Seriously, get yourself professional help

 

Is there a reason that it's divided into multiple parses? Dummy resets?

 

Aye the biggest problem was my mainhand breaking, initially i assumed it wouldn't be too much of a problem but it ended being a massive issue, so i needed to repair.

Aye the biggest problem was my mainhand breaking, initially i assumed it wouldn't be too much of a problem but it ended being a massive issue, so i needed to repair.

 

What the hutt?

 

How often?

What the hutt?

 

How often?

 

Well it broke about 3 times after every 41mil one, and the last 16mil, also made the mistake of doing a 1mil one to get a break in between the last one and second 41mil one

4854 Great guide thx. (n.b. i'm using old set bonus and first 2 new set bonus, mh 192, mix 192/198, more 192).

4854 Great guide thx. (n.b. i'm using old set bonus and first 2 new set bonus, mh 192, mix 192/198, more 192).

 

Pretty good parse, your overhead slash is delayed by .6 seconds though, and your dots in general are delayed, speed that up and I bet you can hit a 4950.

Well it broke about 3 times after every 41mil one, and the last 16mil, also made the mistake of doing a 1mil one to get a break in between the last one and second 41mil one

 

http://www.twitch.tv/sastur/v/15652622 here's the twitch to go with the parse, had to semi click to make sure i didn't wear out my hand(muscle disorder...)

I updated the guide with a PVP section. It's a WIP but I've had it in my head for a while now.

So, Guardian and Juggernaut Revanchist

Pls do an upd8d one when 4.0 hits bb

Rydarus, your input on current Guardian / Jug changes please.

Not doing a guide for another week. I have a planned statbuild. TL:DR 9% alacrity rest crit. 93ish accuracy. Same utilities cause rootbreak is kinda meh for a rootbreak and better as a DCD.

 

For PVE, difficult to say if I don't know what other classes are parsing.

For PVE, difficult to say if I don't know what other classes are parsing.

 

Guildie said he parsed 5.9 on his AP PT in a mix of 216 and 220. If that helps.

 

And for Dash'roode 8m NiM you need ~6k dps per damage dealer(8.5mio HP).

Guildie said he parsed 5.9 on his AP PT in a mix of 216 and 220. If that helps.

 

And for Dash'roode 8m NiM you need ~6k dps per damage dealer(8.5mio HP).

 

my 5750 on the 1.5 is with almost all pvp gear.

my 5750 on the 1.5 is with almost all pvp gear.

 

Glad to see some folks still fighting the good fight for Jug/Guardians. Looking forward to seeing what your final assessment is for this tier. I feel like I have a pretty good grasp on what to aim for, but this alacrity thing is still kind of throwing me.

Glad to see some folks still fighting the good fight for Jug/Guardians. Looking forward to seeing what your final assessment is for this tier. I feel like I have a pretty good grasp on what to aim for, but this alacrity thing is still kind of throwing me.

 

I got a 220 mainhand and am doing almost a 6k. Not parsing on the 1mil cause it's stupidly short, and I've only been dummy parsing on the 1.5 cause that's what people seem to be fixated on.

 

In boss parses I did HM Styrak and got a 5.4, I outdpsed everyone on the raid team (though I was wearing PVP gear while they were sort of shaving the edge as far as gear goes with 198s and 224 mixes)

 

I'm waiting on dulfy to update the guide before I start actually diving into things.

 

My assessment of the tier is that we're what old focus guardian used to be: We have sickening aoe and decent single target but we're superseded by AP/Carnage/Deception/Annihilation and pretty much every Ranged Spec besides the Mercs. We can still pull competitive numbers because we have the ability to rotate

Edited October 23, 2015 by GrandLordMenace

I got a 220 mainhand and am doing almost a 6k. Not parsing on the 1mil cause it's stupidly short, and I've only been dummy parsing cause that's what people seem to be fixated on.

 

In boss parses I did HM Styrak and got a 5.4, I outdpsed everyone on the raid team (though I was wearing PVP gear while they were sort of shaving the edge as far as gear goes with 198s and 224 mixes)

 

That's how it's always been for us... On paper (dummy parses) we lack, but in the proper hands, more than simply viable in the real game. Though I feel that Styrak is one of the few fights (from my era) that we hold a pretty sturdy advantage on (in that our entire kit had a use). That whole raid was just good in general for Juggernauts/Guardians.

 

In 208s (been effectively gone since just before DF//DP NiM), I'm sitting at 5200, but I feel like I still don't quite have the feel down with the Plasma Brand single-proc Master Strike. Though how much is the proc changes and how much is adjusting to shorter timing windows with Alacrity, I'm not quite sure yet. I'll get the rotation mastered, but I doubt I'll have the gear to back it on the charts anytime soon.

That's how it's always been for us... On paper (dummy parses) we lack, but in the proper hands, more than simply viable in the real game. Though I feel that Styrak is one of the few fights (from my era) that we hold a pretty sturdy advantage on (in that our entire kit had a use). That whole raid was just good in general for Juggernauts/Guardians.

 

In 208s (been effectively gone since just before DF//DP NiM), I'm sitting at 5200, but I feel like I still don't quite have the feel down with the Plasma Brand single-proc Master Strike. Though how much is the proc changes and how much is adjusting to shorter timing windows with Alacrity, I'm not quite sure yet. I'll get the rotation mastered, but I doubt I'll have the gear to back it on the charts anytime soon.

 

I remember you from the mattmonkey days, you might remember me as lordbadtamaru though.

I remember you from the mattmonkey days, you might remember me as lordbadtamaru though.

 

There was a pretty good cadre of Vig/Veng players at that time (and a few good Rage players as well). I do remember that name, and I've kinda trolled about off and on watching for that one patch that makes me fall in love with the class again, so I've somewhat kept up with your 3.0 work as well.

 

The guys that actually take the time to put a guide out for the general player base are always appreciated. I was more in it for the discussions leading up to the guides.

Edited October 23, 2015 by ssfish

Latest parses:

 

6115 and 6089 on the 1.5 and the 2.5 mil respectively. I'll type out my gear build in the next post.

 

http://parsely.io/parser/view/74166/27

http://parsely.io/parser/view/74173

Can't wait to see your stats and gear build, especialy Alacrity and Accuracy

The guide is up! Same link! Dulfy will be reposting it and reformatting it but the raw info is there and garbled. I haven't updated in a long time so there's going to be a bit of new stuff.

Good guide bud, oh and please beat my bulo parse

 

Edit:

 

I can't get close to your UL parse, and I hate you

Edited October 29, 2015 by MBloomberg

Good guide bud, oh and please beat my bulo parse

 

Edit:

 

I can't get close to your UL parse, and I hate you

 

Which one? 3.0 or 4.0?

UL, both lol, and bulo, 4.0

Hey everyone, thanks for the great thread. Been playing for about a week (first time I've played since a few months post launch), hit 65 and I'm ready to gear up with the Basic Crystal gear. I'm curious though, since the guide didn't go into it, how should I prioritize the tertiary (Accuracy/Crit/Alacrity) stats? I'm looking at Earpieces and Implants and I don't really have any idea which ones to go for. I'm guessing it's best to start out with Accuracy items until I being to Augment gear and such (still working that out, I forget if it was in the game at launch). Also, are there any slots I should pick up with the Glowing crystals over Basic first i.e. larger upgrade with one slot vs another? Thanks for any info! Edited October 30, 2015 by volgon