sir_oliver Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Hey folks, As we talked about a bit on the stream, there are some gearing changes happening with Knights of the Eternal Throne. For starters, I recommend you read this thread where I have provided more detail on the changes. The purpose of this thread is to go over how these changes will impact PvE and PvP gearing. Here are some more of those details: Expertise is being removed from the game.Any color crystals which have Expertise on them will be converted to a new type of color crystal – Mastery.There is no longer an Expertise requirement to get into Ranked Warzones, this will be replaced with a Valor requirement.PvE and PvP will share the same gear in Eternal Throne.Crystals and Warzone Commendations will also be phased out in Eternal Throne, we will have more details on our conversion plans in the coming weeks. That covers an overview of how the changes will impact PvP and PvE gear in Eternal Throne. Please let me know of any questions you may have and I will work with the team to get you answers. -eric Lol. I am out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teclado Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 If expertise is going away, I'm wondering what this means for bolster. Obviously, the lower level warzones will still need some bolster due to level disparity. But at level 70, is bolster even going to be necessary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unibim Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 If expertise is going away, I'm wondering what this means for bolster. Obviously, the lower level warzones will still need some bolster due to level disparity. But at level 70, is bolster even going to be necessary? Obviously, yes. To keep those "hardcore" pve scrubs from earning high numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinQCowart Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 If they are going to drop expertise they need to drop accuracy too. Does this even require an explanation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Nala Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I wonder how this will shake out. If I understand the devs right, we might be better off. PvP might give really good returns on time invested. Not a fan of the random crap though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsetso Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I wonder how this will shake out. If I understand the devs right, we might be better off. PvP might give really good returns on time invested. Not a fan of the random crap though. We already had that in 1.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Nala Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 If expertise is going away, I'm wondering what this means for bolster. Obviously, the lower level warzones will still need some bolster due to level disparity. But at level 70, is bolster even going to be necessary? Yes in regulars, otherwise we go back to the days where many people are dead weight until they gear up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Nala Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 We already had that in 1.0 I remember, was not fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsetso Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I remember, was not fun. Yep. Although i still keep it somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alericus Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 none of this matters for those of us on dead servers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptRogue Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 none of this matters for those of us on dead servers Shh, they don't care about you. Might I suggest a song for your listening pleasure as well: Everythings fine, "lots of new players are joining the game, and they don't really want people to have queues" "A lot of the servers will start to feel really full soon". "No plans for it right now" - Ben, from the live stream. Seriously though, I don't what BW is thinking...or not thinking. Ridiculous. All I can say is transfer out when you can. One toon at a time using your CC monthly grants. And your 1 free server transfer if you haven't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Bob- Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 First the presidential nominees, now this............I don't have much faith in this decision. I'll try it out but i suspect my time is limited for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoforcer Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) Lol. I am out. expertise was garbage from the word go. All this does is make it so hard core pvp and pver casuals are on the same playing field. You will still own a pver as most of them are just bad and still fight hard core pvper with some fee to the fight so nothing change other then getting gear. hard core pvpers will gear faster then casuals pver. The more time you put in the faster you get gear Edited October 18, 2016 by Neoforcer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frosttj Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 expertise was garbage from the word go. All this does is make it so hard core pvp and pver casuals are on the same playing field. You will still own a pver as most of them are just bad and still fight hard core pvper with some fee to the fight so nothing change other then getting gear. hard core pvpers will gear faster then casuals pver. The more time you put in the faster you get gear can't wait to be maxed out in command rank and just non stop farming to get a bracer that rngesus is denying me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmorrisson Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 The more you play (subscribe) to the game the better you will be at winning against someone who hasn't played (subscribed) as much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabzeros Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 The more you play (subscribe) to the game the better you will be at winning against someone who hasn't played (subscribed) as much Nah sub time has nothing to do with it lol. PvP's just theorycrafting, execution, and instinct. I've seen regstars play 8v8's since I started playing and they're still bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabzeros Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Heyy at least I can gear for pvp by playing HM fps instead of the garbage that is 8v8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VharexDependus Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Never- not once in the history of the game have I been concerned enough to post, but... this is impressive. Like... No. Just no. Terrible idea is terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xertasian Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 i'm hoping they not trying to do pre WOW..when they had no kind of element to seperate pve and pvp gear..meaning the scrubby pve raid players gear will be best in game..people like me who dont care to pve i be force to do the crap just to keep up.. alot of people dont care to pve..i mean herp derp a NPC for hours at end..to each there own..dont force this on everybody..i played games that didnt use any kind of element to seperate pve and pvp gear..it was a murder fest for the top raiding guilds in pvp wz's..with the best gear in game.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primarch_PWnD Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) i'm hoping they not trying to do pre WOW..when they had no kind of element to seperate pve and pvp gear..meaning the scrubby pve raid players gear will be best in game..people like me who dont care to pve i be force to do the crap just to keep up.. alot of people dont care to pve..i mean herp derp a NPC for hours at end..to each there own..dont force this on everybody..i played games that didnt use any kind of element to seperate pve and pvp gear..it was a murder fest for the top raiding guilds in pvp wz's..with the best gear in game.. The irony is that the only people who will be geared enough to queue for ranked will be the raiders, while the people like me who log in just so that I can play warzones and ranked arenas will take months to be able to move on to ranked. Edited October 18, 2016 by Primarch_PWnD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhezvya Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 alot of people dont care to pve..i mean herp derp a NPC for hours at end..to each there own..dont force this on everybody... This. If I'd want some challenging button smashing I'd play Battletoads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helpmewin Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) Graz to everyone who like 24/7 RNG grind. And graz all casuals(including myself) who have not enough time to grind this RNG **** top gear in future to be a food for overgeared nerds. Edited October 18, 2016 by helpmewin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVTCarnage Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 It's ok because well... Red Dead 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Bob- Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 The irony is that the only people who will be geared enough to queue for ranked will be the raiders, while the people like me who log in just so that I can play warzones and ranked arenas will take months to be able to move on to ranked. most Raiders wont have enough valor to do ranked and probably wont bother to chase it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebdar Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 So PAY TO WIN model officially confirmed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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