CaptRogue Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Seems the upcoming changes in Dec include increasing ranked weekly matches from 20 to 50!! This will not fix the "problem" of mat farmers. Let your voice be heard on the PTS. It's already going to be hard enough to get gear with the new changes now they're changing it so that you can't even get many toons their weekly working your butt off running granked. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=9661628#post9661628 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totemdancer Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 (edited) Vote No +1 Edited October 26, 2018 by Totemdancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KendraP Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 *** where is this coming from? This just became the dumbest thing I've read today. No weekly increase +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syal Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 /sing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lundorff Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 But wins also count x5, so this isn't really a big deal. Assuming a 50/50 win / loss ration you need about 7 wins and 7 losses to reach 20 matches (21 points) in the current system. In the new system those 7 wins and 7 losses would put you at 42 points. So okay, sure, you need a couple more matches to reach 50, but it's negligible if your aim is to actually play and win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladech Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Seems the upcoming changes in Dec include increasing ranked weekly matches from 20 to 50!! This will not fix the "problem" of mat farmers. Let your voice be heard on the PTS. It's already going to be hard enough to get gear with the new changes now they're changing it so that you can't even get many toons their weekly working your butt off running granked. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=9661628#post9661628 Man... I already see tonnes of throwers who throw just to get mats In solo ranked and now they will sit there more.... Brilliant ideas devs, just brilliant.... Rip ranked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assatrap Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 But wins also count x5, so this isn't really a big deal. Assuming a 50/50 win / loss ration you need about 7 wins and 7 losses to reach 20 matches (21 points) in the current system. In the new system those 7 wins and 7 losses would put you at 42 points. So okay, sure, you need a couple more matches to reach 50, but it's negligible if your aim is to actually play and win. oh my goodness.... this is very ingenious ....jesus christ...devs you dam sons of ...now thats how you design a nice REWARD-TO-EFFORT system. So in theory and practice... mat farmers have to play about 40-50 games to complete the weekly (since they will loose 9/10 games due to throwing and being complete clueless noobs) and those that are serious, put in the effort and time into TR... will probably get away with 10-20 games as the current system. BRAVO DEVS!!! only the lazy and the greedy MAT farmers will complain on this new system. Everyone else applause this ingenious solution. Making money on TR with minimum effort was too easy this is exactly right solution! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coloneli Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 I like it, quite abit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm-Cutter Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 (edited) Man... I already see tonnes of throwers who throw just to get mats In solo ranked and now they will sit there more.... Brilliant ideas devs, just brilliant.... Rip ranked I've achieved the weekly a few times over, so I'm not exactly hard-core, but In all the scratch pug teams I've been in, We've always played for a win. Apart form a couple of bot teams which are dead simple to defeat, I've never really noticed a team not trying to win right back at us. Edited October 26, 2018 by Storm-Cutter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kukumburr Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 (edited) I think solo ranked weekly should just straight up be get something like 5-10 wins and losses don't count at all. And then maybe up the reward. I don't think they can really do that with grouped since it can always be the same teams that you might just never be able to beat. I don't really care whether it's 20 or 50 games but I don't see how it's going to stop that many mat farmers. Especially since CMT costs are probably going to go up because of the insane cost for crafting the new gear. Edited October 26, 2018 by kukumburr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ld-Siris Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 I signed yes. I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CannotDeny Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 I vote no. I'm on that side of "tries as much as he can" along with my team, but still lose to better and more coordinated opponents. Do I need to get an aneurysm struggling to get wins and getting stressed over it not happening, then lose motivation to try as I lose matches in which I was outplayed? No, which is why the weekly isn't so bad now. I can play, do my best, still strive to be competitive, and not get too pissed over losing. inb4 the simple solution is get good, but if everyone's good then nobody loses In any case, there's people that are better, and teams that are better, and players who try but still lose shouldn't be penalized to stroke someone's dick. On top of that, why complain if you fight mat farmers? Get your wins and your ranks. If they're the only team queueing, it's not like you miss out on anything since there's nobody else to fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthobbit Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Sounds like a great way to decrease game participation! I guess I won't do granked then. This sounds like a great incentive to play more Overwatch instead of waste my time looking for CMTs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MandoMetal Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Yes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediKnightGeorge Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 While I think I understand the reasoning, I'm not sure how I feel about this. I'm a decent PvP'er (not trying to sound arrogant) and do okay in Ranked, but that doesn't mean I I'm gonna win all of my matches even if I'm trying my best and have a good team. These changes still force you to play a lot of extra matches and put in a lot more time (something those of us in college don't always have) even if you are competitive and trying to win. Think I'd have to vote no as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cylestat Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I think they should keep to 20, or if they move it to 50 significantly increase the reward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rion_Starkiller Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I vote YES. Kill the mat farmers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memerobot Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 (edited) Honestly, to push away mat farmers faster, weekly should just be super short, not bigger. "Oh but then they'll alt and keep the rhythm up". Not really since they stay there until they finish weekly. Faster weekly finishing = less griefing from these peeps. I mean, they added mats in order to make Ranked pretty much a new way of obtaining rare stuff(Yeah, I take the "make ranked more populated" not so seriously. It made it worse when it was supposed to be the opposite). That above would be one fix. Or make the other fix work like this: Weekly 9 matches, only wins count. If mat farmers want the goods, they have to work for it. Edited October 31, 2018 by memerobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janglor Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 If you enjoy easy rating, this is great. Now you get to farm the same 4 toons for 50 wins instead of 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rion_Starkiller Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 (edited) Honestly, to push away mat farmers faster, weekly should just be super short, not bigger. "Oh but then they'll alt and keep the rhythm up". Not really since they stay there until they finish weekly. Faster weekly finishing = less griefing from these peeps. I mean, they added mats in order to make Ranked pretty much a new way of obtaining rare stuff(Yeah, I take the "make ranked more populated" not so seriously. It made it worse when it was supposed to be the opposite). That above would be one fix. Or make the other fix work like this: Weekly 9 matches, only wins count. If mat farmers want the goods, they have to work for it. That's a fair point. I was being a little bit facetious though... because if we made it too hard for mat farmers, would ranked even pop? Except new season and end of season? It's hard to balance trash pops versus no pops. If you enjoy easy rating, this is great. Now you get to farm the same 4 toons for 50 wins instead of 20. Edited October 31, 2018 by Rion_Starkiller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memerobot Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 That's a fair point. I was being facetious though... because if we got rid of the mat farmers, would ranked even pop? Except new season and end of season? **** pops are better than no pops, I guess. Well, between the chaos that SR is with mat farmers and the "non existant" pops(pretty sure it pops frequently) I prefer the 2nd really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rion_Starkiller Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 I think non-existent pops mean wintrading at 3 am, unless you trust BW to police it. What if you only win-trade 1 match per day? Maybe you fly under their radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memerobot Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 I think non-existent pops mean wintrading at 3 am, unless you trust BW to police it. What if you only win-trade 1 match per day? Maybe you fly under their radar. The whole ranked is a joke anyway. You think its not possible to wintrade now but it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazz_Devlin Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 But wins also count x5, so this isn't really a big deal. Assuming a 50/50 win / loss ration you need about 7 wins and 7 losses to reach 20 matches (21 points) in the current system. In the new system those 7 wins and 7 losses would put you at 42 points. So okay, sure, you need a couple more matches to reach 50, but it's negligible if your aim is to actually play and win. i beg to differ when you can't even get a ranked match to pop currently how will this help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raansu Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 i beg to differ when you can't even get a ranked match to pop currently how will this help? Ranked pops frequently on SF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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