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Non-force Users beyond the class stories

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Non-force Users beyond the class stories

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FlameYOL
02.10.2018 , 07:42 AM | #11
It can work, I see a lot of people for example discrediting the Smuggler but honestly if you go DS you can build your own criminal empire, I think that would raise Tenebrae's attention a little bit, plus regardless of class during Ziost you're one of the few constantly trying to defy him, in my opinion that moment you became a focus of his attention regardless of who you were previously, and force users have been known to be taken down by normal beings, it's not impossible.
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Meisterschreck
02.10.2018 , 07:54 AM | #12
Cheers for the input guys, I think ill carry on with my agent then. I already get to see it from a FU perspective with my knight after all

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drug_cartel
02.21.2018 , 06:42 PM | #13
I've done it as Warrior and Trooper. Neither felt horrifically inappropriate, but both definitely had their own unique flavor. As the Warrior, I felt more committed to Beniko and the Arcann portion of the story, feeling very personally involved and more aware of Valkorian. As the Trooper, I found I cared a lot more about the greater Alliance, and in fighting not just against Arcann, but against Zakuul.

As always, the story will make as much sense as the effort you put into it, so if you skip cutscenes and speed through mashing 'All Lightside' or 'All Darkside' choices, you can expect all stories to suffer. If you just do what your character would do, it can be enjoyed as any class.

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Thermonuked
02.22.2018 , 06:16 AM | #14
played it on all classes, both sides, light and dark choices, and tbh, apart from chapter 12, it works well, as said previously, valkorian pops up from time to time, with various dialogue options and choices for you to make, and explains how NFU's manage to do things they normally cant, apart from chapter 12..

tbh, most of chapter 12 isnt too bad, its only that force leap thing really.

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JattaGin
02.22.2018 , 07:17 AM | #15
I have also played KotFE/KotET with all classes and the only class where it didn't make sense at all was with my smuggler. But that's mainly because I play him as a mid 50s grey-haired old fart who likes to hustle, fool around and enjoy life. The beginning of KotFE alone is completely ridiculous. He'd be the last one Valky (or anyone) would be interested in.

I did enjoy KotFE/KotET very much on my trooper. I think it suited her well, especially building the whole Alliance thingy. That's exactly what she's good at: forming alliances, leading her peeps. She is, after all, the bestest soldier in the whole galaxy. I expected nothing less of her.
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cool-dude
02.22.2018 , 11:03 PM | #16
Personally feel like the story was specifically written with the Jedi Knight and Sith warrior in mind, but any of the force users can just as easily make sense. The inquisitor is for the most part, following in the exact shoes as Vitiate did in his rise to power. Vitiate started as a runt viewed as a weakling, then became the most powerful being alive. inquisitor started as a slave, and became one of the top leading members on the dark council, and is one of the most powerful people in the galaxy; I can easily see Vitiate being impressed by that. While the Jedi consular is one of the most powerful Jedi ever, who faced off against the children of the emperor; something that would put them under Vitiates radar.

Rest of the classes take a great deal of head canon and suspension of belief.
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ZoIushka
02.22.2018 , 11:56 PM | #17
Personally, I only play the Eternal Throne stuff with a sith warrior because for me that has the best story arch and the most satisfying flow from class to expansion.

For everyone else, I just get them to 70 and skip straight to fractured alliances. I play the game for the story and that class provides the best story (at least for me).

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Aeneas_Falco
02.23.2018 , 09:08 AM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Xilizhra View Post
I kind of wonder why these people are having problems with it now. On Corellia, a random smuggler can kill three Dark Council members; non-Force users having leet skillz is hardly new.
I'm guessing that is likely because the planet stories are both optional and completely identical for all four classes from that story's faction. While the Smuggler could kill all three dark Council members, it isn't necessarily part of the canon. All four Republic classes have access to the same story so the player could have it as the Knight or the Consular in their canon instead instead, either one of which is far more plausible. It is up to the player which of the four heroes liberated Corellia. A lot of players also did the planet stories once and skipped them with subsequent characters from that faction.

In contrast none of the Chapters in KOTFE or KoTET can be skipped if you want to progress, unlike Corellia's planet story. A Smuggler protagonist can't skip killing Valkorian because "that's my Jedi's storyline" because once we get into KoTFE there is only one Outlander story and there other 7 characters effectively have their stories cease. Sure, you can load up another character and take him or her through KotKE or KoTET as well, but now you're on an alternate timeline, unlike in the original story.

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Raynezazki
03.01.2018 , 11:30 AM | #19
Agent is the only non force user that worked for me. I can see why the Emperor would respect them enough to want them to be his vessel. BH, Smug and Trooper though? Not so much.

Also most of the time you're getting rag dolled by his crazy kids anyway so not having force powers doesn't have much of an effect.

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AbilityDrain
03.12.2018 , 05:30 PM | #20
I've only played through the expansions with my Smuggler toon so far and I've found (at least for me) that it worked surprisingly well with that particular non-force using class, especially the way I've been roleplaying her.

Given how the Smuggler's class story has seen them being dragged into all sorts of drama simply for being in the wrong place at the wrong time, going forward into the expansions is just an escalation of the ever-increasing trouble they seem to find themselves in, which I find highly comical. All my Smuggler wanted to do was fly around the galaxy engaging in petty crime and the occasional gun for hire gig, but ends up ruling part of the galaxy completely against her will. The best part of it is that you can complain and protest about your new role(s) throughout both expansions.

As for the battles feeling unsuited for non-force users, it's worth taking into account that we have Valkorion dwelling inside us so even if you don't make use of his powers directly, he's still giving you an edge in battle and preventing you from dying (for example, when Arcann thrusts his lightsaber into your chest, Valkorion keeps you alive where you would've otherwise died).

I also feel that Valkorion's interest in the protagonist (regardless of achievements and class) is largely due to his own over-inflated ego. We interfered and irritated him so much on Ziost that I got the impression that he decided it would be entertaining to toy with us for a while before hollowing us out, partly for revenge and partly for his own amusement like a predator playing with its prey before they kill it.