Zez-Kai-Ell Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 like title says... anyone else can confirm? cause am still quite sometimes stun slow etc while shroud is active Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnightRider Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 (edited) Not sure if this is an intended mechanic of the Council on Nightmare, but I have log proof of being hit by a force attack with Resilience up. I'm gonna post in the bug report forums to see if I can get Tait to respond so I know if this is an intended mechanic of the fight on Nightmare or if it legitimately is still bugged. 21:14:12.536 Happyshadow activates Resilience. 21:14:12.536 Happyshadow gains Resilience. 21:14:12.574 Happyshadow's Shadow Strike hits Dread Master Bestia for 4689 energy damage, causing 4689 threat. 21:14:13.698 Happyshadow activates Project. 21:14:13.698 Happyshadow spends 16 Force. 21:14:13.699 Happyshadow loses Circling Shadows. 21:14:13.699 Happyshadow gains Breaching Shadows. 21:14:13.700 Happyshadow's Shadow Technique critically hits Dread Master Bestia for 1698* internal damage, causing 1698 threat! 21:14:14.103 Happyshadow's Project critically hits Dread Master Bestia for 5763* kinetic damage, causing 5763 threat! 21:14:14.217 Mudslide's Slow-release Medpac heals Happyshadow for 1590, causing 715 threat. 21:14:14.217 Happyshadow gains Primary Surge. 21:14:14.391 Happyshadow's Project hits Dread Master Bestia for 1281 kinetic damage, causing 1281 threat. 21:14:14.520 Dread Master Tyrans's Shock hits Happyshadow for 2456 energy damage, causing 2456 threat. 21:14:14.520 Dread Master Tyrans's Shock hits Happyshadow for 2456 energy damage, causing 2456 threat. 21:14:14.521 Dread Master Tyrans's Shock hits Happyshadow for 2456 energy damage, causing 2456 threat. 21:14:14.521 Dread Master Tyrans's Shock hits Happyshadow for 2456 energy damage, causing 2456 threat. 21:14:15.119 Happyshadow activates Clairvoyant Strike. 21:14:15.119 Happyshadow spends 23 Force. 21:14:15.120 Happyshadow gains Circling Shadows. 21:14:15.308 Happyshadow's Clairvoyant Strike hits Dread Master Bestia for 1416 energy damage, causing 1416 threat. 21:14:15.591 Happyshadow's Shadow Technique hits Dread Master Bestia for 1056 internal damage, causing 1056 threat. 21:14:15.591 Happyshadow's Clairvoyant Strike hits Dread Master Bestia for 1306 energy damage, causing 1306 threat. 21:14:15.737 Happyshadow loses Resilience. Edited June 17, 2014 by MKnightRider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelanis Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 (edited) Not sure if this is an intended mechanic of the Council on Nightmare, but I have log proof of being hit by a force attack with Resilience up. I'm gonna post in the bug report forums to see if I can get Tait to respond so I know if this is an intended mechanic of the fight on Nightmare or if it legitimately is still bugged. 21:14:12.536 Happyshadow activates Resilience. 21:14:12.536 Happyshadow gains Resilience. 21:14:12.574 Happyshadow's Shadow Strike hits Dread Master Bestia for 4689 energy damage, causing 4689 threat. 21:14:13.698 Happyshadow activates Project. 21:14:13.698 Happyshadow spends 16 Force. 21:14:13.699 Happyshadow loses Circling Shadows. 21:14:13.699 Happyshadow gains Breaching Shadows. 21:14:13.700 Happyshadow's Shadow Technique critically hits Dread Master Bestia for 1698* internal damage, causing 1698 threat! 21:14:14.103 Happyshadow's Project critically hits Dread Master Bestia for 5763* kinetic damage, causing 5763 threat! 21:14:14.217 Mudslide's Slow-release Medpac heals Happyshadow for 1590, causing 715 threat. 21:14:14.217 Happyshadow gains Primary Surge. 21:14:14.391 Happyshadow's Project hits Dread Master Bestia for 1281 kinetic damage, causing 1281 threat. 21:14:14.520 Dread Master Tyrans's Shock hits Happyshadow for 2456 energy damage, causing 2456 threat. 21:14:14.520 Dread Master Tyrans's Shock hits Happyshadow for 2456 energy damage, causing 2456 threat. 21:14:14.521 Dread Master Tyrans's Shock hits Happyshadow for 2456 energy damage, causing 2456 threat. 21:14:14.521 Dread Master Tyrans's Shock hits Happyshadow for 2456 energy damage, causing 2456 threat. 21:14:15.119 Happyshadow activates Clairvoyant Strike. 21:14:15.119 Happyshadow spends 23 Force. 21:14:15.120 Happyshadow gains Circling Shadows. 21:14:15.308 Happyshadow's Clairvoyant Strike hits Dread Master Bestia for 1416 energy damage, causing 1416 threat. 21:14:15.591 Happyshadow's Shadow Technique hits Dread Master Bestia for 1056 internal damage, causing 1056 threat. 21:14:15.591 Happyshadow's Clairvoyant Strike hits Dread Master Bestia for 1306 energy damage, causing 1306 threat. 21:14:15.737 Happyshadow loses Resilience. Unfortunately, this is almost certainly working as intended. Tyrans' shock is actually a ranged attack in Dread Palace. I found this out the hard way when first tanking him. If you look at the damage type (Parsec displays that for you), I'm almost 100% sure that it's going to be a ranged attack, as that's what it is in the first fight with him (in HM at least). It's very frustrating, and confusing, that it shares a name with the Inquisitor version of the attack that is actually a Force attack. Edited June 17, 2014 by Aelanis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zez-Kai-Ell Posted June 17, 2014 Author Share Posted June 17, 2014 (edited) Unfortunately, this is almost certainly working as intended. Tyrans' shock is actually a ranged attack in Dread Palace. I found this out the hard way when first tanking him. If you look at the damage type (Parsec displays that for you), I'm almost 100% sure that it's going to be a ranged attack, as that's what it is in the first fight with him (in HM at least). It's very frustrating, and confusing, that it shares a name with the Inquisitor version of the attack that is actually a Force attack. well to me was during wz.. which is really annoying... being stun on acid... serious So that is why am certain is still bugged but ofc would be nice a word from bw about situation, and if its really a boss mechanic on Dread Palace, not that i am saying it isn't Edited June 17, 2014 by Zez-Kai-Ell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnightRider Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Unfortunately, this is almost certainly working as intended. Tyrans' shock is actually a ranged attack in Dread Palace. I found this out the hard way when first tanking him. If you look at the damage type (Parsec displays that for you), I'm almost 100% sure that it's going to be a ranged attack, as that's what it is in the first fight with him (in HM at least). It's very frustrating, and confusing, that it shares a name with the Inquisitor version of the attack that is actually a Force attack. Makes so much sense.... well then I guess nevermind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelanis Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Just to confirm that it is indeed a ranged attack during the first fight: 23:02:54.621 Ellendra's Project hits Dread Master Tyrans for 857 kinetic damage, causing 1972 threat. 23:02:54.796 Ellendra parries Dread Master Tyrans's Shock, causing 1 threat. 23:02:54.796 Ellendra parries Dread Master Tyrans's Shock, causing 1 threat. 23:02:54.797 Ellendra parries Dread Master Tyrans's Shock, causing 1 threat. 23:02:54.797 Dread Master Tyrans's Shock hits Ellendra for 2820 energy damage, causing 2820 threat. 23:02:55.360 Ellendra activates Slow Time. Looking back at that, that's some pretty spectacular mitigation considering I wasn't using Deflection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xX-Archangel-Xx Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 is bugged, and not only in pve, in pvp very often they can dot me with my shroud up, and this is a nice sh*it if u ask me, cuz no shroud, no cloack = death Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leafy_Bug Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) I haven't had any failures in PVP or PVE since the so called fix. This ability is easy to test and I will test it at Brontes where oftentimes I died because 'Irisa activates resilienice, bla bla bal 56k dmg bla bla'. Edited July 10, 2014 by Leafy_Bug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adovir Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I haven't had any failures in PVP or PVE since the so called fix. This ability is easy to test and I will test it at Brontes where oftentimes I died because 'Irisa activates resilienice, bla bla bal 56k dmg bla bla'. Irisa!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbgood Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 (edited) yesterday it happened to me that force shroud failed somehow. it was the only fail i can recall since the fix. i wanna share the combat log because i don't understand how that could happen, maybe it was just server lag as things went quite fast. strangely combat looks little different on torparse than it looks when opening the log with parsec. for those of you who dont speak german i wanna translate the terms used in the log: Trauma (PvP)= the bolster buff Sprinten = Sprint Betäubt = Stunned Verdunklung = Blackout Tarnung = Stealth Schattenschutz = Shadow's Respite Spieß = Spike Säureklinge = Acid Blade Vergiftet (Tech) = Poisoned (Tech) Gelähmt = Rooted (i think) Versteckter Schlag = Hidden Strike Macht des Willens = Force of Will Entladung = Discharge Brodelnde Ladung = Surging Charge Zurichten = Maul Klappmesser = Shiv Belastbarkeit = Force Shroud Meucheln = Assasinate Machttarnung = Force Cloak Machttempo = Force Speed Deserteure erkennen = that PvP debuff that will kick you out of the WZ if it runs out so i was facing two deception assasins and one concealment operative who took me out of stealth. at 02:52:32.927 i got hit by hidden strike which applied the acid blade dot. at 02:52:35.791 i activate force shroud at 02:52:35.792 i loose the poisoned (tech) effect at 02:52:35.972 i gain the poisoned (tech) effect again somehow at 02:52:36.774 i got hit by hidden strike for 0 damage (resisted) and get the acid blade dot while shroud is up. the next few seconds acid blade is ticking for 0 damage while force shroud is up at 02:52:41.123 i got hit by the acid blade dot again at 02:52:42.155 the last tick of acid blade kills me please note that i was skilled kinetic combat so force shroud lasted 5 seconds. i remember seeing the acid blade icon as a debuff while shroud was up what never happened before. the 5th tick of acid blade took me out of stealth again as i force cloaked while shroud was up. i'm aware this isnt a classic force shroud fail as i didn't receive dmg while shroud was up, but that acid blade stuff just shouldn't have happened afaik. Edited July 15, 2014 by johnbgood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XisscVekno Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 It's really not bugged, the problem is the way it's coded. It can't reach 100%... ever. I'm not sure what algorithm they use for it, but before it would fail more than it does now. I think I've had 1 failure since the fix and I play both a DPS and Tank shadow/assassins. I remember one of the combat team devs talking about this awhile ago, but I can't remember when or I'd even try to find you the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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