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5.0 guide to optimal use of all reflects (operations only)

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5.0 guide to optimal use of all reflects (operations only)

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mwissie
11.30.2016 , 11:00 AM | #1
hey guys,
this is (obviously) a work in progress; but since I already had a compiled list of places where guardians can reflect, I thought I'd just edit it, to include all classes

the biggest thing for shadows, is that reflect doesn't actually prevent damage for us, but on the bright side, we have the longest duration on reflect (12+ seconds)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
feel free to comment, or share anything you've discovered (preferably with a combat log and/or video)

hope you like it, and find it useful ^^
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Numedain - NiM raiding Shadow tank

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Shrodinher
11.30.2016 , 11:52 AM | #2
Num, have you tested shadow reflect on Doom yet? If no let's go 6 shadows tfb
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Deaconik
12.01.2016 , 03:27 PM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by Shrodinher View Post
Num, have you tested shadow reflect on Doom yet? If no let's go 6 shadows tfb
Please note this reflect does not absorb the damage! Doom goes through Though the reflect isn't capped probably So it may be worth xD
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mwissie
12.01.2016 , 05:11 PM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by Deaconik View Post
Please note this reflect does not absorb the damage! Doom goes through Though the reflect isn't capped probably So it may be worth xD
if there's no cap, on nightmare you could just sacrifice the life of 1 dps to one shot 1 of the bosses
I've tried it out with mando, did like 40k dmg, and a few M threat (a bit liker saber reflect)
still want to try it out with shadow though
Numendar - Sage healer
Numedain - NiM raiding Shadow tank

guide to all reflecting

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Deaconik
12.01.2016 , 06:29 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by mwissie View Post
if there's no cap, on nightmare you could just sacrifice the life of 1 dps to one shot 1 of the bosses
I've tried it out with mando, did like 40k dmg, and a few M threat (a bit liker saber reflect)
still want to try it out with shadow though
looks so. HM Trasher - 60k reflect
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mwissie
12.02.2016 , 06:31 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Deaconik View Post
looks so. HM Trasher - 60k reflect
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"Money Boss" in S&V HM(I think )
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that doesn't mean there's no cap on reflect, only that it's above 82k

I have already noticed a few more things about reflect though

1. it doesn't last as long as deflection (neither does the puddle of yellow pee); since it ignores the 2 seconds increased duration from the setbonus
2. it does more damage than the damage you take; it probably calculates the reflected damage, before considering any of your defences (except when you resist, if resisting, the reflect isn't triggered)

my parse of doing thrasher HM for anyone interested btw http://parsely.io/parser/view/217596; did nearly 3.2k dps with reflect
Numendar - Sage healer
Numedain - NiM raiding Shadow tank

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Deaconik
12.02.2016 , 07:35 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by mwissie View Post
that doesn't mean there's no cap on reflect, only that it's above 82k

I have already noticed a few more things about reflect though

1. it doesn't last as long as deflection (neither does the puddle of yellow pee); since it ignores the 2 seconds increased duration from the setbonus
2. it does more damage than the damage you take; it probably calculates the reflected damage, before considering any of your defences (except when you resist, if resisting, the reflect isn't triggered)

my parse of doing thrasher HM for anyone interested btw http://parsely.io/parser/view/217596; did nearly 3.2k dps with reflect
Well I wrote there the word "probably". The question is where's the cap. Even a hit for 200k would be sufficient.

The other thing is - IIRC tanks don't receive the doom(and I am really rusty in TFB! so I may be wrong) and DPS has only 50 % chance to reflect, so...

Edit> Technologically speaking there has to be a cap because of the memory size of the variable
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Tsetso
12.03.2016 , 06:03 PM | #9
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LOL. That was just hilarious
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Tsetso
12.03.2016 , 06:19 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by Deaconik View Post
Please note this reflect does not absorb the damage! Doom goes through Though the reflect isn't capped probably So it may be worth xD
Haha, but reflect + shroud does
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