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Slafer
10.07.2018 , 03:08 AM | #1
was wondering if anyone could tell me what a could rotation is for a deception assassin as I am still learning the game
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LudhaninRolgge
10.07.2018 , 07:50 AM | #2
There's not set rotation, but a priority system.

The simple ways is Discharge at 3 stacks > Ball Lightning > Assassinate > Maul (under duplicity)> Voltaic Slash > Saber Strike.
This is a simple version and there's a little more depth to it in reality, but since you're still learning the game it's best you master the basics before diving into the little trics.

A few things to note :
- Never ever use Maul without Duplicity. It costs almost half your force bar and is not sustainable.
- Maintain your stacks of Voltage at all cost. They last 15" so it should be too difficult, but maintaining them is primordial to building Discharge stacks with Ball Lightning.
- Use Force Cloak to chop 1' off of Recklessness CD

If you want to dive deeply in Deception, there's a guide on Dulfy. It's a tiny bit outdated, but most of it hasn't changed, just some details
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LudhaninRolgge
10.07.2018 , 05:19 PM | #3
I forgot Reaping Strike which comes between Assassinate and Maul
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10.15.2018 , 10:06 AM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by LudhaninRolgge View Post
There's not set rotation, but a priority system.

The simple ways is Discharge at 3 stacks > Ball Lightning > Assassinate > Maul (under duplicity)> Voltaic Slash > Saber Strike.
This is a simple version and there's a little more depth to it in reality, but since you're still learning the game it's best you master the basics before diving into the little trics.
thanks for the info
A few things to note :
- Never ever use Maul without Duplicity. It costs almost half your force bar and is not sustainable.
- Maintain your stacks of Voltage at all cost. They last 15" so it should be too difficult, but maintaining them is primordial to building Discharge stacks with Ball Lightning.
- Use Force Cloak to chop 1' off of Recklessness CD

If you want to dive deeply in Deception, there's a guide on Dulfy. It's a tiny bit outdated, but most of it hasn't changed, just some details
thanks for all the information
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FlavivsAetivs
10.15.2018 , 04:56 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by LudhaninRolgge View Post
There's not set rotation, but a priority system.

The simple ways is Discharge at 3 stacks > Ball Lightning > Assassinate > Maul (under duplicity)> Voltaic Slash > Saber Strike.
This is a simple version and there's a little more depth to it in reality, but since you're still learning the game it's best you master the basics before diving into the little trics.

A few things to note :
- Never ever use Maul without Duplicity. It costs almost half your force bar and is not sustainable.
- Maintain your stacks of Voltage at all cost. They last 15" so it should be too difficult, but maintaining them is primordial to building Discharge stacks with Ball Lightning.
- Use Force Cloak to chop 1' off of Recklessness CD

If you want to dive deeply in Deception, there's a guide on Dulfy. It's a tiny bit outdated, but most of it hasn't changed, just some details
Jaek's guide is still completely relevant only real difference is they royally screwed up shadow stride.
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rossonja
01.07.2019 , 03:28 PM | #6
I've also just returned and trying to relearn the spec. I'm 65 and going to finish KotET and KofFE to level to 70 and catch up. I read your priority system and the Dulfy guide. I was hoping you coukd share with me a good opener granted that things proc and buff properly (i e., From Stealth: Phantom Stride *once I get it*>Spike>Assassinate*once i talent spec*>). That's about my current understanding, but I would like further explanation for if that opener is best or not and what woukd come next until you go back to the priority system.

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ultimarb
01.10.2019 , 04:07 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by FlavivsAetivs View Post
Jaek's guide is still completely relevant only real difference is they royally screwed up shadow stride.
i think the shadow stride is a bit strange to use for us who played this spec for a really long time during the "off global era". but if it feels less strange every day getting used to it with those gcd's and it shouldnt be relevant for new players.


Quote: Originally Posted by rossonja View Post
I've also just returned and trying to relearn the spec. I'm 65 and going to finish KotET and KofFE to level to 70 and catch up. I read your priority system and the Dulfy guide. I was hoping you coukd share with me a good opener granted that things proc and buff properly (i e., From Stealth: Phantom Stride *once I get it*>Spike>Assassinate*once i talent spec*>). That's about my current understanding, but I would like further explanation for if that opener is best or not and what woukd come next until you go back to the priority system.

prior to opener. 2 x lacerate to gain stacks (for ball lightning, sorry i dont know it's name right now).
recklessness (off global)
discharge
phantomstride
discharge
vanish (reset recklessness on deception with 6 set boni)
maul
recklessness (off global)
discharge
overcharged saber (off global)
prio list

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rossonja
01.10.2019 , 11:31 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by ultimarb View Post
i think the shadow stride is a bit strange to use for us who played this spec for a really long time during the "off global era". but if it feels less strange every day getting used to it with those gcd's and it shouldnt be relevant for new players.





prior to opener. 2 x lacerate to gain stacks (for ball lightning, sorry i dont know it's name right now).
recklessness (off global)
discharge
phantomstride
discharge
vanish (reset recklessness on deception with 6 set boni)
maul
recklessness (off global)
discharge
overcharged saber (off global)
prio list

Thanks you for sharing this with me! I will practice and work on it. I don't seem to see Voltaic Slash much. Does Lacerate build the charges for Ball Lightning more efficiently than VS does?

I cannot seem to find a good stat priority list other than Dulfy. There is an updated Hatred guide on VULKK. It seems most dps specs aim for similar numbers now. Would I be okay following the Hatred guide on Vulkk for stat crunching?

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Maxitrac
01.11.2019 , 04:04 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by rossonja View Post
Thanks you for sharing this with me! I will practice and work on it. I don't seem to see Voltaic Slash much. Does Lacerate build the charges for Ball Lightning more efficiently than VS does?

I cannot seem to find a good stat priority list other than Dulfy. There is an updated Hatred guide on VULKK. It seems most dps specs aim for similar numbers now. Would I be okay following the Hatred guide on Vulkk for stat crunching?
Tbh I would not suggest going by vulkk guides, generally they’re not very realisable. I suggest using my numbers or smarty’s, I’ll edit this and put the links to both those in when I’m at my pc, for now I’ll just give you a invite to my class guide discord. It has updated guides for all classes/spec for both pub and imp, these guides are also written by people who have cleared the vast majority of PvE content in this game.
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