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Official Turn Ashara Zavros Darkside Thread. (Spoilers)

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Official Turn Ashara Zavros Darkside Thread. (Spoilers)

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Ralanost
12.14.2011 , 10:34 PM | #41
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I think this is turning into a male pride thing, you can't walk into a bar in real life and leave with a good looking woman if you behave like an ahole to her. You can't fundamentally change a persons values and if you can, that person isn't worth very much in the first place.

It's pretty funny some people feel so strongly about an RP romance. I'd rather the money BioWare would spend on new voiceovers (compare light/dark jaessa) be spent on something the whole community could enjoy... like PvP content.
It's hardly a male pride thing. It is more that I wonder why as a sith inquisitor with very strong FORCE POWERS that I can not do what my class is specialized to do. Sith inquisitors decieve and corrupt, yet we can't corrupt our own apprentice? That seems weak to me and keeps me wonder why it is our only female companion at all if this is the case. Something to keep around to show us we aren't almighty sith lords? A constant slap in the face of our powers and authority IN OUR VERY SHIP? From a lore standpoint, it stinks.

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Jatne
12.14.2011 , 11:01 PM | #42
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It's hardly a male pride thing. It is more that I wonder why as a sith inquisitor with very strong FORCE POWERS that I can not do what my class is specialized to do. Sith inquisitors decieve and corrupt, yet we can't corrupt our own apprentice? That seems weak to me and keeps me wonder why it is our only female companion at all if this is the case. Something to keep around to show us we aren't almighty sith lords? A constant slap in the face of our powers and authority IN OUR VERY SHIP? From a lore standpoint, it stinks.
Because in lore Sith Lords, also known as 'siff lawds' have everything their own way? I've already clearly pointed out that Jedi Knight, one of the white knight classes has a majorly EVIL companion. They do it for the drama, it's there as a rub to contrast our story.

You don't have to like it, but, you do have to accept it. It's BioWares story.

I mean whilst we're at it, I think they should redo the story for Revan and the Jedi Knight ending... But, if I say that people are like "No, that's stupid..." and yet asking to have a relatively minor aspect of the story changed, when there are arguably much larger issues (if we are talking about changes people would like to see made per capita) it's fine. It just seems strange to me, I love the story how it is all through - perhaps that leaves me slightly bias.
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Ralanost
12.14.2011 , 11:13 PM | #43
Many jedi have fallen to the dark side. It isn't really that hard. And when you have a sith inquisitor pressuring you the whole time it makes it really hard to think straight. In both the videos in your thread it shows how angry she can get and how easy she can be to manipulate.

Mind you, I am not saying remove her light side options, I am just saying if you go through the proper effort she should be able to be turned the the dark side. It's what we do. To bring up some very specific examples, the skywalkers. Very much light side in affinity, but when they got angry they could be easily swayed from the honeyed words of a powerful sith lord.

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Jatne
12.14.2011 , 11:22 PM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by Ralanost View Post
Many jedi have fallen to the dark side. It isn't really that hard. And when you have a sith inquisitor pressuring you the whole time it makes it really hard to think straight. In both the videos in your thread it shows how angry she can get and how easy she can be to manipulate.

Mind you, I am not saying remove her light side options, I am just saying if you go through the proper effort she should be able to be turned the the dark side. It's what we do. To bring up some very specific examples, the skywalkers. Very much light side in affinity, but when they got angry they could be easily swayed from the honeyed words of a powerful sith lord.
I really hate getting down to the whole "dungeons and dragons" style debates with people, but, I will make a brief foray into dangerous territory...

Anakin Skywalker had a major trauma in his young life, being separated from his mother and then losing her because she was brutally murdered. He then killed dozens of natives... the guilt from that fueled his insecurity, which in turn fueled his rage. I don't need my (pending) degree in psychology to explain something that basic.

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Exar_Kressh
12.14.2011 , 11:48 PM | #45
If I turn her to the dark-side I'll have to kill her.

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Yoshirou
12.15.2011 , 03:44 AM | #46
I would like it if we can slowly turn her to the dark side over the next expansions/Content patches.

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PacketBurner
12.15.2011 , 08:34 AM | #47
Totally agree with the posts above about corrupting the companions, i assume they did this to make sure they don't need evil and nice versions of all the voice overs but that worries me for longer term... (has the fourth pillar been made a little too linear!!!)

I hoped to turn her and make my fem SI snuggle up to her and have her eat padawans on illium but seems fem on fem relationships and corrupting the companions (ala KOTOR 2) are both on my wishlist (and off my "do asap when getting my early access code")

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Noveos
12.15.2011 , 01:53 PM | #48
A shame my fem SI has to be her sugar momma in order to get some brownie points. No way in hell is she making LS choices.

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lokdron
12.15.2011 , 10:15 PM | #49
Right now it seems that if you get Ashara affection high enough she is at the tip of the iceberg in my opinion a LS SI would pull her back before she falls into darkness. A DS SI would either make her jump or push her off themselves. Plus I don't see a reason why a sith would keep a light sider around the only time I have seen a sith keep jedi alive is to convert them to the dark side. If not they kill them.

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nanohana
12.16.2011 , 04:45 AM | #50
there are far enough dark side companions available to inquisitors
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