Allcoast Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) I am reading the Patch notes and it appears that there are alot of player nerfs incoming? Am I mis-reading or is this fact? Edited December 7, 2015 by Allcoast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayble Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Nope you are reading just fine. Bioware swings! And....its a miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allcoast Posted December 7, 2015 Author Share Posted December 7, 2015 It seems that alot of abilities are being squashed from 30% to 10% or 15%. This appears to be major, from 1/3rd to half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psikofunkster Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) Snipers and powertechs are getting the big nerf isn't that amazing??? TY EA Edited December 7, 2015 by psikofunkster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigvaldson Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 It seems that alot of abilities are being squashed from 30% to 10% or 15%. This appears to be major, from 1/3rd to half. Especially with burst. Reducing critical damage by 20% on some abilities is huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayble Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Seem's they screwed the PVP'ers over just as much as the PVE'ers this time, with burst decimated, good luck getting those healers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JourrnoRush Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 As a sage/sorc I love it. As a sage/sorc I'm sorry guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltimateKrucible Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 As a sage/sorc I love it. As a sage/sorc I'm sorry guys I'm sorry too. You'll be lonely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myracarrah Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 But it's all okay because our Companions can crit for 30k while in DPS mode at Influence 35! *facepalms* Moral of the story, never complain about Companion Nerfs.... because you will get hit with the nerf bat next. And second moral Never complain about balancing for PVP, because this is what you get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltimateKrucible Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) And second moral Never complain about balancing for PVP, because this is what you get. This isn't a PvP balance. PvP is so out of whack with healers dominating it's barely functioning. So then along comes BW and nerfs damage ... esp BURST damage. This patch breaks PvP completely. Edited December 7, 2015 by UltimateKrucible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myracarrah Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 This isn't a PvP balance. PvP is so out of whack with healers dominating it's barely functioning. So then along comes BW and nerfs damage ... esp BURST damage. This patch breaks PvP completely. Yes this patch does. However this is Bioware's response to asking for PVP balance. You and I both know it's a dumb fix... but Bioware hasn't gotten that memo yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruskaeth Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 That operative / scoundrel dps was too stronk. Stellar job, BW. Stellar job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jadescythe Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 It seems that alot of abilities are being squashed from 30% to 10% or 15%. This appears to be major, from 1/3rd to half. No, it is lowering the crit bonus damage multiplier. You already have around 60-70% boost from your crit stat at max level, the passive that provided an additional 30% is now an additional 10%. So the passive abilitiy got nerfed significantly, but the overall impact on burst won't be that much. The overall impact on sustained damage of burst classes will go down significantly. Outside of Operatives, it appears to be a pass at lowering the damage of the non-sustain damage specs of classes and hit Sniper especially hard since they are also ranged rather than melee. Long ago they stated that sustained melee > sustained range > burst melee > burst range. The numbers may not be ideal, but if you look at the theoretical DPS outputs based on the numbers, it more accurately portrays this philosophy than before where AP, Engineering, Deception, and Marksman were all in the top 5 or so. TL;DR Will have to wait for the patch to see how things fall, but you certainly aren't being nerfed by 30-50%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offence Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) Nope you are reading just fine. Bioware swings! And....its a miss. Actually it's a home run , just gotta wipe them glasses clean to see it. Edited December 7, 2015 by offence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladedarkman Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Yes!!!! I love these upcoming nerfs! Dps guardians are back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skaara Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Yup, you are reading it right. I'm just gonna sit over here in my corner being quietly happy I don't main any of those classes. Pvp is going to be such a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagy Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 healing was already op in pvp, how are people supposed to die now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackosaur Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Actually it's a home run , just gotta wipe them glasses clean to see it. Go on then, regale us.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackosaur Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 healing was already op in pvp, how are people supposed to die now? Ask them nicely to go away? Seriously though this is the biggest indirect Sage/Sorc pvp buff they could have made, they've utterly neutered the classes that actually had a shot at putting sorc/sage healer down (or at least pressuring them) while simultaneously failing to address any of the glaring issues with Sorc/Sage healing (and to a lesser extent dps) The fact that SS/MM/Engi/Sab and AP/Tactics went from top of the dmg tree to rock bottom (if the preliminary math pans out SS/MM will be the lowest parsing spec in the game by quite a margin) is just the rich fail gravy topping. That said, Snipers and Slingers were always in demand for PvE , even when we're not topping dummy parses we can lay down our dps very effectively in actual enounters and have good utility so we'll survive I'm sure, but the level of the nerf seems overly punitive to me. Such is life, one minute you're up, the next you're down and next week/month/year it will be somebody elses turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caldonia Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 bioware wants everyone to play a Sage it looks like not enough people were playing lets nerf till we see more sages is the the reasoning behind these ****** changes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uruare Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Nerfs! Much excite! Must tell all friends! So much joy! ... Said nobody ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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