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Let's celebrate what is good about SWTOR

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aerockyul
05.22.2019 , 02:26 PM | #11
I think my sarcasm meter might be faulty on this one. I've never seen anyone bring up the space-barbie aspect in anything other than a pejorative dig at the people who take that semi- to fully- seriously. Maybe it's carry-over hate from the insinuation that because it's mostly tied to the Cartel Market it must be evil and responsible for devs' focus being pulled from making a new Operation every month and new PvP maps every week and putting the VA's on retainer to make constant, new, lengthy cutscenes for desired weekly story patches.

I'm struggling to think of a segment of the population beyond generically subbing that does more to pay the bills around here than the Cosmetic Fluff crowd.

If you were being genuine, I agree that it's pretty amazing. The only thing better would be an update to add more faces to the game, as well as adding further cosmetics like piercings, jewelry, glasses (what, this galaxy has 100% perfect vision in every corner?), tattoos in places other than the face like a drunken Mike Tyson would do, etc.
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05.22.2019 , 03:24 PM | #12
Um...
Quote: Originally Posted by aerockyul View Post
Id find it hard to believe this sort of thing goes on in the preferential treatment forum.

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Lhancelot
05.22.2019 , 07:01 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by aerockyul View Post
If you were being genuine, I agree that it's pretty amazing.
Why would I be kidding about that, the customization for player characters especially the amount of outfits available is amazing. My two favorite things on SWTOR is dressing up all my toons and PVPing.

I got 16 outfit slots open per toon. Frequently I end up making new ones over top those 16 initial outfits as I play my characters.

My point (well, one was) if they put the amount of ingenuity and creativity into other parts of the game like they did into the outfits, this game would be unstoppable.
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OlBuzzard
05.22.2019 , 09:31 PM | #14
There are a number of things we can enjoy and celebrate:
1. Story driven quests and characters. While some would debate this endlessly in lieu of peaceably finding a place to thank those who work hard at providing what we DO have.

2. Hundreds of details through out the game that some of us understand and appreciate. Yeah this is a bit old fashion ... but then again .. ha ! I guess that's about where I fit in !
BTW... I did notice the dance style of the small group of people in the market area of the "Traitor amoung the Chiss". They were doing the "swim".
Funny thing is that there is an amazing resemblance between the Yavin 4 Jungle Fern and a large potted plant on the campus of Duke University (the gardens that are adjacent to it). I'm quite sure it's a coincidence ... but when I passed by not one ... but a third and a fourth .. I couldn't help but to smile at the remarkable likeness... right down to the size of the large pot that they are in.

3. Related to that: trying to design so many items... details.. outfits etc.. Yes I'm quite aware of those that are "reskinned". I might miss one or two ... but not that many. I enjoy doing 3-D modeling just for fun. So I see another aspect of the game. And I enjoy it !

4. Forums: They can be good .. and bad ! All of us get emotional at times. Lately for me a slightly different reason. But I do like trying to brain storm ideas. And who knows... maybe one day I'll actually come up with something that's worth while ! (OK ... maybe that's pushing it ! ) SORRY !

5. Companions: while we still have them. I'm certain that they will be around for a while yet. The question is: to what degree? For some players the companion is just something to put up with ... a necessary evil. And they have other goals in mind in the game. PvP ? Possibly ? But I wouldn't go thermal on the PvP players over it. (see #6) Other players might place too much emphasis on them. I personaly like the idea and how this game has manage them thus far... Well let's say for the most part. IMO WoW companions are worthless ! They're kind of on the other extreme. Room for improvement ? Oh YES... my stars yes! That's one of the reasons I make suggestions in that area from time to time. They do help make the game something MORE than the usual grind of MMO's.

6. PvP. No I don't do that part of the game any more. I use to in another game long ago. I go pretty good at it. No... never a top 10 % contender .. or anything like that. But in a group setting I could hold my own. I just wanted to go on record showing my support for those who do. And yes .. I have been dead serious about previous posts regarding PvP as a integral part of this game, or any other MMO for that matter.

7. The appearance tabs. Good idea actually. We can have a large number of appearances without swaping out armor all the time ... Nicely done !

8. An occasional appearance from a couple members of the team. Thanks to Eric (and others). Some games you never hear a word from anyone. Here's the game ... enjoy... or not . I just see this brief communication from time to time as a positive.

9. Strongholds: I LIKE them.. a LOT ! I don't buy as many as some. One of them I probably shouldn't have : Tatooine. Too bad I can't hire a realtor for this one ! But that is on me ! I do have my own suggestions in this area ..(no not a good place to bring that up here).. But they are fun and very useful.

Oh and there is more... so much more !

All of these are just my opinions ... I have no doubt that many will differ. I'm just glad to be back and hope the game has a great future for several more years to come !

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DarthSpuds
05.23.2019 , 01:06 AM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Lhancelot View Post
My point (well, one was) if they put the amount of ingenuity and creativity into other parts of the game like they did into the outfits, this game would be unstoppable.
Really?

Many of the outfits look like a stoned intern made them on a lazy Friday afternoon, and no one cared enough to check them before them going live the following Monday.

They've gone down the "let's have stupidly ridiculous shoulders like WoW does" route and have recently started to double down on it. If there is one thing that no game, ever, needs to take away from WoW it is the shoulders.

The outfit system is a barely adequately implemented, overly-monetised copy of LOTROs - and that's about it.


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Lhancelot
05.23.2019 , 04:31 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthSpuds View Post
Really?

Many of the outfits look like a stoned intern made them on a lazy Friday afternoon, and no one cared enough to check them before them going live the following Monday.

They've gone down the "let's have stupidly ridiculous shoulders like WoW does" route and have recently started to double down on it. If there is one thing that no game, ever, needs to take away from WoW it is the shoulders.

The outfit system is a barely adequately implemented, overly-monetised copy of LOTROs - and that's about it.


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I am all for dogging BW when they deserve it, but if they did anything right with SWTOR, it's the outfit system. Now, is it perfect, and do I personally enjoy every outfit? Nope.

But! This is a highly subjective topic, as what looks good to me may not look good to you.

For instance, I see tons of people with ugly/dumb looking outfits, however I bet if asked, they would say what they wear is appealing or enjoyable to them.

Nothing is perfect, the world is not black and white (yes there are many shades of grey in between) and I don't think every outfit is a home run.

Many outfits are really neat looking to me though, in fact since I logged in for the first time in months I got to see what outfits have come out since then and I see many nice new ones out that I never seen before.
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Lhancelot
05.23.2019 , 05:14 AM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by OlBuzzard View Post
2. Hundreds of details through out the game that some of us understand and appreciate. Yeah this is a bit old fashion ... but then again .. ha ! I guess that's about where I fit in !
BTW... I did notice the dance style of the small group of people in the market area of the "Traitor amoung the Chiss". They were doing the "swim".
SWTOR does have a real charm to it, which comes from the original game that launched 7 years ago what with all the nuances and sounds from the environment to the different worlds and chatter of all the NPCs as we move through the world.

Things like you mention above are some of the charming facets to SWTOR. The original devs that did all the groundwork for SWTOR really created a game that was unique in it's own right, even if they admittedly felt they needed to make SWTOR more WOW-like. I honestly do not see much resemblance between the two games, and think this point is overblown because it has come out that this was indeed the case.

If they were trying to re-create WOW, they failed miserably imo.

As for the newer devs, I hope they are finding ways to navigate through the old code effectively so they can fix the plethora of bugs that are crawling through SWTOR at this time. I don't think it's fair for these devs to get the blame for the technical problems that arise due to new launches having what seems to be a never-ending number of bugs that pop up every time they add new content to the game.

To further digress, blame ought to be placed on others, not the devs that have taken over the responsibility of trying to add new content to SWTOR.

I bet they came into this with little preparation to deal with what appears to be a true Frankensteinian-like monster of a game. With a patched together custom made engine along with who knows what else, I imagine no amount of schooling or training could prepare these newer game developers for what they ran into when they were hired on to add content to this game.

Taking a break from the game has really given me a sense of calmness about the state of the game. I actually wasn't trolling when I wrote this post, I genuinely want to read people's opinions on the good things SWTOR has, or even better what people think could be added to improve it.



And, yes! I actually do love playing Space Barbie.


Things to add to Outfits:


1. I see, they still have NO casual footwear yet... Why?! Please add beach footwear, sandals for casual outfits!

2. MORE HATS! Casual styled hats... more.

3. Jewelry kits for wrists, neck, ears, nose, fingers... I mean imagine all the styles of jewelry they could create!

4. Create some retro style outfits from our own styles on Earth! 70s bell-bottoms, fashion sneakers, track suits from the 70s/80s, 90s etc. These don't have to be exact replicas, but a heavy influence from these styles would be fun to wear.

5. More styles of sunglasses.

6. Prescription eyeglasses.

7. Fix the black hair color so that it is black with all hairstyles. (I realize they acknowledged this and plan to fix it. They told us it's just more difficult to fix than people realize, much like many of the bugs that have popped up in the game.) This appearance glitch annoys me to no end tbh because it limits what styles I can wear which sucks because I like black, especially black goth hair styles. That's one of my more petty whines about the game, but hey! I can't play a gothy looking character when the black is a pond scum blackish green.

8. As mentioned earlier by others, tattoos would be nice.

9. More facial options for some of the alien races like Twi'lek who have 1/3 the options humans got. Cyborgs need more options, Rattataki, many of the alien races actually.
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05.23.2019 , 06:42 AM | #18
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OlBuzzard
05.23.2019 , 08:36 AM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthSpuds View Post
Really?

Many of the outfits look like a stoned intern made them on a lazy Friday afternoon, and no one cared enough to check them before them going live the following Monday.

They've gone down the "let's have stupidly ridiculous shoulders like WoW does" route and have recently started to double down on it. If there is one thing that no game, ever, needs to take away from WoW it is the shoulders.

The outfit system is a barely adequately implemented, overly-monetised copy of LOTROs - and that's about it.


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Hey bud.. not trying to go sideways on ya .. BUT.. IMO this is why we MUST use the Equipment customization appearance section.

It's hard enough to get a drop that has any kind of real value to it ... but the "fashion" designs ...UGH. Republic is far worse than the Empire.

To quote Kira: " Have seen what the Sith are wearing? It's like every fashion designer in the galaxie joined the dark side" ... And she was RIGHT !

At any rate. Once I figured it out it comes in real handy !

OH BTW... anyone have any idea where I can find one of the "Hoth" heavy winter coats? (sorry I forget the exact name for it). The last time I was on Hoth with Lana and her normal outfit ... well I really don't have to give you all the details... right ?
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kodrac
05.23.2019 , 09:32 AM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by Lhancelot View Post
Why would I be kidding about that, the customization for player characters especially the amount of outfits available is amazing. My two favorite things on SWTOR is dressing up all my toons and PVPing.
Some people apparently don't get the joke that is Space Barbie. The humor, the self-deprecation... the injustice.
Quote: Originally Posted by aerockyul View Post
Id find it hard to believe this sort of thing goes on in the preferential treatment forum.