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sdrakulya
05.09.2020 , 04:47 AM | #11
What? No, noooo! It may seem like a small thing but this is a game of alts and many of us log in and out dozens of times per day. This is an added annoyance to the process. Imo you shouldnít bother with this at all, there are many other useful things you could be working on, but if you do it, it HAS to be voluntary. As someone pointed out, there are some players that wonít want this, ever. Iím one of those players. Donít do it, please!

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JarenWelen
05.09.2020 , 06:15 AM | #12
To use a quote: "Your constant silence throughout our history... This was your distraction?"

Really though, I would much rather see resources going towards fixes and balancing that would provide meaningful quality of life changes to players. I can already see, as others have said, that this will become an annoyance.

Quote: Originally Posted by DanielSteed View Post
The featured Cartel Market Item
I actually wouldn't mind this as a "once-per-account-per-day" pop-up when logging in instead.

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HKtheindomitable
05.09.2020 , 08:55 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by sdrakulya View Post
What? No, noooo! It may seem like a small thing but this is a game of alts and many of us log in and out dozens of times per day. This is an added annoyance to the process. Imo you shouldnít bother with this at all, there are many other useful things you could be working on, but if you do it, it HAS to be voluntary. As someone pointed out, there are some players that wonít want this, ever. Iím one of those players. Donít do it, please!
So is STO. And theirs is intrusive. You can't do anything without closing it. EVERY TIME you load a character. I'm all for this kind of thing. Not intrusive, but a welcome window. I'm surprised it wasn't done long ago. This is definitely needed. So many are in chat going "is x available/active/ready?"
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LD_Little_Dragon
05.09.2020 , 09:59 AM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Evolixe View Post
There will be plenty of people that don't need or want this
Not when they log on, not when they log off, not at any point in time during their online session

Just make it possible to permanently silence (hide) it, yeah
I second this, I can't see really using this, it's not an improvement over just hitting 'L' to open up the mission log.

That plus the dropdown design means the options to move the window are limited to the upper part of the screen. Just no.

I want MORE interface customization options, not less. I changed the default interface as soon as I made my first character and do not like being forced to run with whatever the dev's think is the 'best' interface setup.

Just stop messing with the UI unless you can make the additions fully customizable.
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HKtheindomitable
05.09.2020 , 10:05 AM | #15
Okay, now that I found where it is thanks to someone mentioning it's the drop down with "friends and guild", I see it. Everyone here calling it "intrusive". As I mentioned in a previous post, the welcome window in STO, makes it impossible to do or see anything without closing it on every character you log into, every time. That's intrusive. By being a drop down box, this is already non-intrusive. I also love the drop-down/retract animation.

Hint: You can resize it via the U.I. editor. AND you can move it around w/o the U.I. editor. This alone makes it awesome.

So, this is awesome. A welcome addition. To give the feedback requested:
Your next Crit Path Mission (or Generic Activity Finder if you don't have any): This is great. I love it. Sometimes I forget what primary mission a character is on. Or what the primary mission is. However, right now, on my transferred character with no primary (purple) missions (completed all story to current), it says "Balmorra Droid Reconnaissance" (Reconnaissance is cut off btw). When I click on that, it opens my mission log to the Event "The All Worlds Ultimate Swoop Rally". Pretty sure that's got nothing to do with Balmorra droids.

The current Conquest (and your personal goal): This is awesome. I'm not a conquest fanatic, so I can't really say much about it. I don't have any preferences as to how this one functions.

The featured Cartel Market Item: This is... okay. I feel it could be better used for something else, like what the daily Ops is. This is based on the current "three item" setup. I have missed the daily sales several times. It's also not opening the CM when clicked on. But I'm not surprised about that last one.

Since it can be scaled via U.I. editor, I am okay with three more items added to the right of what's there now. Also, the current items could be scaled down a bit. Not much though because if it's scaled down with the U.I. editor, it'll be too small to even read.

If you move it, the U.I. editor location doesn't change. If you move it, and you open, then exit the U.I. Editor the welcome window then snaps to the center of the screen. If you log out then back in to the same character, it resets and doesn't snap to the center anymore when performing the above actions.
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LD_Little_Dragon
05.09.2020 , 10:17 AM | #16
Where is the number of players in the instance counter?

Is this a bug or a new design? I like to know how crowded an instance is, it can affect gameplay.
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Lord_Thorne
05.09.2020 , 01:16 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by LD_Little_Dragon View Post
Where is the number of players in the instance counter?

Is this a bug or a new design? I like to know how crowded an instance is, it can affect gameplay.
Ditto this.
In addition, the 'Search' ability seems to have disappeared! This is something I use on an almost daily basis, mostly in dealing with the large guild I'm in. Did it move or am I missing something?

In general, this window as it is doesn't do much for me. Between a number of active alts, guild activities, and assorted Conquest bits, I've become comfortable with sorting and finding missions on my own.
For myself, I could see it being an ad for the current Cartel special of the day (which I usually but not always remember to check), and another about dev announcements & patch notes. Maybe this toon's current Conquest total.
Ideally, one could use the Interface Editor to select from a range of possible 'welcome' notices?
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FlameYOL
05.09.2020 , 01:43 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by HKtheindomitable View Post
Okay, now that I found where it is thanks to someone mentioning it's the drop down with "friends and guild", I see it. Everyone here calling it "intrusive". As I mentioned in a previous post, the welcome window in STO, makes it impossible to do or see anything without closing it on every character you log into, every time. That's intrusive. By being a drop down box, this is already non-intrusive. I also love the drop-down/retract animation.

Hint: You can resize it via the U.I. editor. AND you can move it around w/o the U.I. editor. This alone makes it awesome.

So, this is awesome. A welcome addition. To give the feedback requested:
Your next Crit Path Mission (or Generic Activity Finder if you don't have any): This is great. I love it. Sometimes I forget what primary mission a character is on. Or what the primary mission is. However, right now, on my transferred character with no primary (purple) missions (completed all story to current), it says "Balmorra Droid Reconnaissance" (Reconnaissance is cut off btw). When I click on that, it opens my mission log to the Event "The All Worlds Ultimate Swoop Rally". Pretty sure that's got nothing to do with Balmorra droids.

The current Conquest (and your personal goal): This is awesome. I'm not a conquest fanatic, so I can't really say much about it. I don't have any preferences as to how this one functions.

The featured Cartel Market Item: This is... okay. I feel it could be better used for something else, like what the daily Ops is. This is based on the current "three item" setup. I have missed the daily sales several times. It's also not opening the CM when clicked on. But I'm not surprised about that last one.

Since it can be scaled via U.I. editor, I am okay with three more items added to the right of what's there now. Also, the current items could be scaled down a bit. Not much though because if it's scaled down with the U.I. editor, it'll be too small to even read.

If you move it, the U.I. editor location doesn't change. If you move it, and you open, then exit the U.I. Editor the welcome window then snaps to the center of the screen. If you log out then back in to the same character, it resets and doesn't snap to the center anymore when performing the above actions.
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TonyTricicolo
05.11.2020 , 07:09 AM | #19
Here's my take:

It seems like you want to cater to the casual by adding streamlined features to enable their ease of game play. Great.
The welcome window can help that, But... I can not move it lower than a certain point. I don't see a mailbox anymore. It opens up fully extended and I can't adjust it. Adding the cartel market feature of day is very freaking shady. Overall? It's a giant "MEH" for me!

It's the people that have no desire for these features that are truly forgotten. If you add something to the HUD/UI at least let the player have an option in the editor to tweek it. Choices like moving, inverting, resizing, customizing, and disabling would be appreciated.


You can not press Escape to exit the Proficiency page, you must press K.
Exploration mission icons still appear above npc regardless if the toggle option on the map is turned on or off.
No option to remove floating treasure chest icon above vendors.
Boss loot drop windows appear in middle of screen and can not be moved.
Stronghold and planetary guild territory banners still have no option to be disabled.
Renown and conquest have no option to be disabled.

I don't care who owns what planet! I don't want to die from adds left over from a boss because the loot window pops up in my face. I can care less about stupid renown and conquest notifications every time i wipe my behind and I detest those F'ing floating treasure chest icons above vendors!! What happened to letting us play our way?
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hillerbees
05.11.2020 , 09:54 AM | #20
I can see ZERO benefit to this new UI item...can you explain the thinking behind it?...don't remember it ever being asked for?!!

I'd much rather see the Crew Skills and Crafting windows UI being addressed - maybe combined. Every time I craft I end up with about 5 or 6 UI elements open ...GTN, Inventory, Crew Skills, Crafting, Materials, Legacy Bank - I have a big monitor and it always still ends up cramped.

Please focus on something useful...Jedi are meant to be all about focus right?!!