Dev Post AlexModny Posted March 31, 2014 Dev Post Share Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) Hello Warzone Aficionados! We are starting our pre-production (ideation stage, if you are into buzzwords) for the next Warzone and we want to get your ideas for a new Warzone! We have a few ideas (even got a few prototypes on the backburner) on what we would like to do and what we *think* you would like but we want to hear your ideas before we move forward with a design! Remember when you post, the more information the better. Layout pictures and descriptions always help, some of us are visual learners =P Think about and post your thoughts on how will the scoring work? What is the goal for each player? Will some players have different goals? How can players make a come-from-behind victory? Is this fun? The more questions you ask yourself about a design that you can answer and feel good about, the better the design. Please make sure you understand that this is not a vote. Even if there is a consensus on a specific idea that everyone wants that is no guarantee that we will develop it. Also there is no guarantee that we will develop an idea that is suggested. We want to gather ideas on what you want from the next warzone so we can make something ya'll want! Also please note that this Warzone will not be released Live during the current Road Map. Looking forward to reading what yall have in mind! Cheers! Edited March 31, 2014 by TaitWatson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycao Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasaaCypher Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 King of the HIll , hypergate with 1 node.. he who holds wins.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycao Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Please make sure you understand that this is not a vote. Even if there is a consensus of a specific idea that everyone wants that is no guarantee that we will develop it. Also this is no guarantee that we will develop an idea that is suggested. We want to gather ideas on what you want from the next warzone so we can make something yall want! I think this is my favorite part of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SithEBM-Reborn Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I think this is my favorite part of this thread. You noticed that too? Thankfully I am not the only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannsider Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 An arena toggle should be first priority.... pretty please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L-RANDLE Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I think this is my favorite part of this thread. My only question is did Musco troll us, or did they see the heat generation that thread caused? @ Alex how about you don't release another gear tier and decided whether bolster or PvP gear progression is better for PvP? And no, they don't work well together, even though you guys seem to think it does. Every time you raise the bolster floor, you nullify ANY PvP gear progression. If you guys do the right thing, then I would be willing to talk WZ options. Content don't mean much if the core design is fudged. And get rid of rng relics please. Regards, L-Randle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeLM Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Carrot on the stick and a completely misleading post. Feel free to contact me via PM and I will give you advice on how to improve PvP. Yeah I bet they're chomping at the bit to get your input after your three posts in under ten minutes where you stop just short of calling them liars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icebergy Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=643220 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Post EricMusco Posted March 31, 2014 Dev Post Share Posted March 31, 2014 I think this is my favorite part of this thread. I just wanted to comment quick on that line so it doesn't derail the thread too badly. That line is entirely my fault and something that Alex wanted to leave out. I promise you the purpose of this thread is to get your feedback on possible designs for the next Warzone. Our PvP team is really excited to see what ideas you can all come up with. No joke, I just left their pit and every one of them has this thread on their monitors, they are taking it seriously. It is the Community Manager in me that asked Alex to put that line there. I just tried to manage expectations a little there but I probably overdid it. Please, carry on with your ideas, the PvP team wants them This is a really cool chance to get your feedback right to the team! -eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeLM Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I forgot that actually reading a post, using common sense, and not automatically agreeing with a developer is a bad thing. It isn't. Knee-jerk cynicism and spouting off-topic nonsense is. What's also bad is when half the posts in the thread are yours because of all your angst about the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falloutgirl Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 At this point, what good is adding a new WZ, when the pvp population is dwindling daily. You pretty much killed your own game when you said "No" to the one thing that could keep it alive; cross server ques:mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I appreciate you asking Alex... My favorite map, going all the way back to beta, has always been Voidstar, I love the progression type map combined with the attack/defend mechanic. Since that's my favorite, here are my suggestions: • Fleet type setting (invade)• Attack/Defend mechanic• Less "guarding" would benefit ANY design - nobody joins a PvP queue hoping they get to guard• Single click objectives that don't require "guarding" afterwards• Less spread out objectives that encourage teamwork (again, similar to VS)• Huttball type "traps" in WZ's that aren't Huttball (player activated?) PLEASE give us more than a map a year Alex...the current rate of development is outrageously slow. Re-skin if necessary...we need variety, not an intricate story to accompany the WZ...just new maps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dego-harmonium Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I forgot that actually reading a post, using common sense, and not automatically agreeing with a developer is a bad thing. Considering ranked que's prolly account for a fraction of a percent of warzones why would they continue to invest in it? I'm shocked they did the arena/leaderboard thing TBH, aside from the pvp servers the community as whole has demonstrated it doesn't want to do ranked by how little its used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uber_the_Goober Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I'll take the same exact game styles, the same exact rule sets, but with new landscapes... That's simple, and it mixes things up nicely. Plus, you don't have to worry about implementing new mechanics nobody understands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannsider Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I appreciate you asking Alex... My favorite map, going all the way back to beta, has always been Voidstar, I love the progression type map combined with the attack/defend mechanic. Since that's my favorite, here are my suggestions: • Fleet type setting (invade) • Attack/Defend mechanic • Less "guarding" would benefit ANY design - nobody joins a PvP queue hoping they get to guard • Single click objectives that don't require "guarding" afterwards • Less spread out objectives that encourage teamwork (again, similar to VS) • Huttball type "traps" in WZ's that aren't Huttball (player activated?) PLEASE give us more than a map a year Alex...the current rate of development is outrageously slow. Re-skin if necessary...we need variety, not an intricate story to accompany the WZ...just new maps. Ive always loved voidstar and huttball... the rest meh especially hypergates I dont like that at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannsider Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I'll take the same exact game styles, the same exact rule sets, but with new landscapes... That's simple, and it mixes things up nicely. Plus, you don't have to worry about implementing new mechanics nobody understands. Another excellent idea freshening the visuals up would be great ie the denova one on tatooine would be cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I'll take the same exact game styles, the same exact rule sets, but with new landscapes... That's simple, and it mixes things up nicely. Plus, you don't have to worry about implementing new mechanics nobody understands. I've often thought this might be the best thing to do...learning new mechanics shouldn't be part of every new WZ. It's ok to reskin the existing ones to get some variety going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L-RANDLE Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Here are two threads I posted about core design issues. I am tired of trying to beat you guys over the head trying to explain this stuff needs to be addressed first, which means this should be your focus.. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=719106 http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=583880 Make the game 100% enjoyable before you add more fluff to this crap cake... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uber_the_Goober Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I find this to be odd. You're asking for ideas and you want to interact, yet you're like, "Well we can't guarantee that your interaction with us will change or do much." Bizarre really. This isn't confusing, it's disheartening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaingSkiratapwns Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Sorry Bioware, but this too little, way too late. There hasn't been a new wz in years, unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icestar Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 It might be hard to create but I would like to have a warzone on a sail barge above a sarlacc. Then you have to be careful not to fall off and fight players, could be a very cool thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewkrew Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Hello Warzone Aficionados! We are starting our pre-production (ideation stage, if you are into buzzwords) for the next Warzone and we want to get your ideas for a new Warzone! We have a few ideas (even got a few prototypes on the backburner) on what we would like to do and what we *think* you would like but we want to hear your ideas before we move forward with a design! Remember when you post, the more information the better. Layout pictures and descriptions always help, some of us are visual learners =P Think about and post your thoughts on how will the scoring work? What is the goal for each player? Will some players have different goals? How can players make a come-from-behind victory? Is this fun? The more questions you ask yourself about a design that you can answer and feel good about, the better the design. Please make sure you understand that this is not a vote. Even if there is a consensus on a specific idea that everyone wants that is no guarantee that we will develop it. Also there is no guarantee that we will develop an idea that is suggested. We want to gather ideas on what you want from the next warzone so we can make something ya'll want! Also please note that this Warzone will not be released Live during the current Road Map. Looking forward to reading what yall have in mind! Cheers! We have no plans at this time to give you ideas about a Warzone. Hows it feel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaingSkiratapwns Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I wouldn't even bother wishing him luck. He already deleted my post. I guess the truth hurts too much. We've already stated what we really want and they don't give a damn. That's because Bioware knows its failing, but doesn't want people pointing it out and making an issue of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Projawa Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Yeah I bet they're chomping at the bit to get your input after your three posts in under ten minutes where you stop just short of calling them liars. When will you start streaming again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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