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Daystarr
01.09.2012 , 12:34 AM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by theonepanda View Post
Deception is very much like a rogue.

And as far as I can tell I do more dps than operatives.

You are definitely not a support class.

Assassin dps is great >.>

Also what do you support with? Your slow, which sorcs get too? Your spike, which you can use once?

Darkness certainly plays like a DK more than a rogue, but that is to be expected, as you're kinda doing the very opposite of rogues do, standing in front of a boss and punching it.

Madness has its dots and probably isn't terribly roguelike, but it is the shared tree between sorcs and assassins.
I agree with panda! Although OP has merit, this class, depending on what spec you play, has totally different playstyles.

The only utility/support we have is in Darkness, where Madness is a mid-range dps tree and Deception is all about picking your battles and dishing out the pain.

I want to say l2p to anyone who QQs about how crap our damage is (lol, wait) and ultimately that is the bottom line, learning to play, but cmon guys, if you're gonna whine about how bad the class is then re-roll and see if you feel the same way

Although I'm still levelling atm, I observed a lvl 49 Operative against my own damage done and could see, clearly, I was dealing a lot more damage than he was (and I was lvl 46)
Coral -
- Aseko - Marauder // Akeso - Assassin -
- Akkyvineus - Shadow // Aseka - Sentinel -
Stream // Hybrid Sin - Dat Push! - Carnage Op - Failbang

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Mastodonic
01.09.2012 , 01:57 AM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by theonepanda View Post
Deception is very much like an enhance shaman
Fix'd it for you as you seemed a little confused.

You're welcome.

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Serenoir
01.09.2012 , 03:10 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by theonepanda View Post
Deception is very much like a rogue.

And as far as I can tell I do more dps than operatives.

You are definitely not a support class.

Assassin dps is great >.>

Also what do you support with? Your slow, which sorcs get too? Your spike, which you can use once?

Darkness certainly plays like a DK more than a rogue, but that is to be expected, as you're kinda doing the very opposite of rogues do, standing in front of a boss and punching it.

Madness has its dots and probably isn't terribly roguelike, but it is the shared tree between sorcs and assassins.
i lold when i read this
so let us think a second which class is more like the darksin:
has a shield with 8 charges that must be rebuffed every ~12sec
has aoe abilities to tank
every time dmg got avoided/mitigated regens 2% of ressources

ye definitively dk
or maybe the tankadin?
because of this one spell, force pull, u see a dk? i pitty u boy

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Sentient_Six
01.09.2012 , 03:57 AM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Serenoir View Post
i lold when i read this
so let us think a second which class is more like the darksin:
has a shield with 8 charges that must be rebuffed every ~12sec
has aoe abilities to tank
every time dmg got avoided/mitigated regens 2% of ressources

ye definitively dk
or maybe the tankadin?
because of this one spell, force pull, u see a dk? i pitty u boy
I would like to dispute your point, but for the life of me I cannot decipher enough of your post to find one.

Your grammar makes deliberation a practical impossibility.

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Cowflab
01.09.2012 , 06:59 AM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Mastodonic View Post
Fix'd it for you as you seemed a little confused.

You're welcome.
That's pretty much how i see it. Imo, when breaking it down into WoW terms it goes something like this...

Darkness - Plays similar to a Blood DK that can stealth

Deception - Plays like an Enhancement Shaman that can stealth

Madness hybrid - Plays like an Unholy DK that can stealth

Pure Madness - Plays like a Warlock that can stealth and has melee abilities.

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Spongino
01.09.2012 , 07:27 AM | #16
great post in my opinion this class it's very good

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Guodan
01.09.2012 , 07:31 AM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Cowflab View Post
Deception - Plays like an Enhancement Shaman that can stealth.
I'm not so sure about this, as from my personal experience, most of a Deception Assassin's DPS seems to come from Maul; an ability which can only be used when you're behind the target.

In this light, I think that Assassins actually do play as WoW Rogues, Assassination Rogues to be more specific, although Assassins admittedly do have a lot more utility.

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LordMorning
01.09.2012 , 07:51 AM | #18
Stealth - Rogue
Maul - Rogue
Mind Trap - Rogue
Force Cloak _ Rogue

Charge System - Ret Pally

Saber Strike - Deathknight
Thrash - Deathknight

Etc...


All of the classes in SWOTOR seem built off multiple pieces of the WoW versions with a mix of the traditional aspects.

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Daystarr
01.09.2012 , 08:43 AM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by LordMorning View Post
Stealth - Rogue
Maul - Rogue
Mind Trap - Rogue
Force Cloak _ Rogue

Charge System - Ret Pally

Saber Strike - Deathknight
Thrash - Deathknight

Etc...


All of the classes in SWOTOR seem built off multiple pieces of the WoW versions with a mix of the traditional aspects.
No, it really doesn't rofl. You guys need to stop comparing Assassin class to WoW classes, they are entirely different. I play my sin and I dont feel like a rogue, ret pally, or dk.
Coral -
- Aseko - Marauder // Akeso - Assassin -
- Akkyvineus - Shadow // Aseka - Sentinel -
Stream // Hybrid Sin - Dat Push! - Carnage Op - Failbang

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alement
01.09.2012 , 08:48 AM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by Alicar View Post
I faceroll in pvp lol.
This.

Deception spec, with the remainder of points put in Darkness. I think I'm 5/36/0. This class isn't difficult if you spec your character correctly and use all the skills available to you (Assasinate, Lacerate, Low Slash, Spike - not just thrash, maul, shock, repeat).

To me, this class and a high level Jugg are the easiest to PvP with. I never have the top DPS or Protection in Warzones. Ever. But I usually rank in the top 3, if not first, and average 7 medals per round.

I also go in with Dark Charge (and shield generator in off hand), and a reusable med pack. Protection points and healing points are your friend.
Alementy- 55 Assassin, Darkness Spec.
GreenishSage. 55 Sorceror, Corruption spec,