Please upgrade your browser for the best possible experience.

Chrome Firefox Internet Explorer
×

Conversation reply choices: paraphrasing vs. showing full text

STAR WARS: The Old Republic > English > Story and Lore
Conversation reply choices: paraphrasing vs. showing full text

RowanThursday's Avatar


RowanThursday
04.08.2020 , 01:07 AM | #11
I'm fine with the paraphrase, but I do wish the game would be a little more consistent about whether tags for [Lie] and [Sarcastic] would be used. It's all too easy to make one's character appear a cretin, when you can't gauge the mood of the response.

"Jedi, can you get me a pint of milk, while you're out shopping?"

"A Jedi's limits must always be put to the test."
"... Pointless meatbag bickering."
-- HK-55

SteveTheCynic's Avatar


SteveTheCynic
04.08.2020 , 09:17 AM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Danoots View Post
4 years later, paraphrasing is still ****.
For some of the conversations, it's not so much four years as *eight*. Plenty of the more ... exotic ... erroneous paraphrases are part of the base 1.0 game, so it's more a case of them not going back and fixing the paraphrases.

In concept (reality may exert its bad habits and intervene...), it's not much work to change the preset paraphrase to be something closer to the actual message of the spoken word / subtitles. In some (but not all) cases it would even be feasible to just splat in the subtitles themselves.

For the longer bits of mis-paraphrased gabble, someone would have to write a new paraphrase because the player says too much to fit on the dialogue wheel (remember that it almost certainly has to fit in just one line, and definitely it should work in 1440-pixel or even smaller screens at 100% global scale). But, of course, someone has to make a pass through about a million dialogue lines (three languages times probably about 300K lines per language) to see which ones need to be fixed. (Yes, I know, a million reduced by about 50% because it's only player lines and then again by about 50% because in most circumstances male and female characters say the same thing, then reduced some more because the Inquisitor says, "Murder and mayhem await," a *lot*, but even then it's probably at least 100K lines.)
http://www.swtor.com/r/Hg3sV2
To go to Belsavis, you must go to Belsavis.
I never had a Fine Mithril Sword of a very powerful glorious invincible hero scout with ruby inlays and platinum engraving in June language

Cotlu-Hunlon's Avatar


Cotlu-Hunlon
04.08.2020 , 04:50 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by RowanThursday View Post
"Sith, can you get me a pint of milk, while you're out shopping?"
"MURDER and MAYHEM await!"

It's certainly a nice idea, a mouseover or something to reveal the actual sentence!

The Nostalgia Thread - Come live in December 2011 with me

RowanThursday's Avatar


RowanThursday
04.08.2020 , 05:48 PM | #14
Darth Baras: "Apprentice, open this cookie jar for me."
Sith Warrior: "Now you'll see what a Sith is capable of."
"... Pointless meatbag bickering."
-- HK-55

Hadsil's Avatar


Hadsil
04.11.2020 , 08:34 PM | #15
I do find it annoying when I choose an option because it says what I want to say but that actual dialogue has the opposite meaning. My character comes across rude or selfish when I didn't want him to be. For example my Scoundrel only wanted to say he didn't have romantic feelings to the Mandalorian Companion, but the actual dialogue made him a bigot because he said he didn't want to be with her because she had horns. Just today as a Consular on Alderaan all I wanted to say was the Panteer didn't owe me anything when I questioned the statement of being owed, but the actual dialogue had me inquire how much financial reward I would get. At least I chose the option to have the Aligned choices marked, so I won't accidentally go Dark when I don't want to.

SteveTheCynic's Avatar


SteveTheCynic
04.12.2020 , 01:38 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by RowanThursday View Post
Darth Baras: "Apprentice, open this cookie jar for me."
Sith Warrior: "Now you'll see what a Sith is capable of."
Darth Baras: "Apprentice, open this cookie jar for me."
Sith Warrior: "Some elaboration is required."
http://www.swtor.com/r/Hg3sV2
To go to Belsavis, you must go to Belsavis.
I never had a Fine Mithril Sword of a very powerful glorious invincible hero scout with ruby inlays and platinum engraving in June language

Mercenius's Avatar


Mercenius
05.01.2020 , 02:32 PM | #17
Just gonna piggyback off this thread to ask: What do you do when a conversation option you choose wasn't to your liking? Is there a way to repeat a conversation without resetting the whole quest?

Erevan_Kindelar's Avatar


Erevan_Kindelar
05.01.2020 , 03:24 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Mercenius View Post
Just gonna piggyback off this thread to ask: What do you do when a conversation option you choose wasn't to your liking? Is there a way to repeat a conversation without resetting the whole quest?
If the conversation option was not to your liking, but the conversation has not yet ended, you can hit Escape to back out of the conversation, and start that cut scene again. If the conversation has completed, then you cannot go back and redo it, short of resetting the quest.
I am fairly sure that there are/were (not sure if they were changed, it was some years ago) a couple of quests that bug out badly if they are reset. I cannot remember the specific quests, but I think they might have been Sith Warrior and Bounty Hunter class quests, so kind of story-breaking... I guess the moral of that story is to have your finger hovering over the Escape key just in case, rather than relying on the quest reset option
I am telling the truth, honestly! I am as honest as the day is long! Besides, I am a terrible liar, everyone can see when I am lying - my lips are moving.
Like most other subs, I have a Referral Link. Clicking it gets you some stuff, and me some stuff too.