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PvE tanks and healers?!

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PvE tanks and healers?!

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Dajman
12.22.2017 , 05:19 AM | #1
Hey all. I have been gone for nearly 3 years now while finishing school. My hobby game went back to wow for the story and gw2 for the pvp. But man how sad I am to have forsaken my love for star wars. I'm back because I am really hoping to find a challenging raiding scene again. Blizzard has pretty well killed of mythic raiding and if the challenge isn't there anymore I hope to find somewhere it still exists. I'm not talking challenge of downing bosses but challenge as far as becoming proficient with a class and applying that set of abilities to the encounters. Tanks and heals are a complete joke anymore over there. So I come In hopes that they survive here and to see that defense and shield rating and hit still exist makes me super hopeful.

All of that said and I apologize for the word puke I'll get down to my question. Is there anything that isn't capable of downing top tier stuff right now? And are there any healing/tanking specs that are in demand at all? I can't jump directly onto a bandwagon but I would love to hear from the pve nerds what would be on their wishlist of things they wish they saw more of. As for pvp I'm not competing in that and as such I will accept the downfalls of what ever I decide on for pve.

Are tanks or heals more in demand?
Is there particularly good/bad synergy between specific tanks/healing combos atm?
And what do you believe has overall the most impact (reflected in logs or not) in progression.

And I guess is there enough pve interest in the game right now to make pushing high end content a goal in the first place. If 95% of ops are done by pugs it might be a short lived subscription.

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ZouYan
12.31.2017 , 09:35 AM | #2
All tank and healing classes are viable for all content. Powertech tanks struggle with the last phase of brontes NiM but other then that they work fine. Assassin tanks are the most preferred tanks atm cause of there ability to negate some mechanics. For healers merc and sorc are the most common healers. Operative healer are a bit morr difficult to play and require a bit more proactive healing in some of the fights. Personally i think the most needed role in this game for progression raiding is strong ranged dps.
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Letsjet
12.31.2017 , 09:08 PM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by ZouYan View Post
All tank and healing classes are viable for all content. Powertech tanks struggle with the last phase of brontes NiM but other then that they work fine. Assassin tanks are the most preferred tanks atm cause of there ability to negate some mechanics. For healers merc and sorc are the most common healers. Operative healer are a bit morr difficult to play and require a bit more proactive healing in some of the fights. Personally i think the most needed role in this game for progression raiding is strong ranged dps.
MAN!!! What a great response!
Ok! So Iím a collectors edition early start Player with every class to the original 55.
Both Empire and Republic.
Iím back to SWTOR too after years off. My original character was an an assassain raid tank.
My second raid player was a NiM sniper. I love Merc dps, can heal (but donít get the same kick.)
Anywho, since 5.6, what, iyho, is a ranged dps that can (a) fill in at 6-8ms lag day raid US or (b) 200-250 ms lay EU prime time?
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Iymurra
01.01.2018 , 02:04 PM | #4
refer to this thread for approximate numbers. New augs in 5.whatever we're on now haven't shifted anything much.
Remember to adjust to alacrity tiering

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=918622
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Yezzan
01.02.2018 , 03:28 AM | #5
if you are going to tank, the easiest one is Immortal/Guardian, the best is Assassin/Shadow

if you are going to heal, its Sage/ Sorcerer, and I make no apologies.

If you want to switch roles tank DPS - same as above

Healer/DPS -I'd have to say Commando/Mercenary

Operative is hard to play regardless of the role you choose.

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Dajman
01.02.2018 , 03:20 PM | #6
Thanks for the responses. I ended up going with the sage and a GS. Not sure which I will ultimately end up gearing and running on but I have definitely fallen in love with ranged dps. Both classes are wicked fun only downside for me is the stories. Smuggler is great fun where sage honestly puts me to sleep. Maybe I will have to try sorc as well. Tanking I gave a good go but ultimately I felt I had more control over outcomes as a healer and a ranged who could look after himself and take care of adds quickly on the swaps. I must say being put on the interrupt rotation as a sage healer was legit and I love that you can stretch any role in the game to be useful so long as you learn what stuff to eliminate quickly and how to do it. GS has a few really cool utilities I have found use for so far and honestly I don't think my decision has gotten easier haha only trickier to figure out what I want to fill in as.

I just wish tele sage/lightning sorc was a bit more competitive with the GS. When the specs proc off its a ton of fun and easily mobile as well but when RNGeezus doesn't smile upon you the slinger just feels so much smoother. Although I think having the ability to respec for heals if needed would be a large boon. Anyway thanks again for the responses.

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Letsjet
01.02.2018 , 05:34 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Yezzan View Post
if you are going to tank, the easiest one is Immortal/Guardian, the best is Assassin/Shadow

if you are going to heal, its Sage/ Sorcerer, and I make no apologies.

If you want to switch roles tank DPS - same as above

Healer/DPS -I'd have to say Commando/Mercenary

Operative is hard to play regardless of the role you choose.
So Virulence sniper Dirty Fighting gunslinger nis right out out?
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Yezzan
01.02.2018 , 08:45 PM | #8
sniper and gunslinger are pure DPS and not relevant to the thread.

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Letsjet
01.03.2018 , 05:43 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Yezzan View Post
if you are going to tank, the easiest one is Immortal/Guardian, the best is Assassin/Shadow

if you are going to heal, its Sage/ Sorcerer, and I make no apologies.

If you want to switch roles tank DPS - same as above

Healer/DPS -I'd have to say Commando/Mercenary

Operative is hard to play regardless of the role you choose.
When I played my sin, he was a great off tank but could get 1 or 2 shootteld like that. regardless of play. not full NiM. is the mitigation a bit more consistent?
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Yezzan
01.10.2018 , 05:42 AM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by Letsjet View Post
When I played my sin, he was a great off tank but could get 1 or 2 shootteld like that. regardless of play. not full NiM. is the mitigation a bit more consistent?
At no point should you get one-shotted unless it is by an avoidable mechanic. Except for saber reflect, which can only reflect specific attacks, a Jug don't have on-demand, in your face mitigation, like a sin. You can force speed (with utility) and soak up a ton of damage, and remember force speed has a short CD. Similarly, you get a reflect with deflection, if you chose that utility. So, as long as you keep your dark ward up and time your force speeds, you can negate a ton of damage, consistently throughout the encounter. Jug is just a whole lot easier to play.