primadeluxe Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 I play Vengeance juggernaut. IM decent at pvp but no legend at it. And i have been having a lot of troubble fighitng sins in duel. Whats a good way to fight a sin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastiano Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 I play Vengeance juggernaut. fight a sin? Apply dots asap, reflect maul spam, taunt to reduce dmg, use cc, def cooldowns, mad dash to break stealth avoid big hits, push to reset leap etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RACATW Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) You can't. Dps jugg will never win unless the sin is terrible. Edited January 23, 2020 by RACATW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrixxieTriss Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) You can't. Dps jugg will never win unless the sin is terrible. Not exactly true. The sin does not need to be terrible, you just need to be a better over all player. If you are you can win and that in no way make the sin terrible. It just makes the Jugg player better. If skill is equal, which it never is, the the sin will win regardless of current meta because the can stealth and heal to full. Edited January 24, 2020 by TrixxieTriss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lundorff Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 You write sins, plural, so I expect you mean at least 2 at a time. In short, you are boned. Assuming equal level of skill, the sins with burst you down and kill you eventually. You should be able to force 1 of them to cloak out, but they will be back with full health to help finish you off. 1 vs 1 is an entirely different matter, and my money would be on the jugg, again, assuming equal level of skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrixxieTriss Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) 1 vs 1 is an entirely different matter, and my money would be on the jugg, again, assuming equal level of skill. But how about that sin also stealthing to heal up? And then come back and wear you down. And don’t forget the multiple tactical swapping they can do to give them two Stealths My moneys on the sin. Edited January 24, 2020 by TrixxieTriss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbadker Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Jugg has much better DCDs than a Sin, so you best bet is to know when they are going to vanish and do your own tactical swap / channel hatred immediately. Use your CC when you are able to do your biggest damage and break range as much as possible since you are doing dot damage as Veng. It is an uphill battle if you are not Immortal, but the fight is pretty close if you are both playing correctly and countering eachothers DCDs. The hard thing to overcome is if the Sin is good and stops hitting you immediately when you pop Enraged Defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lundorff Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) But how about that sin also stealthing to heal up? And then come back and wear you down. And don’t forget the multiple tactical swapping they can do to give them two Stealths My moneys on the sin. If we are talking a straight up 1 v 1, then the jugg will most likely lose combat when the sin cloaks out i.e. jugg can H2F as well. Even without this, my money is still on the jugg due to far superior DCD - some which might come off cool down when the sin is out healing. A jugg that knows how to leap for immunity will leave the sin quite vulnerably for most of the fight. That being said, there are many sins that would school me on my jugg because they are straight up better players, but generally speaking I would not fear the encounter. and break range as much as possible since you are doing dot damage as Veng. Sorry but that is terrible advice. The only reason to move away from a sin, would be to leap for immunity - and you certainly don't want a sin on your heels while trying to lumber away. Sins has terrible defenses, and you should stay right in their face. Edited January 24, 2020 by Lundorff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbadker Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 sorry but breaking range with mad dash to leap in again is great against assassin. Your goal in a 1v1 is to have a higher damage uptime than your opponent. If you can get your dot rotation off, mad dash into a charge you have given yourself much more uptime than the assassin. I am not saying, hey run around while an assassin hits you in the back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lundorff Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 sorry but breaking range with mad dash to leap in again is great against assassin. Your goal in a 1v1 is to have a higher damage uptime than your opponent. If you can get your dot rotation off, mad dash into a charge you have given yourself much more uptime than the assassin. I am not saying, hey run around while an assassin hits you in the back... Then we are in complete agreement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbadker Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Great! Lets be friends! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuSeC Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Guy guys guys... Taunt the sin while in combat (Single target and AOE Taunts) when you think they will vanish... keeping them in combat and unable to sleep you and H2F because both are still in combat. This forces them to wait allowing more time for your superior DCDs to come off cooldown. Also, spam your slow, while it does minimal damages, it also can pop them back out of stealth and kills their opener also keeping them in combat. The only time I am bested by a sin is when I don't have all my CDs up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mannok Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Just to confirm do the OP mean actual /duel (1v1) or doing "General PvP" and meeting N' fighting an "Assassin" alone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasxero Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 play immortal spec; ive literally never lost a duel against any sin in this spec...even with the stealth out, mez and heal cheese tactic. It used to be slightly harder when they could phase walk but now its just a matter of smacking them into submission. As a DPS jugg? heh, i'd recommend forgetting that and rerolling a fury Mara and using the spliced genes tactical to annoy the hell out f that little burst window, obfuscate then demolish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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