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I'm not one for boycotts but Solo was the first ever SW movie I missed in cinemas. TLJ left such a bad taste I just wasn't feeling it. However I'll go watch E9 for sure, once.

 

But Disney has to get their head out of their posteriors in regards to what they do with the franchise next.

 

I cant facepalm enough that some people are still on about "brand fatigue"... Endgame is the 5th MCU movie in less than 18 months since Black Panther in January 2018 and it's smashing box office records. SW done goofed bad with the sequel trilogy, that's pretty much obvious now.

 

Disney has no plans on stopping with SW movies. Their focus is at the moment on Disney+ streaming service, but they already got planned SW movies for 2022,2024 and 2026. It looks like trilogy and many believe it's gonna be something with Knights of The Old Republic era. And 2 people directing it are the ones, who are f-ing up Game of Thrones final season. Week after week I see on internet people tearing down each episode. Personally I stopped watching it after 2nd season, because they messed up timeline and 10 episodes just didn't cut it for runtime. Now final season has like 6 episodes, no wonder it's bad. BUt I do read books from Martin.

 

So yeah in short Disney is learning it's lesson (not). SW is the next Transformers franchise, where no matter how bad it gets people will go see it and they'll just keep making more of it, because all they care about is money, not quality.

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I'm *Not going to see it; maybe when it comes cable otherwise no. Disney is wrecking "Star Wars"; A Genre BlockBuster . Disney makes these movies for the sake of generating money, not for the sake of them being "Star Wars". When the original crew (Director(s), Writer(s), CGI staff, etc is still around and Disney treats them and their "Input" from "BlockBuster making Experience" with lies, intimidation, threats and job terminations it would seem Disney doesn't really care how to make a movie of any quality.

 

Bringing back the "Bad Guys" after death diminishes the entire original struggle (Story) against them (and when the original is diminished then anything afterwards is diminished aswell), also "Click Bait" for the "Trendy, Edgy, Cliché". The cheapest, easiest way to get money for all the worst reasons, certainly Cheaper then finding anybody capable of creating a new likeable character.

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George friggen Lucas.

 

He's been apart of it since before the script was written. He is responsible for entire scenes and some of the dialog. He's been an advisor to J.J. and in fact he even was allowed to direct certain scenes.

 

J.J. is one smart dude. He just saved Star Wars.

 

This movie, isn't gonna suck. It's gonna be friggen awesome.

 

This is Lucas grand finale. No chance they skimped on it.

 

And the best part?

 

You're not even going to hear the word 'Grey' used in any context whatsoever.

That makes it worth it right there.

 

Yeah, they're gonna smear Luke's memory in the dirt by naming a side of the force that doesn't even exist after him and concept that doesn't even exist in canon.

 

You're either a Star Wars fan or you're not.

 

And just for the record, I'm not trying to start an argument here, people are allowed to like whatever they want. My only concern is for canon and what it actually and factually is. Lucas Canon is still canon. And they have said numerous times that they will never invalidate Lucas canon and that all future Star Wars stories must align with the themes and concepts set by the creator of Star Wars. Darkside/Lightside/No Grey is the very foundation upon which the entire Star Wars Universe is predicated on.

 

What people do within the confines of their own little role playing groups is their business, I wouldn't prevent people from playing 'Grey' concept characters in their own groups even if I could. Games are about having fun.

 

It just gets problematic when it comes to canon. I freely admit I am anti-Grey. I'm an old school hardcore Star Wars fan. I don't get any more say than anyone else when it comes to Star Wars canon. Only the Lucasfilm Story Group does. And they have spoken on the subject and ruled. There is no 'Grey' in canon. The following spoiler has quotes from them regarding for anyone should they wish to read them.

 

I don't expect to change anyone's minds. You're free to like what you want and want canon to change if you want. I don't want it, some of you do, where the different lines of thought fans have go, only time will tell. It will change or it won't.

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[some people think bring up Bendu and Mortis is a good thing. I can't for the life of me understand how people who want the "Grey" thing to gain traction why on earth they would point then out. Now I hate that stuff, so it really doesn't gain me anything for saying so, but your hurting your cause by doing it. Your call though.]

 

Lucasfilm Story Group Quotes/Rulings on 'Grey' - These are just some of the quote regarding it, there are several others.

 

This is canon, if you refuse to acknowledge as such, that's your right I guess. I don't expect it to change anyone's mind. I'm sure most already know this. But, maybe some people don't realize the canon as it is, because they read some much crap on the internet, I can honestly understand why some people would be confused. A ton of misinformation out there.

 

 

"Are 'Grey Jedi' canon or just a fan fic thing?"

 

Matt Martin [Lucasfilm story group] - 'Yeah its basically a fan thing. It doesn't really make sence with the way the Force works'

 

https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/98917/are-grey-jedi-canon-official-lucasfilm-response

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"There really is no such thing as 'gray Jedi' in our stories"

 

-Pablo Hidalgo [Lucasfilm Story Group]

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Matt Martin [Lucasfilm Story Group] - "Point is it seems implausible to maintain a state of "grey", being a bit light and a bit dark. The dark would take over."

 

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKQPZm5WkAEff_6.jpg

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"The dark side comes at a cost. That cost has to be more than "it makes me a ******"

- Pablo Hidalgo [Lucasfilm Story Group]

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"Remember that if a fictional character thinks something,it doesnt necessarily mean they're right."

 

[bendu comes to mind]

 

- Pablo Hidalgo [Lucasfilm Story Group]

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Question - "I find it hard to believe that anyone could be purely light. Everyone has some darkness in them."

 

Matt Martin [Lucasfilm Story Group] - "Sure. But by that logic everyone is grey. In Star Wars terms, dark and light are pretty clear cut and it's safe to say Ahsoka is light."

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Question - "I’d say Ahsoka is grey, not light. Because the comic shows Anakins missing limbs as a light blue that seem to signify the light side of the force."

 

Matt Martin Reponse [Lucasfilm Story Group] - "Ahsoka is a pure good soul. There's no grey there."

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"Idk I think throughout the clone wars Ahsoka Let her anger get the best of her sometimes"

 

There was that time she force choked a trandoshan. Though it was only for a brief moment before she threw him aside." -2018

 

Matt Martin [Lucasfilm Story Group] - "I think there's a big difference between being perfect and being grey. Nobody is perfect, even Jedi. Constantly making dark choices pushes one into the dark side. Occasionally letting emotions get the better of them then recovering from it is just life."

 

 

? 20 Dec 2018

Matt Martin [Lucasfilm Story Group] - "Out side of the story world, you just have to think that if every SW hero was always making perfect choices and never had any sort of internal conflict, SW would be pretty boring. It's how the heroes react in those moments that keep them heroes... or not."

 

 

"That's the whole point of Star Wars. You can be selfless, or

selfish. This is what George spoke about the most. This will lift

you up, this will tear you down. It's really that simple, and

that's the Force in a nutshell" - Dave Filoni

 

Matt Martin - [Lucasfilm Story Group] - 2018

"I wouldn't consider Qui-Gon grey either [Ashoka]. They're good, light side Force users who happen to shirk some of the dogma of the Jedi Order. Not agreeing with the Jedi doesn't necessarily push one closer to the dark. The Jedi are wrong so often that maybe QG and Ahsoka are right!"

 

 

Some more links with more quotes from the Lucasfilm Story Group -

 

 

 

 

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Pablo - Disney stick to Lucas vision

http://i97.servimg.com/u/f97/19/44/90/96/image18.jpg

 

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKQPZm5WkAEff_6.jpg

 

 

 

 

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People can say what they want and sure there are some that might even like TFA and TLJ. But you can't deny how many plot holes both movies have and how they are trash, episode VIII not only ruins franchise,but doesn't even bother to follow episode VII.

 

But Disney already has planned movies for 2022, 2024 and 2026 for Star Wars. So whole 3 years of "big break" from Star Wars movies. If people were actually smart and not just go "I'm a SW fan will see every movie no matter what,because I'm SW fan" and send them message with episode IX....then they'll stop and think about quality. Now for them is just rolling out new movies. Do you want a-la Transformers 4,5 and 6 movies just in Star Wars. by that I mean trash movies. And why do they keep making Transformers? because they bring in money and money is all they care about.

 

no more plotholes then the OT.

 

Some people like them? These are the most successful star wars films of all time.

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no more plotholes then the OT.

 

Some people like them? These are the most successful star wars films of all time.

 

Oh please...critics are all bought and paid for. Rotten Tomatoes is a joke. Then you got those YouTube leeches, that will talk about these movies (and mostly positive,because they sheep and shills),just to get clicks and views, because otherwise they don't get views. Then you got the Captain Marvel thing,where Disney or Marvel is buying tickets for their own movies, just to make them APPEAR more profitable than they are, but then when it actually comes to toy sales and merchandise it doesn't sell. Captain Marvel their "most succesful" hero,yet they rebooting their comic for...what now 7th time? I lost count.

 

Back to SW....please you can't even compare OT with this turd trilogy. Rey beats Kylo 2x in less than 10h with 0 training. Finn holds his own vs Kylo. Then people make excuse,how Kylo didn't finish his training. Then when you point out Rey has 0 training, they make comic,saying she DOWNLOADED all knowledge from Kylo, when he interrogated her...then HOW THE F IS HE SO WEAK ?

 

That whole space chase in episode VIII....it's a good thing they know what inertia is. Oh wait they don't, because then the fuel thing wouldn't be a problem. That whole Holdo sacrifice fiasco. Like why didn't they do this with first ship that lost fuel. Because answer would be,that either that 60km+ Snkoe ship or ALL THOSE DESSTROYERS in background would blow it up the second it started turning.

 

Finn and Rose adventure...where Finn's friends in trouble,about to die..but when he gets to Casino, he thinks of gambling....Poe that should be dead in episode VII,but they liked actor and then somehow he's back later in movie...Leia Supermaning,because why not....episode VII not even bothering to follow episode VII.

 

Phasma joke. Can't even edit scene around her. She stands next to Finn. Gets knocked down from blast,then comes out with rifle in her hands and 4-5 troopers with her throguh some door....great continuity.

 

Leia ignoring Chewie,when Han dies and hugs Rey.

 

THE WORST LIGHTSABERS DUELS EVER. Episode VII were horrible,but damn did episode VIII take that #1 spot.

 

Luke and Rey at end of episode VII looking at each other...camera zooming out and spinning around...episode VIII,she walks up to him...hands him lightsaber and he throws it away. Great continuity. Luke gonna gave Rey 3 lessons,but we only see 2. You gotta pay for that 3rd, because let's hold back content like it's a game. But if you smart,you find it on internet.

 

Like I said...Star Wars is the new Transformers franchise. No matter, how bad, people will go see it.

 

Oh and episode VIII had biggest drop from sequel to sequel in history. And again they can't sell toys and merchandise, where real money is for them. And let's bring back original cast back and **** all over them, because no one cares about new characters, because they ****.

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Oh please...critics are all bought and paid for. Rotten Tomatoes is a joke. Then you got those YouTube leeches, that will talk about these movies (and mostly positive,because they sheep and shills),just to get clicks and views, because otherwise they don't get views. Then you got the Captain Marvel thing,where Disney or Marvel is buying tickets for their own movies, just to make them APPEAR more profitable than they are, but then when it actually comes to toy sales and merchandise it doesn't sell. Captain Marvel their "most succesful" hero,yet they rebooting their comic for...what now 7th time? I lost count.

 

Back to SW....please you can't even compare OT with this turd trilogy. Rey beats Kylo 2x in less than 10h with 0 training. Finn holds his own vs Kylo. Then people make excuse,how Kylo didn't finish his training. Then when you point out Rey has 0 training, they make comic,saying she DOWNLOADED all knowledge from Kylo, when he interrogated her...then HOW THE F IS HE SO WEAK ?

 

That whole space chase in episode VIII....it's a good thing they know what inertia is. Oh wait they don't, because then the fuel thing wouldn't be a problem. That whole Holdo sacrifice fiasco. Like why didn't they do this with first ship that lost fuel. Because answer would be,that either that 60km+ Snkoe ship or ALL THOSE DESSTROYERS in background would blow it up the second it started turning.

 

Finn and Rose adventure...where Finn's friends in trouble,about to die..but when he gets to Casino, he thinks of gambling....Poe that should be dead in episode VII,but they liked actor and then somehow he's back later in movie...Leia Supermaning,because why not....episode VII not even bothering to follow episode VII.

 

Phasma joke. Can't even edit scene around her. She stands next to Finn. Gets knocked down from blast,then comes out with rifle in her hands and 4-5 troopers with her throguh some door....great continuity.

 

Leia ignoring Chewie,when Han dies and hugs Rey.

 

THE WORST LIGHTSABERS DUELS EVER. Episode VII were horrible,but damn did episode VIII take that #1 spot.

 

Luke and Rey at end of episode VII looking at each other...camera zooming out and spinning around...episode VIII,she walks up to him...hands him lightsaber and he throws it away. Great continuity. Luke gonna gave Rey 3 lessons,but we only see 2. You gotta pay for that 3rd, because let's hold back content like it's a game. But if you smart,you find it on internet.

 

Like I said...Star Wars is the new Transformers franchise. No matter, how bad, people will go see it.

 

Oh and episode VIII had biggest drop from sequel to sequel in history. And again they can't sell toys and merchandise, where real money is for them. And let's bring back original cast back and **** all over them, because no one cares about new characters, because they ****.

 

if all of that is true... then you will never see another star wars movie that you enjoy. Disney has more money then god and will keep buying off critics and people will keep seeing the movies.

 

 

So far the only Star Wars movie that has "failed" is Solo the only movie with a straight white male lead. Guess what that means for all future star wars movies? They will be more of TLJ. Especially since the success of Ms Marvel.

 

Sorry kid but this is star wars and your opinion doesn't matter to Disney or Star Wars anymore.

 

The public has spoken and the ST is what the world wants.

 

 

edit: Yeah toy sales are down for EVERY franchise even Marvel. Kids aren't buying toys anymore its all digital now.

 

Yeah... comics reboot... you clearly have never read a comic. Every superhero has been rebooted several times. It's a right of passage. Captain Marvel isn't even the first Captian Marvel and isnt' even the first female captain Marvel. Thor himself was rebooted several times. Hell in the 80s Thor was just a title and not an actual person.

 

You can hate on it as much as you want but you are just an old man yelling at clouds

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The new movies are indeed Lesser; lesser compared to the "Core Movies" but nevertheless they'll make money, that's why Disney wanted and payed so much for them. They're guaranteed to make money due to the Popularity the "Core Movies" created and people simply flocking to whatever is "Hyped" by the Media and other Flashy Gossip. When even the first line actors are talking bad about the director(s), story line and set environment (relations) it cant be good. They are "Star Wars" no doubt there but they're not the high point at all (Just a money machine built to work on hype and popularity other people created).
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Yeah I know comics reboot. But I am talking about,how Captain Marvel nowdays...it's being rebooted nonstop.

 

And yes "clearly I never read a comic "It's so obvious,isn't it?

 

Solo and Rogue One are far superior movies compared to TLJ: And Solo didn't fail, because of straight white male lead, but you go on ahead and think that.

 

Oh ok..."the public has spoken"....have your turd trilogy.

 

Bye Felicia with purple hair

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Then you got the Captain Marvel thing,where Disney or Marvel is buying tickets for their own movies, just to make them APPEAR more profitable than they are,.

 

yeah.. this is all anyone needs to know about you.

 

 

and yes I will enjoy the ST as will millions of others seeing as again it's the most popular star wars trilogy in history. Hate as much as you want this is Star Wars and this is how it is.

 

psst also I didn't say Solo failed because it had a straight white protagonist. I said if what you said is true ie all the dumb conspiracy theory crap about buying tickets and paying off reviewers then that is why it failed.

 

Solo failed because it was a han solo film with out Harrison Ford. No one cares about the character han Solo except for fan boys who were the ones who went and saw it. The general audience only wants to see Harrison Ford be a space smugler.

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Holiday Special is infinitely better than TLJ. RJ is a complete hack without any talent whatsoever. I’ve seen better written scripts for elementary school plays.

 

Luke Skywalker...the man who saw good in space hitler and was willing to sacrifice his life to see him redeemed attempts to murder his innocent but troubled nephew in his sleep.

 

Force ghosts who can now directly interact with the physical world.... Can someone explain why Yoda or Obi-Wan simply didn’t call lightning on Palpatine or any of the First Order leaders?

 

That’s only the tip of the iceberg.

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Holiday Special is infinitely better than TLJ. RJ is a complete hack without any talent whatsoever. I’ve seen better written scripts for elementary school plays.

 

Luke Skywalker...the man who saw good in space hitler and was willing to sacrifice his life to see him redeemed attempts to murder his innocent but troubled nephew in his sleep.

 

Force ghosts who can now directly interact with the physical world.... Can someone explain why Yoda or Obi-Wan simply didn’t call lightning on Palpatine or any of the First Order leaders?

 

That’s only the tip of the iceberg.

 

I plan on seeing the movie...

 

That said: I'm personally disgusted with the last couple of installments. The attempt on his trouble nephew was one of the worst written parts of the entire Star Wars saga. There is simply no excuse for it!

 

Even at the end... that so called attack with junk "fighters" at the end? Seriously ?

 

And again with the "order" all lined up in a straight row attacking what's left of the resistance ? Good grief ... any WWII student can tell you the problem with that. Any idiot can tell you the problem with that. All Luke has to do is use the force ?? Pull the entire line up of enemy attacking units to the middle where that big gun is at ... and the order is looking for some new equipment .... and someone to lead them. Hmmm..

 

At any rate. I just hope that JJ stops screwing things up so bad ! It's getting to be ridiculous !

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if all of that is true... then you will never see another star wars movie that you enjoy. Disney has more money then god and will keep buying off critics and people will keep seeing the movies.

 

 

So far the only Star Wars movie that has "failed" is Solo the only movie with a straight white male lead. Guess what that means for all future star wars movies? They will be more of TLJ. Especially since the success of Ms Marvel.

 

Sorry kid but this is star wars and your opinion doesn't matter to Disney or Star Wars anymore.

 

The public has spoken and the ST is what the world wants.

 

 

edit: Yeah toy sales are down for EVERY franchise even Marvel. Kids aren't buying toys anymore its all digital now.

 

Yeah... comics reboot... you clearly have never read a comic. Every superhero has been rebooted several times. It's a right of passage. Captain Marvel isn't even the first Captian Marvel and isnt' even the first female captain Marvel. Thor himself was rebooted several times. Hell in the 80s Thor was just a title and not an actual person.

 

You can hate on it as much as you want but you are just an old man yelling at clouds

 

TLJ fell slightly below expectations domestically and 36% behind TFA. It tanked internationally; especially in China. Star Wars toy sales failed to maintain their number one sales position for the first time in history during a period of active movie releases. So it’s not just that toy sales in general are down; it’s that in comparison to other marketed toys, Star Wars has lost its dominance and is continuing to fall. Solo failed following serious fallout centered around TLJ.

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I think if you pick at the fabric of Star Wars you're going to find disappointment. Effective military strategy and realism have always taken a back-seat to spectacle, and force powers have always been plot devices. Obviously, everyone is free to have their opinions about the new films, but if you're going to criticize them on the basis of realism, you should probably take a critical look at the Original Trilogy as well...
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I think if you pick at the fabric of Star Wars you're going to find disappointment. Effective military strategy and realism have always taken a back-seat to spectacle, and force powers have always been plot devices. Obviously, everyone is free to have their opinions about the new films, but if you're going to criticize them on the basis of realism, you should probably take a critical look at the Original Trilogy as well...

 

It’s a space opera. Suspension of disbelief is necessary. However, the extent that movie goers were asked to do that blew past absurd at kessel run speeds. There’s a difference between asking people to suspend their disbelief for the purpose of believing in fantastical concepts like the force or technological concepts like Star killer base and glaring plot holes or ridiculous plot points.

 

- Luke Skywalker: the hopelessly optimistic, epitome of good and righteousness: the man who watched his adopted parents/aunt and uncles corpse smolder, who watched another father figure cut down in front of him by space hitler, who then was helpless to stop space hitler from killing his childhood best friend: the man who was willing to sacrifice his life to save his friends and redeem this same space hitler who happened to be his father, whom he saw good in when no one else did. Somehow, this man decided that his innocent but troubled nephew needed to be murdered in his sleep. I would venture to say that few if any of us are as fundamentally guided by good as Luke skywalker was. That’s the point though. He’s supposed to be everything we’re not. Even without being as inherently righteous as Luke Skywalker, none of us (I hope) would consider let alone actually attempt murdering an innocent but troubled relative in their sleep. It’s a leap in logic that defies any ability to suspend disbelief. It’s absurd to the point of insanity. That it passed vetting is disturbing

 

- Yoda calling lightning from the sky to destroy the Jedi temple. Why didn’t he, Obi-Wan, or Qui-Gon do this to simply blow up Palpatine and Vader long ago and save the galaxy from countless billions dying?

 

- Space Monte Casino: aside from the utter pointlessness of their mission; but Rose appeared to be more concerned about the space horses than actual sentient slaves. Finn then felt that freeing them was “worth it” at the moment they thought they weee about to be re-captured or killed. Worth failing their mission? Ok, cool story. As long as you don’t feel bad about abandoning actual spaces to free horses with your gal pal. Speaking of these two...how the hell did they get back to the rebel base after crashing just meters in front of the laser battering ram, and rose wasting time with her cringeworthy line about love before #metoo’ing Finn? Like the ENTIRE First Order army was right next to them and they had to get back on foot. It’s a not a matter of suspending my disbelief, it’s garbage writing.

 

The list goes on; but these examples are sufficient for my purposes.

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TLJ fell slightly below expectations domestically and 36% behind TFA. It tanked internationally; especially in China. Star Wars toy sales failed to maintain their number one sales position for the first time in history during a period of active movie releases. So it’s not just that toy sales in general are down; it’s that in comparison to other marketed toys, Star Wars has lost its dominance and is continuing to fall. Solo failed following serious fallout centered around TLJ.

 

tell me how did Empire do vs A New Hope? Unajusted 30%

 

Tell me how did AoTC do vs TPM? unajusted 36.9%

 

It tanked internationally

712,358,507 is tanking internationally? Are you on drugs?

 

Star Wars has never sold in China..... like ever. The fact it made anything is gosh darn miracle. In no way was disney expecting TLJ to do well in China.

 

Toy sales are down for EVERY franchise including Marvel. Do you know what is up though? MIcortransactions in Mobile games. The amount of profit they made from any of the 50 STar Wars games on mobile easily dwarfs the profits of Toy sales.

 

 

Solo failed following serious fallout centered around TLJ.

 

no Solo failed because no one wants to see Han Solo with out Harrison Ford.

 

Tell you what if you are right and TLJ hurt Star Wars then we will find out in a few months when Ep9 is released.

 

 

 

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Luke Skywalker...the man who saw good in space hitler

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ahh this explains it. You don't even understand the OT. Vader was not Space Hitler. The Emperor was Space Hitler.

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tell me how did Empire do vs A New Hope? Unajusted 30%

Tell me how did AoTC do vs TPM? unajusted 36.9%

712,358,507 is tanking internationally? Are you on drugs?

Star Wars has never sold in China..... like ever. The fact it made anything is gosh darn miracle. In no way was disney expecting TLJ to do well in China.

Toy sales are down for EVERY franchise including Marvel. Do you know what is up though? MIcortransactions in Mobile games. The amount of profit they made from any of the 50 STar Wars games on mobile easily dwarfs the profits of Toy sales.

no Solo failed because no one wants to see Han Solo with out Harrison Ford.

Tell you what if you are right and TLJ hurt Star Wars then we will find out in a few months when Ep9 is released.

ahh this explains it. You don't even understand the OT. Vader was not Space Hitler. The Emperor was Space Hitler.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2018/01/19/star-wars-the-last-jedi-heads-toward-final-global-total-of-1-3-billion/amp/

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/lukethompson/2017/12/21/why-arent-star-wars-toys-selling-as-well-this-year/amp/

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/fortune.com/2018/01/18/star-wars-the-last-jedi-chinese-theaters/amp/

 

Please stop. The film in China was literally pulled from theaters; a weak market is vastly different from a hostile one. Ticket sales dropped 92% after just a week in theaters. “‘The Last Jedi has already been completely pulled from cinemas here,’ Jimmy Wu, chairman of nationwide Chinese cinema chain Lumiere Pavilions, told The Hollywood Reporter. ‘It’s performed much worse than we could have expected.’” TFA made $29 million in China. TLJ didn’t even make $3 million....

 

Star Wars toys lost to Nerf toys...Nerf...despite leading the market as recently as 2016. What is so difficult to understand that toy sales are tanking within the toy market compared to other toys...? It’s not a discussion of toys vs virtual good or anything else. Just toys. Toys. When talking about market competition it helps if you keep it relevant by talking about the same market. That all toy sales are down is irrelevant to the discussion of Star Wars toys in comparison to other toys.

 

As far as mobile games go. There isn’t a single Star Wars game on any of these lists:

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/263988/top-grossing-mobile-ios-gaming-apps-ranked-by-daily-revenue/

 

https://www.pocketgamer.biz/feature/66339/mobile-games-billion-dollar-club/entry/1/

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gamesindustry.biz/amp/2019-01-16-fortnite-tops-2018-superdata-chart-with-usd2-4b-digital-revenue

 

Ahhh this explains it...the need to defend a poorly written movie has resulted in purposeful hyper-focusing on a metaphor in order to side step the point which was.....garbage writing. How about I fix it for you...space Goebbels with wizard powers. The point stands that the writing is trash and Luke’s character makes no sense. The special effects were cool though...

 

People had no problem seeing the entire enterprise crew without any of the actors who made them famous. Weird...

 

You can admit you like the movie despite it being garbage writing. It’s ok. I mean...I like Starship Troopers and that’s movie is trash lol.

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Please stop. The film in China was literally pulled from theaters; a weak market is vastly different from a hostile one. Ticket sales dropped 92% after just a week in theaters. “‘The Last Jedi has already been completely pulled from cinemas here,’ Jimmy Wu, chairman of nationwide Chinese cinema chain Lumiere Pavilions, told The Hollywood Reporter. ‘It’s performed much worse than we could have expected.’” TFA made $29 million in China. TLJ didn’t even make $3 million....

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if you are going to lie then we will not continue this discussion.

 

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=starwars7.htm

 

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=starwars8.htm

 

TLJ made 42 million in china.

 

we are done here.

 

 

edit: oh god you use superdata as a source for mobile revenue? the company that says Leuage of Legends is a MMO? ****

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if you are going to lie then we will not continue this discussion.

 

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=starwars7.htm

 

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=starwars8.htm

 

TLJ made 42 million in china.

 

we are done here.

 

 

edit: oh god you use superdata as a source for mobile revenue? the company that says Leuage of Legends is a MMO? ****

 

Not even close. TLJ made $28.7 million the first weekend with a 92% drop the second week to $2.8 million the second week before it was pulled from theaters.

 

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-china-box-office-why-disneys-jedi-mind-trick-isnt-working-china-1075177

 

You seem to have a tenuous grasp of what virtual goods are and that mobile sales constitute the vast bulk of all gaming virtual sales. But none of this is surprising considering the confusion you have surrounding toy sales.

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Not even close. TLJ made $28.7 million the first weekend with a 92% drop the second week to $2.8 million the second week before it was pulled from theaters.

 

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-china-box-office-why-disneys-jedi-mind-trick-isnt-working-china-1075177

 

You seem to have a tenuous grasp of what virtual goods are and that mobile sales constitute the vast bulk of all gaming virtual sales. But none of this is surprising considering the confusion you have surrounding toy sales.

 

again you are lying

 

here is what you said

 

TFA made $29 million in China. TLJ didn’t even make $3 million

 

Both of those statements are wrong

 

You even just admitted it.

TLJ made $28.7 million the first weekend

 

 

so again you are a liar we are done here.

 

I will educate you on mobile games

 

 

How do you think those people get that info on Mobile game sales?

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  • 2 weeks later...

Don't care for the Disney version of Star Wars (or anything else of late...) and probably wont go see it in theaters. My Star Wars consumption has been dialed back to mainly this game and catching up on the older action figures (don't judge =p). I didn't like The Force Awakens b/ c the glaring similarities between it and ANH. I enjoyed a few of the characters and seeing the original crew but that was about it. TLJ was terrible imo. Again, liked some characters, disappointed in many and cringed at the story and undertones. I did like the big ships designs. Superdreadnaught especially. For an ip with such a huge following, legend and iconic history, disney and team didn't do a good job of "passing the torch" which was what it was probably supposed to do.

 

Oh Well,

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Star Wars was permanently damaged when The Force Awakens came out. Why are we still on any sort of hype train at all?

 

Arguably it was TLJ that damaged Star Wars seeing how Rian Johnson completely tossed the plan all the other writers had come up with.

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