

Don't be too bothered by the slow moving quietness for a while, we're all waiting for new content

-Waves- Hi Asmodesu!

-Waves- Hi Asmodesu!

*waves* how's Dusk been?!

*waves* how's Dusk been?!

Wellll

Waiting impatiently for more story content, then a brief stint of...camping, Then some slightly more patient waiting for story content or news there of (though only slightly). Seireeni very kindly let me have a look around their Rishi stronghold on the PTS server.

annnd I'm currently annoying Iheaca How about you? You said you were stuck outside the forum for a bit? Were you one of the players who's subscription screwed around?

Wellll

Waiting impatiently for more story content, then a brief stint of...camping, Then some slightly more patient waiting for story content or news there of (though only slightly). Seireeni very kindly let me have a look around their Rishi stronghold on the PTS server.

 

annnd I'm currently annoying Iheaca How about you? You said you were stuck outside the forum for a bit? Were you one of the players who's subscription screwed around?

Exciting! nah, my sub just ran out for a few days then I resubbed because .. I dunno, habit I suppose xD Not entirely sure how long is left this time and too lazy to check

I sorta gave up waiting, don't care as much anymore as to when next content is out. I've moved on to new games.

Well, I'll go with whats the same first makes a good starting point. Your element of she does not expect/ require Alliance members to agree with all her decisions (as alliance commander), and if they feel they no longer support the direction she is taking the alliance in they are welcome to leave, but she does expect/require that they accept/respect those decisions as long as they are alliance members. An attack/ threat to the alliance or it's members form within or without will be treated as such. Warring powers war, challenges will be dealt with as challenges.

 

Internal attacks /infighting will not be tolerated. You handle it properly through the official channels, as specified by the alliance, you accepted upon becoming a member.

 

Not sure if I'm expressing that well, but hopefully you see what I mean. Any comments so far? Want me to clarify anything or extend into differences territory?

Exciting! nah, my sub just ran out for a few days then I resubbed because .. I dunno, habit I suppose xD Not entirely sure how long is left this time and too lazy to check

I sorta gave up waiting, don't care as much anymore as to when next content is out. I've moved on to new games.

It's good if you've found something to keep yourself entertained But I am glad to still see you here I know Eshvara and Paul mentioned a pause (you too I think in that conversation) and there are plenty that come and go (me included) but where's Random_Ru? -sniffs- I miss Random my partner in derailing... I expect we'll see familiar faces as soon as we hear...anything.

 

annnd I'm currently annoying Iheaca

Annoying? Never. But I might not be very available the next 6 days of festival (including today, Depeche Mode, here I come!)

Yes I see. 😉

Well this part is really depending on the PC I guess. I would not necessarily expect the same from a jedi. Or from a pure DS Sith. But I consider that mine is not too brainless.

And she might not be full DS, she will never killing anyone npt respecting her decisions.

Yeah that's what interests me, the different character's we make (pc), how they think/respond to things in game.

For instance my Inquisitor wasn't raised `sith` but finds a lot of common ground with the code/ sith teachings, more than any of the others (Jedi, Voss, Zakuul etc.) The interpretation he follows varies from the conventional approaches but I find that suits him . He's not that concerned with labels but if it's necessary they would go with Sith. Even post Alliance Commander.

 

In your story your pc states that she made a mistake (tactical) bringing Arcann to Odessen/ leaving him free on a leadership of the alliance scale but finds she does not regret it. But my Inquisitor does not feel that way, for his approach to leadership it was an acceptable decision which I suppose highlights that there is a difference in our character's understanding/approach to their leadership of the alliance. While a large part of their response is similar (taking the scenario from your story), the reasoning is subtly different and causes subtle divergences :o I find it fascinating, 's why I like hearing about other peoples characters.

And trust me, I miss Random too!! I lost my beta reader and companion of secret walls of texts. 😛

Yes, Nyx is "sorry not so sorry" as some would say. She considers it a strategical mistake if she really did care about being strategically perfect. But I must confess that she relies a lot on Lana handling her "impulsive mistakes". Poor Lana, this is unfortunately not over for her.

Any other differences? For instance on the NPCs?

 

 

And trust me, I miss Random too!! I lost my beta reader and companion of secret walls of texts. 😛

Do you know if they're taking a pause too? and secret -narrows eyes- walls of text, what secret walls of text do you speak of ?

Edit: Added some under spoiler

Do you know if they're taking a pause too? and secret -narrows eyes- walls of text, what secret walls of text do you speak of ?

I have no clue, Random disappeared.

Hum well, let's say that the writing of some of the chapters sparked very long private discussions. We now have a master in SWTOR popular psychology, specialised in NPCs as well as extensive training in attempting murders on Mary Sues and other clichés. Not that I win all the time, but I try hard.

As my Inquisitor would say `depends on what your trying to achieve ` He wouldn't make the consequences for continued threat/ actions so...defined? They would know there would be consequences, and even what those consequences will range too but not exactly what it would be, adds a level of wiggle room for them and you, more control of the situation. People are often more effected by possibilities than realities. Let them consider their options...and your history of making good on your threats/promises. Also it puts their situation (positive/negative) post judgement squarely on the pc, your forgiveness/ punishment of them was a choice not a demand, as was their actions prior, as will be your/their actions going forward.

Not sure what you mean by differences on the npcs ?

It might be my understanding only. From your first remarks, I thought that there were as well things you wanted to discuss about the way you saw the other characters (Senya, Arcann, Koth, Kaliyo, etc etc.) differently than I do.

Edit: Probably worth mentioning my Inquisitor is neutral alignment- which opens him up for the not sith if not darkside argument. But he follows a lot of the sith philosophy and is perfectly happy to use/lean darkside, he just doesn't see the point in avoiding lightside use where it serves better. Use darkside/lightside as it uses you in turn, but never allow the balance of power to fall to far from you path to victory etc.

I have no clue, Random disappeared.

Hum well, let's say that the writing of some of the chapters sparked very long private discussions. We now have a master in SWTOR popular psychology, specialised in NPCs as well as extensive training in attempting murders on Mary Sues and other clichés. Not that I win all the time, but I try hard.

 

 

 

Yes well, Nyx might be more subtle on other subjects but trust and betrayal are a sensitive point. Theron did not end up very far from being killed because of his betrayal.

 

 

 

It might be my understanding only. From your first remarks, I thought that there were as well things you wanted to discuss about the way you saw the other characters (Senya, Arcann, Koth, Kaliyo, etc etc.) differently than I do.

 

 

 

Nyx was DS all the way up her own ascension to power. Not unnecessarily DS but still not neutral. She has been seeking a more balanced position from the moment the Emperor came into the play, it made her realise a few things about the dark side and what it does to people. She intends to keep her mind intact. And many other aspects influenced, Theron, her friendship with Lana, her position in the Alliance, more recently of course the events linked to Zakuul and her discussions with Satele and Marr.

She will always identify to the sith because of the code itself, but not to the DS (which is not included in it btw) nor the way the Empire used to work.

Hopefully they will pop back in when there's some story content

As for npc's for the most part you haven't done anything I can't see them doing The only thing I would query (from memory) is the Mandalorian challenge (Torian related).

I agree that the code doesn't exactly specify exclusive darkside use, but It's the interpretation many sith make (SWtOR era) and I think a lot of the fanbase also make that distinction -shrugs- I've never had any problem following my own interpretation but the subject (like most) can become quite divisive.

In other news tweaking my stronghold may be becoming a problem

I'm supposed to be levelling my Inquisitor. >_>

Hopefully they will pop back in when there's some story content

As for npc's for the most part you haven't done anything I can't see them doing The only thing I would query (from memory) is the Mandalorian challenge (Torian related).

I agree that the code doesn't exactly specify exclusive darkside use, but It's the interpretation many sith make (SWtOR era) and I think a lot of the fanbase also make that distinction -shrugs- I've never had any problem following my own interpretation but the subject (like most) can become quite divisive.

 

In other news tweaking my stronghold may be becoming a problem

I'm supposed to be levelling my Inquisitor. >_>

Well, I admit that I do not know much about Mandalorians except what I read on Wookiepedia. I got inspired by the Taung blood duel which is usually to death.

The sith code does not specify darkside use at all but rely on aspects that are considered to be linked to the dark side from the very first words. Getting power through passion is not something jedi will allow themselves to do, it is a typical sith thing. However, that does not imply neither that the Force used has to be dark, it would probably be more like a code of conduct.

By the way, to make a link with our favourite doomed emperor, from the moment we saw Arcann turn to the dark side I wondered if the Force he was then wielding from that moment was dark or not. From many aspects mentioned IG, I would not say it was. He kept using the "un-sided" Force the way he was used to, but he had succumbed to the dark side nonetheless. Which would mean that you can be driven by the dark side and use the Force differently, there would then be a difference between what you are and what you use. And now if you add another layer of complexity: Did the dark side get a complete hold on Arcann or did he have control over it? From the difference in him after the Voss ritual, I'd tend to say the first. So what did the dark side exactly have a hold on? Decisions? Behaviour? But not Force wielding? It does not make much sense.

Take the same situation with a character which is a sith but has not succumbed to the dark side the same way but has a hold over it and it becomes even harder to understand and sort out. If someone has a theory, it is definitely welcome.

I am sure I have theories elsewhere, but I'm too sick currently to think straight. I have to approach the Force stuff and light/dark so much but I take a lot of my ideas from the Light-side sith warrior conversations (it gets mentioned a lot that she's not sithy enough in the story and I love the discussions between her and herself (tatooine jedi pilgrimage), with Quinn, with Jaesa and almost every Jedi she bumps into.

I'll work on a wall of text.. slowly, might take a couple of days because sick and tired.

It's good if you've found something to keep yourself entertained But I am glad to still see you here I know Eshvara and Paul mentioned a pause (you too I think in that conversation) and there are plenty that come and go (me included) but where's Random_Ru? -sniffs- I miss Random my partner in derailing... I expect we'll see familiar faces as soon as we hear...anything.

I'm still poking around here and there on the forums, gaming time is spent doing other things though.

I am sure I have theories elsewhere, but I'm too sick currently to think straight. I have to approach the Force stuff and light/dark so much but I take a lot of my ideas from the Light-side sith warrior conversations (it gets mentioned a lot that she's not sithy enough in the story and I love the discussions between her and herself (tatooine jedi pilgrimage), with Quinn, with Jaesa and almost every Jedi she bumps into.

I'll work on a wall of text.. slowly, might take a couple of days because sick and tired.

I hope that you get better soon!

Ah, if only we could get some small content like a few letters from our favourite characters during summer...

I have spent the last week sending and receiving 18th century style letters as I am participating to an epistolary RPG with 5 other people I do not know. It is really amazing and it made me dream of being able to exchange letters with the NPCs (same kind of idea than being able to chat with them in the cantina on various "everyday life" subjects). I know that the AI behind would not be capable of doing that but it would be so nice to be able to trigger some exchanges...

Well, I admit that I do not know much about Mandalorians except what I read on Wookiepedia. I got inspired by the Taung blood duel which is usually to death.

The sith code does not specify darkside use at all but rely on aspects that are considered to be linked to the dark side from the very first words. Getting power through passion is not something jedi will allow themselves to do, it is a typical sith thing. However, that does not imply neither that the Force used has to be dark, it would probably be more like a code of conduct.

By the way, to make a link with our favourite doomed emperor, from the moment we saw Arcann turn to the dark side I wondered if the Force he was then wielding from that moment was dark or not. From many aspects mentioned IG, I would not say it was. He kept using the "un-sided" Force the way he was used to, but he had succumbed to the dark side nonetheless. Which would mean that you can be driven by the dark side and use the Force differently, there would then be a difference between what you are and what you use. And now if you add another layer of complexity: Did the dark side get a complete hold on Arcann or did he have control over it? From the difference in him after the Voss ritual, I'd tend to say the first. So what did the dark side exactly have a hold on? Decisions? Behaviour? But not Force wielding? It does not make much sense.

Take the same situation with a character which is a sith but has not succumbed to the dark side the same way but has a hold over it and it becomes even harder to understand and sort out. If someone has a theory, it is definitely welcome.

As far as I know if a Mandolorian was going to make that challenge it would be a member of clan Cadera (of which he claims to be the last) or cyar'tomade (people who root for your victories) , I don't think Torian had many supporters inside the clans . I'm not sure Mandolorians would make that call (honour duel) to a conflict of the battle of Odessen's type anyway although I think there is a moment in the Bounty hunter's storyline when they are hired to deal with a grudge against a jedi from a previous conflict by Madolorion so who knows -shrugs-

In terms of you force question I can only give you my personal theory. As far as I'm concerned the terms Dark/Light side are more a description of the means in which an individual connects to the force rather than a description of it itself. Lightside is to connect through calm, reason (peace), to connect and respond with your mind not your emotions.

Darkside is to connect through passion, emotions. In this way jedi see the force as a guide/companion. Sith reject this their connection comes through their emotions, to them the force is a weapon, a raw force that they dominate through their passions and turn to their purpose.

That's why Lana's line `may the force ever serve you` resonates for me, it encapsulates her and the sith (her approach to it); To dominate through passion, en-thesis on dominate. your passions are a tool for you to wield, they should not wield you. This is what I think she means when she says to that knight (Zakuul) ` That's the thing with you knights, they never teach you to properly use your anger.` (Quote from memory- may not be correct word for word ) With Sith it's always a fight for control, by the very nature of their connection to the force (preferred), it has to be. Sith are constantly walking the line between controlling or being controlled.

Some sith (the ones that seem to just follow their passions and little else ) could be seen as having failed this battle but the real question is is it a choice? do they follow their passions or are they overpowered by them. Jadus is a good example, I would say he strengthens his connection to the darkside by choosing emotion/conflict above all else, I don't believe emotion takes this choice from him. This sets him apart from less disciplined sith that have lost themselves to their passions despite the similarity to most observers. I think this is what Valky means by him being the best sith. He seems to equate sith with darkside use as well. Which considering as far as we know the original species the fallen jedi mixed with (and their teachings those jedi adopted/adapted) were darkside is fair enough (I still feel there's room for interpretation cultures/disciplines change with the people that follow it. This happened in the jedi historically. As you said - and Ashara I believe?- the sith code seems more a set of guidlines/ a description than rules. Necessary if your discipline revolves around personal freedom/power.)

As for Arcann, He seems to fall very much into the controlled by his emotions category. He is (unintensionally?) connecting to the force through his emotions and unlike the sith he has not been trained to master that approach, just connection through duty. Which explains his and Zakuulan's approach/ demeanour in general. their power is connected to the drive to serve. It's how valky nurtured them (may have pre-dated him somewhat like the sith culture to the dark jedi), Still they are a proud/ powerful people they won't bow to just anybody.

To anybody who has spent a long time in intense uncontrolled emotion, it does make you more predisposed to respond/react that way, and harder to be rational/ have a sense of proportion. Some personality disorders/ mental issues work on this basis ( genetic predisposition and circumstances/ events in their/our lives etc.). This exists in our world. Add to that force powers that increase/ escalate through emotion... well you get the picture.

He's out of control, not completely, he's clinging on. but he's fighting a losing battle. Vaylin found the closest she could find to peace/solace in her prison by stopping fighting (by breaking ). By freeing herself as much as possible by embracing passion/emotion and nothing else...And destroying anyone/thing that attempts to control/contain her with the power that affords. Her coping mechanism for the world was what made her so dangerous. But she wouldn't let you take that away, not anyone. It protected her when noone else did/could.

This also follows for the Jedi, they don't even have the training in managing strong emotion that an average person has (Rep/Imp/other), their order leaves them vulnerable; they succeed at rejecting/ letting go of emotions they're never properly trained in/ prepared for or they fall. Is it any wonder some fail, that any manage is a testament to them/ their survival instinct really.

Anyway rant over, apologies :p.

Edit: Which incidentally makes me think of this song

I'm still poking around here and there on the forums, gaming time is spent doing other things though.

I'm glad you are I'm sure the rest of the Hive are to.

I hope that you get better soon!

 

Ah, if only we could get some small content like a few letters from our favourite characters during summer...

I have spent the last week sending and receiving 18th century style letters as I am participating to an epistolary RPG with 5 other people I do not know. It is really amazing and it made me dream of being able to exchange letters with the NPCs (same kind of idea than being able to chat with them in the cantina on various "everyday life" subjects). I know that the AI behind would not be capable of doing that but it would be so nice to be able to trigger some exchanges...

Yeah small repeatable interactions with companions would be nice. They don't have to be voiced. Just little activities/scenes that raise a little bit of affection/influence and help to feel like your connecting with them outside of causing mayhem (the usual) .

I am sure I have theories elsewhere, but I'm too sick currently to think straight. I have to approach the Force stuff and light/dark so much but I take a lot of my ideas from the Light-side sith warrior conversations (it gets mentioned a lot that she's not sithy enough in the story and I love the discussions between her and herself (tatooine jedi pilgrimage), with Quinn, with Jaesa and almost every Jedi she bumps into.

I'll work on a wall of text.. slowly, might take a couple of days because sick and tired.

Hope your feeling better soon .

As far as I know if a Mandolorian was going to make that challenge it would be a member of clan Cadera (of which he claims to be the last) or cyar'tomade (people who root for your victories) , I don't think Torian had many supporters inside the clans . I'm not sure Mandolorians would make that call (honour duel) to a conflict of the battle of Odessen's type anyway although I think there is a moment in the Bounty hunter's storyline when they are hired to deal with a grudge against a jedi from a previous conflict by Madolorion so who knows -shrugs-

Ah. I think that I will allow myself something not totally accurate until I know how I want to change it. I already made some changes to the first chapter of the story and will do others along the way. This chapter might be included at some point.

In terms of you force question I can only give you my personal theory. As far as I'm concerned the terms Dark/Light side are more a description of the means in which an individual connects to the force rather than a description of it itself. Lightside is to connect through calm, reason (peace), to connect and respond with your mind not your emotions.

Darkside is to connect through passion, emotions. In this way jedi see the force as a guide/companion. Sith reject this their connection comes through their emotions, to them the force is a weapon, a raw force that they dominate through their passions and turn to their purpose.

 

That's why Lana's line `may the force ever serve you` resonates for me, it encapsulates her and the sith (her approach to it); To dominate through passion, en-thesis on dominate. your passions are a tool for you to wield, they should not wield you. This is what I think she means when she says to that knight (Zakuul) ` That's the thing with you knights, they never teach you to properly use your anger.` (Quote from memory- may not be correct word for word ) With Sith it's always a fight for control, by the very nature of their connection to the force (preferred), it has to be. Sith are constantly walking the line between controlling or being controlled.

I think that for both sith and zakuulian knights, the Force is a weapon. But a Sith would consider it a weapon that will serve him/her. A Knight considers the force as a weapon to serve the Emperor, or so they say. Which is something that really made me wonder. Now that there is no Emperor/Empress anymore, how do they consider it? Is the Force serving the Commander?

So the Force a companion/friend to the jedi, a weapon for a sith who s/he is worth wielding, a weapon for a knight who is not worth wielding it but is doing so for the glory of the Emperor... Three different relationships where only the sith consider that their own will is in power.

Some sith (the ones that seem to just follow their passions and little else ) could be seen as having failed this battle but the real question is is it a choice? do they follow their passions or are they overpowered by them. Jadus is a good example, I would say he strengthens his connection to the darkside by choosing emotion/conflict above all else, I don't believe emotion takes this choice from him. This sets him apart from less disciplined sith that have lost themselves to their passions despite the similarity to most observers. I think this is what Valky means by him being the best sith. He seems to equate sith with darkside use as well. Which considering as far as we know the original species the fallen jedi mixed with (and their teachings those jedi adopted/adapted) were darkside is fair enough (I still feel there's room for interpretation cultures/disciplines change with the people that follow it. This happened in the jedi historically. As you said - and Ashara I believe?- the sith code seems more a set of guidlines/ a description than rules. Necessary if your discipline revolves around personal freedom/power.)

That is a conflicting part for me. The limit between controlling and being controlled might be different from an individual to the other, but many texts say that the only way to become more powerful is to surrender to darkness. But how can you become more powerful by surrendering and not controlling anything? So I tend to think that keeping control is the key, which failed to Arcann, to Vaylin and even to Valkorion who was finally blinded to the point of not even considering that he could be challenged and defeated. But the deeper you go, the harder it must be to keep control so the more you seek power, the more it becomes dangerous. Which is quite fine, it means that a balance is kept somehow.

So, light/dark would be more about the philosophy and approach. There is no such thing about a dark Force or a light one, which goes the way Marr/Shan explain and I am totally fine with it. And Force powers are therefore not really linked to a specific Force, only to the way you choose to use it. A jedi might consider that lightning and choke are too cruel and not use them, but healing could be fine for a sith as long as it serves his/her needs.

As for Arcann, He seems to fall very much into the controlled by his emotions category. He is (unintensionally?) connecting to the force through his emotions and unlike the sith he has not been trained to master that approach, just connection through duty. Which explains his and Zakuulan's approach/ demeanour in general. their power is connected to the drive to serve. It's how valky nurtured them (may have pre-dated him somewhat like the sith culture to the dark jedi), Still they are a proud/ powerful people they won't bow to just anybody.

So... controlled by his emotions, definitely. And wielding the Force as a weapon, which is a common ground between sith and zakuulans, except that the former concretely know how to use the weapon for their own sake and the latter don't, which might make them more prone to get overwhelmed. In a way, that would mean that the way Valky put the zakuulan society in place, with him revered almost as a good, guaranteed him to be sure he remained the most powerful, but decreased the power of his own armies at the same time. Odd...

To anybody who has spent a long time in intense uncontrolled emotion, it does make you more predisposed to respond/react that way, and harder to be rational/ have a sense of proportion. Some personality disorders/ mental issues work on this basis ( genetic predisposition and circumstances/ events in their/our lives etc.). This exists in our world. Add to that force powers that increase/ escalate through emotion... well you get the picture.

The picture that comes into my mind is a giant nuclear mushroom.

He's out of control, not completely, he's clinging on. but he's fighting a losing battle. Vaylin found the closest she could find to peace/solace in her prison by stopping fighting (by breaking ). By freeing herself as much as possible by embracing passion/emotion and nothing else...And destroying anyone/thing that attempts to control/contain her with the power that affords. Her coping mechanism for the world was what made her so dangerous. But she wouldn't let you take that away, not anyone. It protected her when noone else did/could.

Vaylin is an interesting case if you see it like this. She was meant to fail, then, because she was consuming herself. In french we would say something like burning the candle at both ends, I do not know if there is an english equivalent.

This also follows for the Jedi, they don't even have the training in managing strong emotion that an average person has (Rep/Imp/other), their order leaves them vulnerable; they succeed at rejecting/ letting go of emotions they're never properly trained in/ prepared for or they fall. Is it any wonder some fail, that any manage is a testament to them/ their survival instinct really.

Ah, we know the Jedi are the poor weak guys, don't we? In a sense, it is right, they cannot be as powerful as a sith can be. But their limit is as well what prevents them from becoming brainless brutes, it can be useful. I would not be surprised that there are more jedi who quitted the order than sith that left.

So, to come back to the initial interrogation, I guess that what matters the most in the sith code is to consider the Force as a weapon or a way to reach your objectives and wielding it that way. It is not the Force that should be considered dark but the way you use it, light being a good and altruistic way, dark being at least more self-centered and less magnanimous. Which I guess makes my Nyx a sith but not a too nasty one.

Edit: Which incidentally makes me think of this song

Nice one. :-)

I think that for both sith and zakuulian knights, the Force is a weapon. But a Sith would consider it a weapon that will serve him/her. A Knight considers the force as a weapon to serve the Emperor, or so they say. Which is something that really made me wonder. Now that there is no Emperor/Empress anymore, how do they consider it? Is the Force serving the Commander?

I'd say either they consider the Commender their new leader and so decide to serve him/her. Or they decide to serve the people of Zakuul and become their protector or to serve the new government of Zakuul.

Ah, we know the Jedi are the poor weak guys, don't we? In a sense, it is right, they cannot be as powerful as a sith can be. But their limit is as well what prevents them from becoming brainless brutes, it can be useful. I would not be surprised that there are more jedi who quitted the order than sith that left.

I'd add that's it's probably much easier for a Jedi to become a Sith than for a Sith to become a Jedi.

So, to come back to the initial interrogation, I guess that what matters the most in the sith code is to consider the Force as a weapon or a way to reach your objectives and wielding it that way. It is not the Force that should be considered dark but the way you use it, light being a good and altruistic way, dark being at least more self-centered and less magnanimous. Which I guess makes my Nyx a sith but not a too nasty one.

I pretty much agree with that.

Wich make both my Sith true Sith but not brainless brutes eirther.

I'd say that my SI was probably darker than my SW though as he mostly fought for himself until he became a Dark Counsilor, while my SW always used his strenght to serve the Empire above everything else.