mitigated Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I have been very intrigued by his character since playing the game, and have read as many articles as I can pull up on the net. I am by no means a lore junkie and have only read a few of the EU books, nothing on the Old Republic. One of the articles I read on him stated something along the lines of him having become so powerful in his hatred that it was like he was the eye of calm in the center of hatred within the dark side... to me that's pretty damn wicked, and we have seen him handle a lot of Jedi like ragdolls, so for those who know more, how strong is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckmann Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Not very. Let's not ruin this for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitigated Posted February 1, 2012 Author Share Posted February 1, 2012 Not very. Let's not ruin this for him. So in comparison to let's say.... Darth Maul? I did read the Maul books, so I have a pretty good understanding on who he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckmann Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) So in comparison to let's say.... Darth Maul? I did read the Maul books, so I have a pretty good understanding on who he was. There's not really such a thing as "power level" in Star Wars. People die when they're supposed to die. Judging from his final battle, Darth Maul was a pushover. In this regard, Darth Malgus is several times stronger. Darth Maul was two-manned. Darth Malgus would take at least, like, four people or something to kill. Edited February 1, 2012 by Luckmann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitigated Posted February 1, 2012 Author Share Posted February 1, 2012 There's not really such a thing as "power level" in Star Wars. People die when they're supposed to die. Judging from his final battle, Darth Maul was a pushover. In this regard, Darth Malgus is several times stronger. Darth Maul was two-manned. Darth Malgus would take at least, like, four people or something to kill. Lol I like the comparison, however I feel it was Maul's arrogance that got him killed as he handled both QGJ and Obi without a problem, and took QGJ easily 1 on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptoss Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Darth Maul was killed easily because George Lucas didn't know how to make a good movie and CGI back then costed too much, so they had to cut back on the budget. The only way to do Star Wars any justice with future movies or media is to do it ala Avatar style or with comics because game trailers have spoiled us all. I don't care how much you loved the muppets or hand puppet yoda, that **** isn't going to do it for me anymore. Darth Malgus is pretty powerful in the (lore). He took down Ven Zallow, the jedi in the trailer, defeated Satele's master the zabrak and is now at least on par with her in strength. As Satele is the head of the jedi order, I think that also puts Malgus somewhere pretty far uptop on the power meter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraidy Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Also Malgus has a strong legacy, so strong it inspired Darth Vader. So he does seem to be very powerful, also as the above poster said. He is almost or equal to Master Shan. Remember, had it not been for that trooper, Shan would have died on Alderaan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitigated Posted February 1, 2012 Author Share Posted February 1, 2012 Also Malgus has a strong legacy, so strong it inspired Darth Vader. So he does seem to be very powerful, also as the above poster said. He is almost or equal to Master Shan. Remember, had it not been for that trooper, Shan would have died on Alderaan. She would have been dead on the Korriban orbital station as well had it not been for her Master. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraidy Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 She would have been dead on the Korriban orbital station as well had it not been for her Master. I give that a pass because she was still a young Jedi at the time, on Alderaan she was alot stronger in the force. They are roughly equals. Dammit Bioware why did you not give us the choice to side with him!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkestDaemon Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I give that a pass because she was still a young Jedi at the time, on Alderaan she was alot stronger in the force. They are roughly equals. Dammit Bioware why did you not give us the choice to side with him!!!! They aren't equal. Satele was going to lose if it wasn't for Jace (Jaece?) tackling Malgus and detonating a grenade in his face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitigated Posted February 1, 2012 Author Share Posted February 1, 2012 They aren't equal. Satele was going to lose if it wasn't for Jace (Jaece?) tackling Malgus and detonating a grenade in his face. Which he shook off like it was a minor blow..... pure hatred and power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlyxDinas Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 As powerful as the story needs him to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkestDaemon Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 As powerful as the story needs him to be. Oh, you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girdeux Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 There's not really such a thing as "power level" in Star Wars. People die when they're supposed to die. Judging from his final battle, Darth Maul was a pushover. In this regard, Darth Malgus is several times stronger. Darth Maul was two-manned. Darth Malgus would take at least, like, four people or something to kill. Hahahaha are you serious? Maul was trained by the strongest Sith Lord EVER, The jedi during the Prequal trilogy were the strongest jedi of any era according to Lucas. With Maul giving 2 of them a run for there money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptoss Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Which he shook off like it was a minor blow..... pure hatred and power If you read the Deceived novel, then you would know Malgus took the loss at Alderaan pretty badly. Taking on Jace and Satele at the same time was a mistake, and that's how he got so injured he had to wear a respirator for the rest of his life. I mean, he took on like 2 grenades to the face, plus his entire body was smashed into a solid stone wall with face in front. Malgus is what you would call a berserker. He doesn't really feel anything from a battle until it's over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckmann Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Hahahaha are you serious? Maul was trained by the strongest Sith Lord EVER, The jedi during the Prequal trilogy were the strongest jedi of any era according to Lucas. With Maul giving 2 of them a run for there money Lucas is also an inconsistent hack of a writer with a love for mary sues. Add to that the fact that the movies and the EU exist in separate continuities and nobody cares. Maul was a pushover with interpretative dancing as a hobby. He would've done better at ballet than lightsaber combat. Also, saying that Darth Sidious is the strongest Sith Lord ever, when we have someone like Lord Vitiate right in front of us.. haha, oh wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omnitheo Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Hahahaha are you serious? Maul was trained by the strongest Sith Lord EVER, The jedi during the Prequal trilogy were the strongest jedi of any era according to Lucas. With Maul giving 2 of them a run for there money Maul was barely trained by Sidious, he was more tuned as a weapon, but it would be hard to call him a true Sith. Technically, Maul doesn't even fit into the rule of two. This is all from the Darth Plagueis book. Maul didn't even know that Sidious himself was the apprentice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwarok Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Darth Maul was a ******. Right up until he died to a move that somehow took him by surprise even though he'd been handling 2 jedi solo for the previous 5 minutes. I think someone hit the nail on the head in a previous post, Maul died because Lucas couldn't come up with a better plotline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karaiblis Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I give that a pass because she was still a young Jedi at the time She was young and still had a master at the time yes, but Malgus was also young and there with his Master at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraidy Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 She was young and still had a master at the time yes, but Malgus was also young and there with his Master at that point. Remember though, Sith training is brutal, and Malgus hated failure. He used his strength, weight and hatred in his fights. He destroyed her(almost killing her) and her master(also destroying the second lightsaber) and killed his master because he was angry at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballindaroch Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Lucas is also an inconsistent hack of a writer with a love for mary sues. Add to that the fact that the movies and the EU exist in separate continuities and nobody cares. Maul was a pushover with interpretative dancing as a hobby. He would've done better at ballet than lightsaber combat. Also, saying that Darth Sidious is the strongest Sith Lord ever, when we have someone like Lord Vitiate right in front of us.. haha, oh wow. Actually is pretty well established that Sidous is the most powerful Sith ever. (If you take GL's word) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckmann Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Actually is pretty well established that Sidous is the most powerful Sith ever. (If you take GL's word) I think I just settled that I don't. It's hilarious that people are take GL's word for it when it's plain as day that other characters in the EU are blatantly more powerful than Sidious on virtually every level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelousWang Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) Lore wise he is weaker then Lord Scourge, Darth Angrel and Darth Bara's, who is weaker than the Jedi Knight and weaker than the Sith Warrior. The Sith Inquisitor is likely stronger than him too. The Emperor is the all powerful, only second to Sidious, lore wise. "Emperors Voices" - puppet bodies the Emperor uses. The Sith Warrior is strong enough to beat Darth Bara's who is strong enough to beat one of the Emperors "Voices" The Jedi Knight is strong enough to beat another one of the the Emperors "Voices". Lord Scourge is more powerful than the entire Dark Council combined. Which probably means the Sith Warrior/Jedi Knight is too (though I would exclude Darth Nox). Darth Malgus is not strong enough to take on the entire Dark Council combined, he has also excepted Darth Marr, Darth Angrel and Darth Bara's as his superiors (as he hasn't challenged their authority). So why does it take four people to kill him? Gameplay. Edited February 1, 2012 by AngelousWang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraidy Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Actually is pretty well established that Sidous is the most powerful Sith ever. (If you take GL's word) GL also created a laughable origin for the force, something that many EU writers, including Bioware ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenericallyNamed Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) Actually is pretty well established that Sidous is the most powerful Sith ever. (If you take GL's word) Not really arguing with it, but during that commentary was it obvious if Lucas was talking about fighting and force ability? Sidous controlled the galaxy; it's undeniable that he's the most powerful Sith in that respect. Having all the force power you want doesn't compare to ruling everything. In terms of raw fighting power, which is what most people argue about, the movies don't show much (Or any save one short and questionable scene) of Sidous' strength. And of course the power creep of people becoming more and more grand as more stories are created makes things seen in a 70s (And even 200s) live action movie seem lack luster. Edited February 1, 2012 by GenericallyNamed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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