Darth_Solrac Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Sidious: Obviously a Sorc. Cream of our crop. Vader: Sith Warrior obviously, but Marauder or Jugg? Tyrannus: Inquisitor, right? Maul: Seems like an Assassin, but could be a Warrior too? Kenobi: Guardian or Sent? Same question for Jinn. Luke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmthethird Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 (edited) Sidious: Obviously a Sorc. Cream of our crop. Vader: Sith Warrior obviously, but Marauder or Jugg? Tyrannus: Inquisitor, right? Maul: Seems like an Assassin, but could be a Warrior too? Kenobi: Guardian or Sent? Same question for Jinn. Luke? darth vader- i would have as a marauder with one saber darth maul- i would have as a juggernaut dps obi-wan- seemed like a tank while others were dps around him so guardian tyrannus- no idea luke- has no class, he is npc god like, like yoda imo Edited April 27, 2012 by grandmthethird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revelationjp Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 It's an interesting question, and could make for a good discussion. Examples like Yoda, Tyranus, and Maul are tough to define. Those 3 don't really fit into any of the game classes. Even though the BW devs said they modeled the sith assassin after Maul, it doesn't really fit other than he uses a DB lightsaber. He seems much more of a warrior than a stealth type. Tyranus throws a lot of lightning around, yet he was, according to lore, an expert duelist who even invented his own lightsaber form. Most would probably say Yoda was a Sage, yet he was reportedly one of the best examplars with a lightsaber. Luke, also, is tough. I think that the game idea of pushing a character more towards force using or lighsaber wielding, tanking or DPS'ing, is, of course, just for balancing and game mechanics and not to try and match up to SW characters per se anyway. But I'm at work and bored, and I love discussing SW, so, any port in a storm, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Solrac Posted April 27, 2012 Author Share Posted April 27, 2012 It's an interesting question, and could make for a good discussion. Examples like Yoda, Tyranus, and Maul are tough to define. Those 3 don't really fit into any of the game classes. Even though the BW devs said they modeled the sith assassin after Maul, it doesn't really fit other than he uses a DB lightsaber. He seems much more of a warrior than a stealth type. Tyranus throws a lot of lightning around, yet he was, according to lore, an expert duelist who even invented his own lightsaber form. Most would probably say Yoda was a Sage, yet he was reportedly one of the best examplars with a lightsaber. Luke, also, is tough. I think that the game idea of pushing a character more towards force using or lighsaber wielding, tanking or DPS'ing, is, of course, just for balancing and game mechanics and not to try and match up to SW characters per se anyway. But I'm at work and bored, and I love discussing SW, so, any port in a storm, right? LOL indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andronicos Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 (edited) Palpatine: Clearly a DPS sorcerer, that whole class is built on his image! Vader: Is stated he uses Shien form so Vigilance (or wtv the sith name is) Jugg Maul: Assasin, probably on the tank tree too so he can have that long fight with Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon Kenobi: I would say Obi-Wan is a shadow that uses a single lightsaber, he has stealth, is specifically assigned investigation missions, and can fight in a dress Dooku: Sith Warrior, he uses lightning once true, but even Obi-Wan was able to deflect it harmlessly so is clearly not his strong suit, uses force choke, force push and as a master duellist being a sorcerer who barely knows what a lightsaber is let alone how to use it, does not suits him at all. Edited April 27, 2012 by Andronicos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Solrac Posted April 27, 2012 Author Share Posted April 27, 2012 Dooku: Sith Warrior, he uses lightning once true, but even Obi-Wan was able to deflect it harmlessly so is clearly not his strong suit, uses force choke, force push and as a master duellist being a sorcerer who barely knows what a lightsaber is let alone how to use it, does not suits him at all. -Facepalm- You really couldn't be more wrong. Just cuz Sorcerers prefer the Force does obviously NOT mean they dunno how to use a lightsaber. The proof? Sidious. He mastered every lightsaber form. He cut down 5 Jedi Council Masters in mere seconds. He was said to have been just a red flash. Sorcerers are also most likely to know & master Niman & Makashi fyi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Sidious: Obviously a Sorc. Cream of our crop. Vader: Sith Warrior obviously, but Marauder or Jugg? Tyrannus: Inquisitor, right? Maul: Seems like an Assassin, but could be a Warrior too? Kenobi: Guardian or Sent? Same question for Jinn. Luke? Sidious: Sorceror DPS Vader: Juggernaut Tank Tyrannus: Juggernaut DPS Maul: Assasin Tank Kenobi: Guardian tank Luke: Guardian DPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Solrac Posted April 27, 2012 Author Share Posted April 27, 2012 (edited) Aint Tyrannus just too old to be a Sith Warrior....I mean.....yea. Also, he was the official political leader of the CIS. Leads me to believe he was an Inquisitor. Obviously not an assassin, so process of elimination says he's a Sorcerer, be it not a good one. Also says Makashi, what he mastered. Tis a Sorcerer main lightsaber style. Edited April 27, 2012 by Darth_Solrac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeC Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Sidious - Sorcerer Vader - Jug Anakin - Guardian Yoda-Sage Kenobi - Guardian Luke-Guardian Maul-Assassin Mace Windu - Sentinel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaczuszka Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Darth vader got to be a jug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andronicos Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 -Facepalm- You really couldn't be more wrong. Just cuz Sorcerers prefer the Force does obviously NOT mean they dunno how to use a lightsaber. The proof? Sidious. He mastered every lightsaber form. He cut down 5 Jedi Council Masters in mere seconds. He was said to have been just a red flash. Sorcerers are also most likely to know & master Niman & Makashi fyi. I wish you where right, honest, but tell me how many lightsaber related skills you get as a sorcerer? The very reason why most Jedi Consular's use Niman is because it is the easiest of the lightsaber forms, http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Form_VI:_Niman I don't know where you get the idea sorcerer's use Makashi but I can't find any proof of that so I will just disregard it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karkais Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 (edited) I wish you where right, honest, but tell me how many lightsaber related skills you get as a sorcerer? Two. One with two slashes(the basic forcegaining attack), one with three. No lightsaber form whatsoever. Inquisitors can parry blaster bolts with lightsaber just like everyone else though. (its just animation) Some of the choices are obvious though: Sidious: dps sith sorcerer (the class is based on him) Maul: Sith Assassin (the class is based on him basically) Vader: Sith Juggernaut (class is based on him, the sluggish but powerful attacks of juggernaut are all vader) Luke: Shii-Cho form Jedi guardian Tyranus: Sith sorcerer Yoda: Jedi sage True sentinels/marauders are pretty rare imo, theres only Anakin in his pre-vader form imo. Edited April 27, 2012 by Karkais Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayla_Felana Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 He cut down 5 Jedi Council Masters in mere seconds. He fought four, he killed Saesee-Tiin, Agen Kolar then Kit Fisto and then got his *** kicked by WIndu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Solrac Posted April 27, 2012 Author Share Posted April 27, 2012 (edited) I wish you where right, honest, but tell me how many lightsaber related skills you get as a sorcerer? The very reason why most Jedi Consular's use Niman is because it is the easiest of the lightsaber forms, http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Form_VI:_Niman I don't know where you get the idea sorcerer's use Makashi but I can't find any proof of that so I will just disregard it. LOL really? That's the best you can do? Movies are mostly cannon, they obviously trump these game mechanics either way. Makashi & Niman would be a Sorcerer's preferred form. If you would actually think bout it, it just makes sense. Edited April 28, 2012 by Darth_Solrac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Solrac Posted April 27, 2012 Author Share Posted April 27, 2012 He fought four, he killed Saesee-Tiin, Agen Kolar then Kit Fisto and then got his *** kicked by WIndu. LOL like Windu, you fell for Sidious' ploy too huh. Actually not really surprising. He never got anything kicked. He outsmarted, & ultimately, defeated Windu with his lightning. That's it, & it is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andronicos Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 (edited) LOL really? That's the best you can do? Movies are mostly cannon, they obviously trump these game mechanics either way. Makashi & Niman would be a Sorcere's preferred form. If you would actually think bout it, it just makes sense. Huh? let's think for a second.... Makashi specializes in lightsaber COMBAT, what do Sith warriors specialize in? Think about it... Lightsaber COMBAT Makashi is currently not in the game period, is not some secret form the Sorcerer is using in your mind There are simply no classes in the movies, Palpatine is a master of lightsaber combat because Sith are masters of lightsaber combat, there are no sorcerers or warriors in the movies, it's fun to try to "assign" a class to the movie characters but it doesn't works the other way around just because you "share" a class with Palpatine doesn't mean the sorcerer does everything Palpatine does because then there would be no balance gameplay wise Edited April 27, 2012 by Andronicos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 (edited) LOL like Windu, you fell for Sidious' ploy too huh. Actually not really surprising. He never got anything kicked. He outsmarted, & ultimately, defeated Windu with his lightning. That's it, & it is what it is. He legitimately lost the lightsaber duel, after that though when he was on the floor yes he was faking to try and convert Anakin. But Palpatine did lose the lightsaber duel. Edited April 27, 2012 by Wolfninjajedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamuel Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Palpatine: Clearly a DPS sorcerer, that whole class is built on his image! Vader: Is stated he uses Shien form so Vigilance (or wtv the sith name is) Jugg Maul: Assasin, probably on the tank tree too so he can have that long fight with Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon Kenobi: I would say Obi-Wan is a shadow that uses a single lightsaber, he has stealth, is specifically assigned investigation missions, and can fight in a dress Dooku: Sith Warrior, he uses lightning once true, but even Obi-Wan was able to deflect it harmlessly so is clearly not his strong suit, uses force choke, force push and as a master duellist being a sorcerer who barely knows what a lightsaber is let alone how to use it, does not suits him at all. the problem is Maul has a double saber, yet uses it way more than force, making him also warrior material...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Eminok Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 the problem is Maul has a double saber, yet uses it way more than force, making him also warrior material...... The assassin doesn't use the force too much either.... the assassin is more like Starkiller.... combining force and saber to ultimately defeat his enemies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RixoFutu Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Darth Maul was assassin in first place. It was his purpose in the end, assassin and nothing more, just a tool. He was skilled with lightsaber but he can use force very well in the right moment - push on Obi-wan on Naboo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonick Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Sidious: Obviously a Sorc. Cream of our crop. Vader: Sith Warrior obviously, but Marauder or Jugg? Tyrannus: Inquisitor, right? Maul: Seems like an Assassin, but could be a Warrior too? Kenobi: Guardian or Sent? Same question for Jinn. Luke? Better to just class movie characters by the proper lore "classes" but oh well Sidious was one of the primary inspirations for inquisitors, sorcerers specifically Vader was the inspiration for Juggernaut so... Tyrannus, he is a bit of a schemer and plotter so yea inquisitor Maul is way more of a warrior than an inquisitor so I'd say he's a Marauder (which is why I think marauders should have had the saberstaff) Kenobi, well, he specialized in ataru so that would be a sentinel. Qui-gon, this is where the game classes really make it hard, Qui-gon was obviously a good swordsman, but his philosophies and attuenment to the force is more like a consular. Luke, as he is in the movies he doesn't really fit any of the classes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToEasy Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Sidious: Obviously a Sorc. Cream of our crop. Vader: Sith Warrior obviously, but Marauder or Jugg? Tyrannus: Inquisitor, right? Maul: Seems like an Assassin, but could be a Warrior too? Kenobi: Guardian or Sent? Same question for Jinn. Luke? For Kenobi he is a guardian. He uses the soresu form so he would be on the tanking side of the guardian. Vader: He is a jugg Tyrannus: He is a good duelist but he probably fits the inquisitor Maul: I would say Marauder except with a doublebladed lightsaber Qui-gon: Maybe a sentinal Luke: I would say a guardian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KorinHyvek Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 (edited) Let's get the obvious ones out of the way, first. Vader: Vengeance Juggernaught Palpatine: Sorceror who happens to be an excellent lightsaber duelist (For the record, the question of wether he allowed Windu to win or was truly beaten by him is ambiguous in the film. The Novel suggests Sidious allowed Windu to win, while Samuel L. Jackson claims Mace really did beat Palpatine) Obi-wan: Jedi Guardian with Defense specialization. He used Ataru in TPM like his master, but after Maul demonstrated the downsides to the form, he switched to Soresu and used that for the rest of his life. Keep in mind, though that Soresu is built on wearing the opponent down until they make a mistake, not truly "tanking" as the game represents. Luke: Like Vader, Luke is a Djem So (A variant form of Shien. Or maybe Shien is a variant form of Djem So. The debate rages on) specialist, so he'd be a Jedi Guardian with the middle tree specialization, whatever that is. Qui-gon: Ataru user who seemed to be, "A good offense is the best defense". Probably single saber sentinel. Now the more complicated cases. Darth Maul: Double Bladed lightsaber aside, he used Juyo as his lightsaber form, and his style based around quick, hard hitting strikes seems more like a Marauder than an assassin to me. Dooku: The assassin combat style, if it allowed Makashi, actually fits him pretty well. He uses force based attacks a lot more than a Marauder or Juggernaught does, but he was also one of the greatest lightsaber duelists of his time. Yoda: Like Sidious, he's a consular who happens to be one of the most ****** lightsaber wielders ever. New character: Without creating a new class, what would you classify Padme and Leia as? Edited April 28, 2012 by KorinHyvek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datamonger Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 New character: Without creating a new class, what would you classify Padme and Leia as? Class: Royalty Skill Tree: Politician Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmthethird Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 New character: Without creating a new class, what would you classify Padme and Leia as? i'd say they are both smugglers in combat, but not in lifestyle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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