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MortemXFive
06.09.2017 , 05:19 AM | #11
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I'm on the opposite side of the coin on this one. I'd rather my Sorcerer not even hold the lightsaber when throwing lightning around. Looks odd holding a lightsaber when using both hands to cast Force Lightning.

Odd? It's not like it hasn't been seen before SWTOR. I suppose for practical reasons, you have a point, and it would make sense to sheath a lightsaber before shooting lightning out of both hands, but it's been done with both Dooku and Starkiller last I checked. Personally I just agree with Vego, Sorceror/Sage needs at least 1 more saber ability back separate from Saber Strike, and Viktor pointed out solid concepts as well in my humble opinion.

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TalonVII
06.10.2017 , 04:31 PM | #12
Forget saber throw. I want to get rid of balance/madness and have a form 2 styled duelist. Could keep some of the single target lightning abilites, but give us some cool dooku styled duelist who uses force abilities.

Just my 2 cents.
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embrm
06.10.2017 , 09:18 PM | #13
I agree, I always thought it was stupid that in game your lightsaber was pretty much a symbol of your status and nothing more.

You either shocked people to death or throw rocks at people, the lightsaber was just in your offhand for show. In the lore though? Jedi and sith used sabers to compliment their force powers, I know it's a class specific thing and giving sorc a host of melee abilities would pretty much make it a shadow/assassin without the cloaking ability but...

I find it pretty stupid when I am surrounded by a bunch of enemies and all I can do to defend myself is use the force, when my saber in my left hand is just for show.

I don't mind it, but it still bugs me even after all these years after launch. I understand it's a balance thing... but It doesn't mean I have to like it.

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Luuin
06.10.2017 , 09:55 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by MortemXFive View Post
Odd? It's not like it hasn't been seen before SWTOR. I suppose for practical reasons, you have a point, and it would make sense to sheath a lightsaber before shooting lightning out of both hands, but it's been done with both Dooku and Starkiller last I checked. Personally I just agree with Vego, Sorceror/Sage needs at least 1 more saber ability back separate from Saber Strike, and Viktor pointed out solid concepts as well in my humble opinion.
I mean odd as in the way the player character holds the lightsaber while doing it, the animation is wonky, not that the feat of using both hands was foreign . The blade is almost smacking the character in the face because of how he holds it. The blade hovers in the hand and is angled in such a way that it almost clips through the head it's so close some times.

Need some more ability animation updates soon.

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Joysie
12.30.2017 , 06:38 AM | #15
I agree. I had such a great feel for Vilaaris, but now I barely recognise her and I don't enjoy playing her now.. And try as I might, I can't connect with the other classes....

Oh and yes.. The legacy unlock: Punch does more damage than our Saber Strike............................

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I've been trying really hard to get back into my Sage.

It's the class I've played the longest, going all the way back to the first beta testing, and I always enjoyed him until now.
Part of the reason is the WAY I play him. I conceived of the character as a kind of Jedi Batman, so he was quick to go into melee and mix it up with his lightsaber.

5.0 took away his only real lightsaber ability. Oh yes, he has Saber Strike, but the damage it does is SO tiny that it's barely noticeable, and the animation is weak and boring. The character is actually better off just punching the enemy.

It's really destroyed my ability to enjoy the character.

I know, it's something relatively trivial but the impact it's having is enormous.

I mean, Conuslars are JEDI. The thing that is most iconic about a Jedi is the LIGHTSABER, but now it's little more than a cosmetic item. It's diminished the class and made it feel less like a JEDI. This can be a crippling thing.

Now, I get it, you want to force players to only play a ranged combat style. I don't understand why, but if that's the case, give the saber some OTHER use. Include it in the activation of some of the other powers. Change something to let the character THROW the saber. Do whatever is needed to make the class feel like JEDI again.

Of course, the simplest solution is to give us back that one skill (Dual Slash for Sages, Thrash for Sorcerors).

Come on now, Bioware, remember this is STAR WARS.

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wmtyrance
01.02.2018 , 10:52 PM | #16
I will never understand what they are thinking with all the class changes they have made. They just seem stupid to me. I have two character boost on my account and i don't even want to use them for any of the classes now. I play a Sage also and miss not using my Lightsaber for something. All you do is hold the thing. Why don't they think this is silly. I just don't see how they can call Sages Jedi anymore.

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Ragtanathos
01.05.2018 , 03:05 AM | #17
so i have been locking for a cool locking lightsaber for my whole legacy does any one know where or how i can get one?

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WayOfTheWarriorx
01.05.2018 , 08:13 AM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by wmtyrance View Post
I will never understand what they are thinking with all the class changes they have made. They just seem stupid to me. I have two character boost on my account and i don't even want to use them for any of the classes now. I play a Sage also and miss not using my Lightsaber for something. All you do is hold the thing. Why don't they think this is silly. I just don't see how they can call Sages Jedi anymore.
How they thought that giving Sorcs a Lightsaber that they basically can't use without incuring a loss makes no sense. Who the hell wouldn't want to be able to use it some? Making a Lightsaber for Sorcs/Sages that functions primarily as a stat stick. Talk about a tease!

They should just replace an existing ability with a Lightsaber attack that does the same damage as the old ability.
The only issue with that is Sorcs/Sages are a ranged class and as Lightsaber attack range is only 4' that would put a Sorc/Sage in a position wherein once again, the attack actually hurts you because Sorcs/Sages can't face tank. That would than sacrifice the range of the former attack rendering a lightsaber attack extremely circumstantial in it's use.

I'm not really sure how it could be done without putting the Sorc/Sage in a compromising position due to the danger it would incur by being in melee range with enemy melee who are designed for that kind of combat.
Perhaps it could be rendered a Lightsaber throw so that they would only need to be at 10' to use it. At least it would be a lightsaber attack that doesn't compromise them so much and would force them into Melee attack range to use it.
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IrritatedZombie
01.07.2018 , 09:24 PM | #19
Eh, just wait a bit more, they will redo the class all over again.

But put me in the I would like a saber throw attack to at least mix up the animations a bit. All I do is lob balls of light

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BraverDre
01.08.2018 , 01:18 AM | #20
Irving and his team ruined the class in 5.0 . It is a fact. It has the worst dps classes that are useless because of this legendary utility that buoware gave us. I support this thread because changes that were made killed the class completely. I rerolled on mara cuz snipers and merc are ugly and from now on I never invite sorc to the group as dps. The only place where sorc dps is good are solo content and unranked warzones which are boring. Ty buoware for riuning this class.