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Vanguard DPS vs Commando DPS

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Vanguard DPS vs Commando DPS

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grandmasterub
01.11.2012 , 11:58 AM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by juanni View Post
Agreed. I also don't understand why people automatically assume if an advanced class has the option to tank they MUST be a tank.
Yah on my van people assume I'm a tank. While on my shadow they assume I'm dps. In reality its opposite lol. I don't get it
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UglyStik
01.11.2012 , 12:20 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Cartho View Post
I'd love it if, when we get addons / combat logging, we find out that Vanguard DPS destroys Commando DPS. It'd be so funny seeing all the forum QQ from Commandos who went with it purely because some moron on the forums told them it was better.
It's not as if it is bad to play Commando. I rarely ever read these forums because people have internet egos the size of Alaska(like you) Someone made a Commando and enjoyed it. Therefor he is a moron? Nerds act so big on websites.



I have a Commando speced in Gunnery. I like it so far - but each class has their job to do. When I'm in PVP I'm basically what people said before(a turret). If you want ranged DPS go Commando. Once you get to about level 33-35ish it gets really good(when you pimp out Full Auto). I haven't had a problem soloing missions whatsoever.
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Tires
01.11.2012 , 12:31 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by UglyStik View Post
It's not as if it is bad to play Commando. I rarely ever read these forums because people have internet egos the size of Alaska(like you) Someone made a Commando and enjoyed it. Therefor he is a moron? Nerds act so big on websites.



I have a Commando speced in Gunnery. I like it so far - but each class has their job to do. When I'm in PVP I'm basically what people said before(a turret). If you want ranged DPS go Commando. Once you get to about level 33-35ish it gets really good(when you pimp out Full Auto). I haven't had a problem soloing missions whatsoever.
This is not what he said.

He was commenting on the idea that most forum-frequenting Commandos like to pigeon-hole Vanguards as 2nd class DPS and primary tanks.

As seen here:
Quote: Originally Posted by Darpo- View Post
Commando is the best for Dps, Vanguard is just for tanking.
This has not be shown to be true yet, even anecdotal-ly.

So the scenario he posits is one in which we find out that Vanguards do more DPS than Commandos and then people are upset b/c they have been told loudly and regularly that Commando DPS is vastly superior and the only thing vanguards are good at is Tanking.

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Aryzyra
01.11.2012 , 12:34 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Vindojeens View Post
I also understand that Trooper is not a real DPS class..I could play gunslinger for max ranged DPS but, oh dear, this whole taking cover thing is terrible.
I have a feeling when combat logs become available, there will be a lot of unhappy gunslingers. Just throwing that out there.

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ScottHK
01.12.2012 , 09:10 AM | #15
I've made a Trooper and just spec'd it Vanguard. I'm interested to see what I will be able to do as a Vanguard compared to what I can do as an Inqusitor. I can Solo (Solo as in with no other players) champions my own level as Inqusitor, will I be able to do so as a Vanguard?
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NightshadeBlue
01.14.2012 , 12:48 PM | #16
I heard the primary difference between Vanguard and Commando DPSers is Vanguard is great for area DPS and commando is great for single target DPS.

Is this true?
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Necodreus
01.14.2012 , 03:34 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by ScottHK View Post
I've made a Trooper and just spec'd it Vanguard. I'm interested to see what I will be able to do as a Vanguard compared to what I can do as an Inqusitor. I can Solo (Solo as in with no other players) champions my own level as Inqusitor, will I be able to do so as a Vanguard?
if its just a champion and no add ons, at 27 and Dorne i never go down under 70% health, before dorne i could do it but a lil harder and was close sometimes. depending on the mobs, i can pull off 2 elites, or 1 elite and 2 strong, most of the time. Im just an okay SS Vanguard, and im getting better... plus my equipment isnt the best either
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ltprudii
01.14.2012 , 03:54 PM | #18
Im a Vanguard Sheild spec. I usually rank top 5 in damage and kills in WZs. Sheild spec doesnt limit you to defensive gear. I run defensive main gear (the stuff on the right) and offensive offsets (stuff on the left). I do not feel as weak as if i wasnt using a sheild, nor do i feel like i have gimpy damage. A 2.4k stockstrike half the time is wondrous.

It makes you more of a real TANK, pardon the pun. But with a mix of gear damage is a lot more bursty. So yes Commandos can do a lot of damage, but the added survivability and more burst damage of Vanguards make them a real asset as well.

For defense in WZ, you can play on Objective longer. Have more opponents targeting you and not your team mates, slows them down. And with use of taunts and guard can help your team live longer along side you. So there is a lot of utility there which is overlooked.

For offence it works similarly. You can protect your team and help push faster. It also makes you a target. But in this way you can bait them. Run away from the objective while being targeted by multiple enemies and lure them away as the rest of your team goes for the objective. Countless times ive had about 3 or so Sit on me and my team was able to cap just because the Sith were more worried about me and had forgotten to look back.


So dealing damage isnt everything.


(sorry for the wall of text lol)
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Balanque
01.14.2012 , 04:06 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by ltprudii View Post
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(sorry for the wall of text lol)
Or sorry for the weird post about pvp? This was a pve-thread.

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harkain
01.14.2012 , 06:20 PM | #20
if this is for pve end game you should consider another class.

hardmodes require interupts and commando has none making them a pretty bad option for pve dps unless the group is made to suit around it (jedi tank and second dps having a 6sec recycle interupt)
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