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Definately Darth Sidious and i bet most of players will agree with me.. He was super talanted force user. Sometimes u get feeling he had unlimted force on disposal...

 

Like he is Dark side actually...

 

Along with that when u combine saber skills, force powers , cunning and agression he was most feared and powerfull being in galaxy ever. - at least from my point of view

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Sidious is most powerful sith and luke:

 

“Yoda went after Palpatine in the empty Senate chamber, but could not defeat the most powerful Sith Lord in history.”(The New Essential Chronology, page 84 )

 

The Emperor had known it would be thus, of course [that the Rebel Alliance would be troublesome]; the resistance had not been a surprise to him. The Emperor was completely in concert with the dark side of the Force. He was the most powerful Sith who had ever existed.” (Death Star, page 76)

 

“Vader imagined the power that could be his if he crushed Palpatine and established his own rule over the Empire. But first, he would need his own apprentice. By himself, he could not hope to defeat the most powerful Sith Lord the galaxy had ever known.” (Vader: the Ultimate Guide, page 19)

 

"Palpatine has spent decades studying the most arcane and esoteric Jedi disciplines. It is believed that he has mastered nearly all the known powers, previously unknown powers, and devises new ones at his pleasure"-- The Dark Empire Sourcebook.

 

“[The Galactic Emperor] had succeeded where all others failed in taming the Dark Side. He would journey across the universe, spreading the shadow of his rule, blotting out the stars themselves, and taking his Dark Rule to other helpless galaxies.”-- The Dark Side Sourcebook.

 

”Beyond the vision of the Jedi Knights, somewhere within the darkness, the greatest master of evil ever to use Sith power bides his time.”-- The Complete Visual Dictionary.

 

"The Sith Order, in hiding for a millennium, had awaited the birth of one who was powerful enough to return the Order to prominence. Darth Sidious was the fulfillment of that prophecy, capable of exacting the Sith's revenge on the Jedi for having nearly eradicated the practitioners of the dark side of the Force." -- the Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia.

 

"Only Palpatine has been able to spread his darkness completely and totally over an entire galaxy. What has proven to be the lasting genius of Palpatine as Emperor is his devotion to collecting all the knowledge of the Dark Side that he can, as well as what Light Side information he can corrupt and preserve. He is no more altruistic than any other, but his newfound immortality has given him the patience that all before him have lacked."

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he was lying also did not even destroyed sidious vader did.

 

Highly doubt it.

 

Vader wanted Luke to join him.. to uh.. defeat the Emperor? So they could rule the galaxy as father and son?

 

No?

 

Not to mention Luke survived the emperor's force lighting for quite a long time.. considering mace flew out the window in like 3 seconds.

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Highly doubt it.

 

Vader wanted Luke to join him.. to uh.. defeat the Emperor? So they could rule the galaxy as father and son?

 

No?

 

Not to mention Luke survived the emperor's force lighting for quite a long time.. considering mace flew out the window in like 3 seconds.

 

he said luke would destroy the emperor which luke never did.

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This is a pretty good debate, because, honestly there's no way to know. Power comes in many forms.

 

You could say Starkiller (Galen Marek) but then you could say his Force powers are merely the result of the extreme, it doesn't make him the most powerful. Someone could still manipulate him to their will, such as Vader did successfully. So does that make Vader more powerful?

 

Starkiller fights Vader twice but doesn't slay him, but Luke does defeat him so is Luke more powerful then Starkiller? A matter of interpretation as Obi-wan would say 'from a certain point of view'.

 

Revan was powerful, extremely powerful. He defeated so many Mandalorians, so many Jedi, and so many Sith. He was both a Dark Lord of the Sith, and a Jedi Master. He understood the Force better then anyone having come back form darkness and having survived it.

 

He went to Dromund Kaas, slew a powerful dark council member with little effort, and then after being captured held the Sith Emperor at bay for 300 years as around the time of the Revan novel the empire was already planning to launch its first assault.

 

However some could argue he was just destined for greatness, not necessarily the most powerful but one of the most effective Force users out there who's actions were just as galaxy shape changing as Anakin or Cade Skywalkers.

 

Then there's Cade himself, the first person who figures out how to bring someone back from the dead via the Force, something that Anakin wanted to learn from Sidious but Palpating had never learned it from Plagueis. Cade brings several back from the dead, saves them, not wanting to lose anyone like his great great grandfather. He is also a powerful Jedi, even uses Force lightning, even powerful enough to 'fake' becoming Sith in Darth Krayts Empire.

 

However even the most powerful abilities can be turned against their origins. Krayt discovers how to come back from the dead and does so with a renewed body when Darth Wyyrlock betrays him, he then kills Wyyrlock taking back his empire and is only defeated after Cade seemingly slays Krayts self healing body and then has to run his ship with krayts body aboard into a nearby star to make sure Krayt stays dead.

 

Then there's Anakin Skywalker himself who would have been the most powerful Jedi who ever lived if he had not betrayed the Republic and the Order, if Palpatine hadn't twisted him to his will. As Lucas said when Anakin is decimated by Obi-wan in their duel on Mustafar and subsequently put into a cybernetic suit, he looses about half of his power and is perhaps eighty percent as powerful as the Emperor, had he not been damaged so badly he would have been twice as powerful as any Sith, any Jedi. That and there was also a mental block it has been discussed that kept him from discovering his true potential cyborg or that his grief, self-loathing had him stuck in what he thought was as far as he could go if he could have focused and channeled the Force through him he may have been still able to reach his full potential but regret took hold as dark as he was as evil as he had become he still regretted his actions for twenty years and was always looking for a way to destroy Palpatine. Whether because he wanted to rule the Empire or use that one act to redeem his actions by destroying the monster that created his own monstrosity is unknown. However it so happens that he does do it in Return of the Jedi as he returns to the Light and is a Jedi again for the brief time period between Palpatines death and his own where he tells Luke he was right. He is a Jedi again. (hence why its called Return of the Jedi as Luke is just becoming a Jedi not returning as a Jedi so the title wouldn't be about him).

 

All in all each character you could list did something great, whether for good or evil, in the Force. Arguing who was the most powerful by pointing out their specific acts is fine except that just because Starkiller could Force push ten people at a time doesn't mean he's more powerful then the puppet who manipulates and pulls his strings as an example.

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Yoda.

 

Anyone that can manage to live so many centuries talking like he did without being mocked constantly has to have some amazing powers.

 

Not to mention the ability to limp around and claim disability allowance while also being able to jump around like a frog on speed.

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In all seriousness, those encyclopedias are hardly a source as most only take the films into accounts.

 

Its probably either the Sith Emperor (who I personally think is Palpatine as the Emperor is immortal age-wise)...

 

The JK doesn't kill the Emperor, just a body of his.

 

 

or Luke later on in the novels at his prime

or Darth Plagius (don't even go there with the whole killed in his sleep thing...he was sleeping...doesn't count)

or maybe even some of the original Rakata.

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he said luke would destroy the emperor which luke never did.

 

Actually, Luke did. It was his belief in the good in his father and love for him that turned Vader and caused him to do what he did. So in essences, if not for Luke, that would never had happened. Luke did defeat him, but not in a physical way or with the Force.

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Total package? Kyle Katarn. There's a reason Katarn is slang for ****** in Star Wars; Kyle is that reason.

 

In terms of raw Force potential? Kyp Durron or Ulic Qel-Droma. It's hard to judge, but they're both acknowledged as having the most potential by People Who Should Know.

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It would be Wedge Antilles and Lando and the technology they wielded, which is enough to bring balance to the force by destroying the most powerful dark side and light side users.

 

The Death Star Explosion would have taken all 3 out simotaneously.

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Sidious is most powerful sith and luke:

 

“Yoda went after Palpatine in the empty Senate chamber, but could not defeat the most powerful Sith Lord in history.”(The New Essential Chronology, page 84 )

 

I find that a bit unfair actually, they fought on Sidious' homefield sort of speak, it was crawling with Palpatine's loyal soldiers around.

Had they been fighting in a Rebel controlled base I think Yoda would have re-engagded after he fell off the "platform". And Sidious would probably been trying to get out of there. Yoda only had so much time until Palpatine's minions would get there and interfere.

I'm not claiming Yoda was stronger or would have beeten him on his "homecourt", but it was a draw and Yoda had to leave before Palpatines soldiers arrived, and they did shortly after the fight, he probably sensed it.

 

Also Luke was a wimp who got a crashcourse from Yoda, Since Lucas haven't written any of the EU stuff EU doesn't count ;)

 

Like Lucas said in the 60 minutes interview when they asked if he would make episode 7-9. "There is no episode 7, and never will be". Can't remember word for word, but he made it quite clear that it had never ever been intended to be more that 6 episodes, it was 6 episodes from the beginning, he just had to do 4-6 first for technological reasons.

 

So Star Wars is episodes 1-6, all else is just "unofficial" or "Hey, this could make me more money, so sure I'll approve a licence".

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