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OneHit
06.22.2017 , 02:33 AM | #131
Quote: Originally Posted by Eli_Porter View Post
He isn't saying that every complaint gets ignored, nor is he complaining or whining about mean people saying mean things.

He's saying that non-constructive complaints aren't that useful as feedback tools, so he tends to pay less attention to them. You wanna deliver feedback with some anger and vitriol, go right ahead, but don't expect the devs to pay extra attention to your posts unless they contain something actually constructive.
We tried that already. So far it got us 2 years of story chapters and RNG. If they wanted constructive critism then they should have took it before they ruined the game.

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Eli_Porter
06.22.2017 , 02:37 AM | #132
Quote: Originally Posted by OneHit View Post
We tried that already. So far it got us 2 years of story chapters and RNG. If they wanted constructive critism then they should have took it before they ruined the game.
You tried that with a different game director, perhaps give this one a chance before unleashing your frustrations on him.

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OneHit
06.22.2017 , 02:45 AM | #133
Quote: Originally Posted by Eli_Porter View Post
You tried that with a different game director, perhaps give this one a chance before unleashing your frustrations on him.
Gladly. As soon as they give me my $540 bones back. Till then I paid for it.

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Alssaran
06.22.2017 , 02:49 AM | #134
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Not necessarily. It can also be an indication of an uninteresting or unnecessary wall of text. I am used to read and write long, uninteresting and unnecessary texts. In the case of the text you defend, I stopped after two paragraphs, because I realised it is not worth my time.
Of course it's not worth your time. It was a response to a specific person on the 11th page of a post, and it contained mostly information and personal opinion that was stated on this forum time and time again. "Interesting" is what I'd aim for if my post was supposed to open a thread, start a new discussion about a certain topic/issue, or suggest a new gameplay mechanic/enhancement.

If you have been around for more than three months, or have been here at any point during 4.0 or 5.0, you'll have heard the "factual" stuff in there a thousand times. The opinion stuff doesn't really matter.

And that's what skimming a text is for, and why TL;DR are a completely useless phenomenon for myself. I read the first sentence of every paragraph. I don't read an entire wall of text paragraph by paragraph to decipher the rough meaning/information/opinion of the person writing it. First sentences only, and you have maybe 2 paragraphs to read for the most crucial information. If I want to discuss it, I'll read further. If the topic is a "meh" topic for me, I don't and discard it. I'd agree that it's far too uninteresting if this was supposed to open a meaningful discussion about issues or was a broad thread-starter for suggestions. But with things like this, I don't need interesting. I can read the first paragraphs and find out whether I want to argue the case or whether I agree by skimming in a "first-line-jump" manner. You can actually read only the first two sentences of each paragraph and get my entire argumentation and reason. No need to bother with the entire wall.

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Eli_Porter
06.22.2017 , 03:01 AM | #135
Quote: Originally Posted by OneHit View Post
Gladly. As soon as they give me my $540 bones back. Till then I paid for it.
That's not how subscriptions for this game work.

Don't expect $15 a month to guarantee the developmental changes you want.

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OneHit
06.22.2017 , 03:07 AM | #136
Quote: Originally Posted by Eli_Porter View Post
That's not how subscriptions for this game work.

Don't expect $15 a month to guarantee the developmental changes you want.
Right. And I understand that. But for the 15 they are going to hear about it if it doesn't deliver.

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Icykill_
06.22.2017 , 03:11 AM | #137
Quote: Originally Posted by KeithKanneg View Post


Even though it's not perfect, it is no longer the primary means of gearing up, but the changes we implemented allow every level 70 character to obtain BiS gear without doing Operations. I disagree with the notion we should rip it out now, but I do agree we can still improve upon it and will continue to do so.

---Keith
Keith, I feel I need to make a point here. Even though every character can now obtain BiS gear outside of OPs, it doesn't help the plight of the "pvp only" player.
Sure we can gear in pvp, that's a given, but it is much slower than OPs and there is already a massive gear gap in pvp.
I only pvp, it's why I still play the game after 5 years. Most dedicated pvpers want skill vs skill pvp, not gear vs gear. It's why you had the great pvp gearing system prior to 5.x and you'd perfected during 4.x. Bolster was set so you could be competive as you entered pvp and until you got your reg pvp gear, which was fast. The gap between reg and ranked pvp gear was small and still made for skill vs skill pvp with minimal gear issues. Even back then gear at the top lvl bolstered over its lvl. You could see a definite difference when you entered a WZ and your ranked gear increased in stats. This is what is needed at the moment for pvp.

After 5.0 launched you guys had Bolster set at 250. That appeared to be similar to the old system and the 250 Bolster worked. Pvp was about skill vs skill and not gear vs gear. People who still had the highest gear had better stats, but the stat difference was small. When you guys nerfed it, you created a noticeable gear gap.

Why is this a problem? I'm glad you asked.
Because it is not fun pvping and getting ground up like mince meat, match after match because some people had taken the quicker root of gearing in OPs. It's also not fun grinding with such a big gap.
This is an issue for anyone who just enters lvl 70 pvp in the lowest bracket, wether it's someone who just reached lvl 70 or someone with an alt. This has actually driven some dedicated pvpers out of the game or encouraged them not play lvl 70 or not to lvl alts.The pvp gear gap is real and the grind isn't just a gear grind like OPs, it's actually ruining people's experience.

I understand why the gear takes longer to get through pvp and I know you want to make CXP gearing relevant. But the gearing can still be relevant without the gear gap. People can still obtain their gear through pvp to play pve content like OPs.
Pvpers don't need a gear incentive to play more pvp or stay subscribed, we arent players like raiders who are progression based on gear and we never have been. We pvp purely for the joy of pitting our skills against each other, most of us would do it naked without gear. All the current system has done is make us not want to play because the joy of skill vs skill has gone.

One solution that still makes the current gear system viable is to put Bolster back to 250. People would then have less of a gear gap to contend with. The people with BiS would also still be rewarded and have higher stats, as demonstrated with the old pvp gearing-Bolster in 4.x and also demonstrated in the 5.0 launch window when it was 250.

So Please Keith... look at putting Bolster back up to close the gear gap... make pvp fun again and skill vs skill... gear vs gear is not person vs person combat.
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MeNaCe-NZ
06.22.2017 , 03:12 AM | #138
Quote: Originally Posted by Alssaran View Post
I'll keep it in mind for future use though. My point, however, still stands.
Which was what? TLDR remember?

I got up to "I'm super qualified to use the forums" and stopped reading and that was before I even realized it was too long. :P

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MeNaCe-NZ
06.22.2017 , 03:15 AM | #139
Quote: Originally Posted by DarkSaberMaster View Post
No need to condense what you wrote for the few people who are too lazy to read. It's an indication of a poor attention span, not on your ability to provide a "TL;DR". It's why this generation relies on emojies and "lols" to communicate. Personally. I think it's a tragedy.
Pretty sure "Personally" isn't a sentence in and of itself? What would I know though, I've got the attention of a gold fish apparently.

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MeNaCe-NZ
06.22.2017 , 03:18 AM | #140
Quote: Originally Posted by JattaGin View Post
Not necessarily. It can also be an indication of an uninteresting or unnecessary wall of text. I am used to read and write long, uninteresting and unnecessary texts. In the case of the text you defend, I stopped after two paragraphs, because I realised it is not worth my time. A TL;DR would have maybe shown me that I missed something interesting and would have made me skim the text. Maybe.
^This.
Also previous experience with the poster reminds me that responses turn into further walls of text that in turn become rather non-sensical and "you're wrong, I'm right".
I don't think I could do that to myself again, especially after he ran away after our last discussion and I put some reasonable time into that.