Gizban Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 No Republic players are going to participate in World PVP if the Empire can simply call in the Legions of Minions. If the current pattern holds, will this spell the premature death of World PVP in ToR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jebi Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 (edited) Instanced mini games and associated rewards already killed world PVP. (once the honey moon period wears off) Faction imbalance just put another nail in it. Edited December 16, 2011 by Jebi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beleb Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 As a Republic player I am looking forward to this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadabrax Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Its going to balance out after the kids get their game on Christmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haeslich Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Are we really talking about the death of TOR 48 hours into it? Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caveslug Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Its going to balance out after the kids get their game on Christmas You really think the "kids" as you call them when they unwrap there ToR game, wont be playing dark side.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoydofZINJ Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Its going to balance out after the kids get their game on Christmas When all the kiddies will roll bad arse sith and not goodie good jedi? We naturally are born to be bad.. and like bad boys more than the sweet boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikyouto Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Instanced mini games and associated rewards already killed world PVP. (once the honey moon period wears off) Faction imbalance just put another nail in it. Same problem RIFT had. Pushing instanced PvP right at launch is a bad move. Oh well, the damage done. Nothing you can do about it now. Faction imbalance doesn't kill World PvP. If anything it is a positive contribution to World PvP. More targets out in the world for you to start **** with. But like Jebi stated the real menace to world PvP is often the presence of instanced PvP and optimal PvP gearing paths through those mini-games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadabrax Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Same problem RIFT had. Pushing instanced PvP right at launch is a bad move. Oh well, the damage done. Nothing you can do about it now. Faction imbalance doesn't kill World PvP. If anything it is a positive contribution to World PvP. More targets out in the world for you to start **** with. But like Jebi stated the real menace to world PvP is often the presence of instanced PvP and optimal PvP gearing paths through those mini-games. WoW had like a gazillion horde at first, then every 1 went alliance. Give it 1 month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otohime Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 it's all about quality not quantity , 1 mill minions = 1 pro raid of pvp players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomag Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 The only empire players that are expected to have fun in wpvp on a heavy empire server, are the jedi shadows. Cause stealth = skeeeeeel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearst Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Considering 90% of the community isn't even to the level/world where most World PvP takes place, I think you're jumping the gun a bit on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nijraw Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 (edited) Its going to balance out after the kids get their game on Christmas Bro kids now days are EVIL, now back in the day kids had some heros, nowdays kids want the antihero, i have a 12 year old i know, lol. look at this crap http://swtorprogress.com/members.php Here are the totals by server type as of end of day December 13: RP-PVE servers (entire World): Empire 25,986 | Republic 30,393 | Hey look, more good guys than bad guys. A lot of RP players want to be a Jedi or Smuggler. What a surprise! Not PVE servers (entire World): Empire 107,974 | Republic 86,269 | Empire +25% population PVP servers (entire World): Empire 137,732 | Republic 66,586 | Empire has 2.1 times the population Edited December 16, 2011 by Nijraw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zythaera Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 (edited) Before the servers went down, i had fun on tatooine. Had a group of 15 jedi chasing me all over the place for 90 minutes. Who knew being a sith assassin could be so much fun. World PVP is very much... alive. Edited December 16, 2011 by Zythaera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaffTheVillage Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 300.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nijraw Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 If you want Balanced World PvP you have to roll on a RP server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastaDarklight Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 (edited) it's all about quality not quantity , 1 mill minions = 1 pro raid of pvp players Sad but its not. 2v3 u can win. 2v4 u just cannot win - to many CC. Same with mass pvp - when its will be fight lets say 50v80 or even more because balanced is totaly for Empire (like 2,5-3:1 on pvp server - and i hope they will do somthing with it) its 100% lose for 50 ppl grou. There is no way to win such thing. Different is with open pvp - u can get group of ppl and go to other fraction planet. But seems that there is too few ppl on planet now. If i see server full and 150ppl on Coruscant that is really few. So in open pvp there will be a problem to get some enemies. Edited December 16, 2011 by CastaDarklight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelzrael Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 300.. I was thinking the same thing. Good opportunity for a group of ******es to own if they role republic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyranen Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Bro kids now days are EVIL, now back in the day kids had some heros, nowdays kids want the antihero, i have a 12 year old i know, lol. look at this crap http://swtorprogress.com/members.php Here are the totals by server type as of end of day December 13: RP-PVE servers (entire World): Empire 25,986 | Republic 30,393 | Hey look, more good guys than bad guys. A lot of RP players want to be a Jedi or Smuggler. What a surprise! Not PVE servers (entire World): Empire 107,974 | Republic 86,269 | Empire +25% population PVP servers (entire World): Empire 137,732 | Republic 66,586 | Empire has 2.1 times the population agreed, this isnt SWG when the expansions came out. the balance isnt to bad. the numbers are a bit intimidating to a republic player like myself. But I havent even gotten to any open world pvp zones so im not gonna say its ruined yet. I think republic players will need to rely a bit more on organizing and guilds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitdingo Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 World PVP is all about the zerg, always has been, always will be. In this game, the Empire zerg will run over any and all Republic players which leads to no one playing Republic, which leads to a slow death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quashar Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 (edited) World PVP is all about the zerg, always has been, always will be. In this game, the Empire zerg will run over any and all Republic players which leads to no one playing Republic, which leads to a slow death. No sir. A bigger zerg can be easily beaten by much smaller zerg by cooperation. We proved that in AION during it's early months fighting opposing faction that controlled every fort apart from one which was unconquerable until people geared up, beaten them up hard, after which they quit the server. Cya in Ilium! <3 Republic Player Edit: And of course, 3:1 ratio will zerg opponents and there is nothing to be done. 2:1 will not pubstomp an organized raid. it's all about quality not quantity , 1 mill minions = 1 pro raid of pvp players /signed Edited December 16, 2011 by Quashar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 No Republic players are going to participate in World PVP if the Empire can simply call in the Legions of Minions. If the current pattern holds, will this spell the premature death of World PVP in ToR? All 2 faction OW PvP systems fail eventually. You need 3 factions for them to work, not 2. MMO Design 101, at your service... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakamper Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 The kids all want to be Anakin Skywalker so itøs going to be eaven wors after xmas I'm afraid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doombomb Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 When I played WoW I played on one of the most active, if not the most active, world pvp servers. The balance in population on each side constantly shifted over the years (yes, years), but when one side was low world pvp didn't die because of it. It simply took a guild full of people who wanted to show that even outnumbered they can win, and after proving such the balance again would begin to shift. Sure, right now there are going to be a million Imperials (including me!), but given time it will even out or shift in the Republic's favor. Even better, the Republic may come out with more battle-proven veterans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masanis Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 My friends and I went Republic because we welcomed the faction imbalance. We'll just have to play smarter on the Republic side and avoid all the kids with their pewpewrofl force lightning the best that we can. Also, 300 ftw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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