stoopicus Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) There's another thread on this but I thought the title needed to be more accurate. People need to know that your opponents may be doing this, at least until they (hopefully) nerf it. I don't even think this is really a bug, and I definitely don't think it is an exploit (obviously, or I wouldn't be posting about it.) I think this is the current intended behavior and it is simply silly and a bit OP. With the current state of bolster, the DvL XP suit bolsters to insane levels. For leveling toons, this makes sense since the the sole purpose of this thing it to speed up leveling. At max level, that becomes a bit OP, though. Here's a comparison. I went with a DPS spec to avoid overly boosting HP. Vengeance Jugg in a mix of 230/234 for most slots with 240 saber hilt and armoring on the focus, at the bolsterizer: Mastery: 6066 Endurance: 7367 Power: 3480 Crit: 1845 Damage (Pri): 3397-4039 Damage (Bonus): 2114.2 Crit chance: 42.27% Crit mult: 71.18% Health: 113515 Armor: 7798 Damage Reduction: 35.70% After swapping in 5 of the XP suit pieces (all but boots and gloves) with only green 210 mods: Mastery: 6222 Endurance: 7960 Power: 3973 Crit: 1811 Damage (Pri): 3549-4191 Damage (Bonus): 2266.2 Crit chance: 42.25% Crit Percent: 70.98% Health: 120464 Armor: 7798 Damage Reduction: 35.70 Edited January 29, 2017 by stoopicus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groncho Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 can u try it on a wz with purples maybe is 2 much but as i see, it's not compensating the non set bonus if u are using them for some classes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoopicus Posted January 26, 2017 Author Share Posted January 26, 2017 can u try it on a wz with purples maybe is 2 much but as i see, it's not compensating the non set bonus if u are using them for some classes Yeah maybe this weekend I'll try that for the lulz (probably busy until then). And yeah obviously no set bonus this way. Still, damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawiki Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 I always thought Bolster was weird with this suit on in lowbies but this is simply ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoopicus Posted January 26, 2017 Author Share Posted January 26, 2017 I always thought Bolster was weird with this suit on in lowbies but this is simply ridiculous. It almost feels like BW is trolling with this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lhancelot Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 It almost feels like BW is trolling with this one. It's pretty clear they patch stuff in without checking and cross checking everything before it goes live. I understand the scope of things is huge regarding a change to bolster and the gearing system because of all the gears and pieces that are in the game, but let's be honest here. They are their own worst enemies. They patch in such huge sweeping changes it's no wonder so much is out of whack when it goes live. Couple that with the fact often times the huge changes are not wanted or enjoyed by the masses, it just makes these giant sweeping patches even more disappointing and frustrating. I respect the devs for the type of work they are capable of doing. I do not like the changes they are adding to this game though. It just seems like a blind man is steering this ship. He is totally ignoring all the weathercasts that are informing him that unless he turns the ship around, he is doomed because he is heading straight into a gigantic tsunami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoopicus Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) I should have time to try popping in some higher level stuff later today. I've heard rumors of 135k HP (which is what my DPS Jugg was bolstering to in 5.0 when bolster was 250). This thing is so wrong. Edited January 28, 2017 by stoopicus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoopicus Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) Swapping in 240 mods (Lethal Mod); enhancements are still 210 green Adept, augs are 208 power, and remember this is just 5 of the 7 pieces: Bolsterizered Vengeance Mastery: 6527 Endurance: 8207 Power: 4228 Crit: 1811 Damage (Pri): 3674-4316 Damage (Bonus): 2391.7 Crit chance: 42.59% Crit Percent: 70.98% Health: 123454 Armor: 7798 Damage Reduction: 35.70 Bolsterizered Immortal Mastery: 6463 Endurance: 8561 Power: 3639 Crit: 1509 Damage (Pri): 3519-4161 Damage (Bonus): 2236 Crit chance: 40.51% Crit Percent: 68.97% Health: 127743 Armor: 13647 Damage Reduction: 49.67 For comparison, from the OP, this is my normally geared Vengeance Jugg in a mix of 230/234 for most slots with 240 saber hilt and armoring on the focus, bolstered to 232 at the bolsterizer: Mastery: 6066 Endurance: 7367 Power: 3480 Crit: 1845 Damage (Pri): 3397-4039 Damage (Bonus): 2114.2 Crit chance: 42.27% Crit mult: 71.18% Health: 113515 Armor: 7798 Damage Reduction: 35.70% Well, that's enough of this thing. I could easily see people topping 150k HP with endurance mods, augs and enhancements. Edited January 28, 2017 by stoopicus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quenadarious Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Can you still get the DvL suit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoopicus Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 Can you still get the DvL suit? nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec_Fortescue Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 It's ridiculous how nobody cares about this. I changed back to regular gear because I am actually managing without dvl. xD Most players are just that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_York Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Juggs in this gear in tank spec do 4k dps in ranked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoforcer Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 This has been reported to the Devs and will be nerfed soon so don't waste your time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec_Fortescue Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Juggs in this gear in tank spec do 4k dps in ranked. I do that much without this gear. :> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec_Fortescue Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) This has been reported to the Devs and will be nerfed soon so don't waste your time But they have intentionally BUFFED the damage reduction in this gear because of people using this gear while leveling and dying quickly in regs. Edited January 28, 2017 by Alec_Fortescue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoopicus Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 This has been reported to the Devs and will be nerfed soon so don't waste your time Hope so, this clearly needs to be nerfed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lhancelot Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 This has been reported to the Devs and will be nerfed soon so don't waste your time Dear Neoforcer, did you mean "soon" or "Soon™"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoopicus Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) Dear Neoforcer, did you mean "soon" or "Soon™"? I don't play ranked (I hate arenas), but given the last few weeks and reading here and elsewhere, all I can say about Season 8 is LOL. BW needs to fix this ASAP, or give one of these to everyone and just call it the new PvP suit. I refuse to use this thing on any L70, but it also bolsters L65s to crazy heights too. Then again, I'd say wearing it while leveling is legit regardless of stats - that's its sole intended purpose. Edited January 29, 2017 by stoopicus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lhancelot Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) BW needs to fix this ASAP, or give one of these to everyone and just call it the new PvP suit. Yeah, they might as well revert back to how we used to get a full suit of entry level pvp armor as soon as we hit cap level, remember that? What was it called, recruit? They already went back to how gear grinding was prior to 3.3, why not add in a bag that you get at cap level that grants you a full suit of PVP armors? Edited January 29, 2017 by Lhancelot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoopicus Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) Yeah, they might as well revert back to how we used to get a full suit of entry level pvp armor as soon as we hit cap level, remember that? What was it called, recruit? They already went back to how gear grinding was prior to 3.3, why not add in a bag that you get at cap level that grants you a full suit of PVP armors? The weird thing is, I don't even think this is really a bug, and I definitely don't think it is an exploit (obviously, or I wouldn't be posting about it.) I think it is the intended behavior. Since this suit is made for the sole purpose of speeding up leveling I think these effects are working exactly as designed. It's just having a silly and somewhat OP effect at max level. I mention this because someone called out another person trying to report this in the bug report subforum. That's just wrong - people are using this in PvP now and everyone needs to be aware of what's going on. And it definitely needs to be nerfed. Edited January 29, 2017 by stoopicus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllisonLightning Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 An easy fix would be a nerf at level 70 that makes the XP armour useless. You shouldn't be wearing it at 70 either but my concern is they'll break it. I don't bother wearing it levelling but people who run FPs do and they already trend on the derp side of players. Not everybody who wears it is, but it seems to be a thing in flashpoints. It just shouldn't be working at endgame PvP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoopicus Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 Agreed - I don't even have a problem with sub-70s wearing it in WZs; it should simply have lower statcaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurfer Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 The tooltips when you login still mention that you get WZ commendations...these clowns do not pay attention to detail. It will be months before this **** is fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoopicus Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) Welp it's been five days now with no comments from the devs in this or the other thread, or the threads reporting it as bugs, or PMs. I guess it's working as intended! Edited February 1, 2017 by stoopicus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec_Fortescue Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) Welp it's been five days now with no comments from the devs in this or the other thread, or the threads reporting it as bugs, or PMs. I guess it's working as intended! In most cases they wouldn't be talking about serious exploits on forums but they'd also remove the threads. I guess it's safe to use dvl gear for the time being. Edited February 1, 2017 by Alec_Fortescue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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