I have to admit, having seen the prequel trilogy, I'm shocked anybody would think it's still a good idea to follow Lucas down the rabbit hole and continue to beat dead horses.

 

There's an infinite number of other stories to tell in the Star Wars universe, but hey, let's just keep focusing on a core of five or six dudes, no matter how terrible those stories turn out.

There's nothing wrong with George Lucas's core story its just his direction of them that people are usually critical of.

I actually hope they do get Harrison Ford, Carrie and Mark (Surely hes had some form of acting lessons by now) to sign on.. And I hope they have a good role not a cameo

What I also hope though is they allow the writers to do there own thing and kick all the EU stuff into touch... Its 99% crap

Just FFS keep Lucas away from the building.... I give him full credit for the idea and the management of getting a team together to get his idea on the screen and visualizing it.. But it was that team who deserves most of the praise..

Re JJ Abrams Im not worried.. I cant stand anything he puts on TV - hes an "ideas man" that studios and advertisers love.

By the way hasnt Kasdan said in the last week "Its news to him"

I think he was right with ST (its a TV show - it was never suited to film - despite the great production and music sometimes - it was let down always by the fact only Nimoy seemed to have ever learnt how to Act over all those years)

Watching his film work I think Super 8 shows he has great skill (and affection)in re creating the atmosphere and film of the 80s style. This could work wonders if applied to the SW films.. We dont want super clean over the top CGI fests that the prequels became.

There's nothing wrong with George Lucas's core story its just his direction of them that people are usually critical of.

You mean his complete lack of understanding his own film?

All the prequels did was reveal GL didn't even understand his original films. All his friends saved the films in editing and script changes.

It was painfully obvious when the prequels were released.

In case somebody didn't already point it out:

Disney has clearly stated that they have no plans on pulling in any expanded universe story into the movies moving forward. They stated EU is not canon and only the movies will be.

Remember that the names attached to these movies are all movie writers and they have massive egos. Some story from comics and novels won't even be looked at by them.

You mean his complete lack of understanding his own film?

 

All the prequels did was reveal GL didn't even understand his original films. All his friends saved the films in editing and script changes.

 

It was painfully obvious when the prequels were released.

I guess that would be one interpretation my personal gripe was that much of the acting seemed flat despite having great actors filling the roles then there's the midichlorian thing and jar jar didn't help.

Remember that the names attached to these movies are all movie writers and they have massive egos. Some story from comics and novels won't even be looked at by them.

Thats a good point and a shame really, because Zahn is a good writer and unique in respects that he was one of the first to create compelling characters (antagonists) post Vader/Palpatine.

Would have been interesting to see what he could have come up with as a consultant, but I guess they are pretty much covered in this area.

However, I assume the idea is that he would be playing "70 year old" Solo ... so ... how could he not play a 70 year old version of that character?

And there in lies the issue, as the character is not the same character.

He has had a lifetime of events to change him. This isn't Jack Ryan who we have seen grow older. This isn't even James Bond, going from rookie Casino Royal to old man Skyfall James Bond. Han Solo is a brash and charasmatic character, brash characters don't survive to be old men without a story about losing the brashness, and old men need some level of dignity Solo didn't have as the scoundral to not be creepy.

Bringing in a new actor for the Han Solo character prequal film is great, but to then also have Ford for Abrams Episode 7... it isn't going to be Solo but some old man interpretation of one of cinema's greatest characters, and how often has that been successful in film franchises? If it isn't going to be Solo, this can only be as dangerous to the cool factor of the character as what the prequals did for Boba Fett's and Vader's cool factor.

Finally, do we need a reminder on screen to how old we have gotten since Return of the Jedi. Adventure is for the young and young at heart.

Side note: Can we eave Lucas out of this, because he is only a consultant at best to Lucas Film now and everyone knows that he can't write or direct anymore. Bashing him for his mistakes in a forum that wouldn't exsist but for his vision and work is beyond thought. This man made some great works and is the only man who can look most anyone on the planet and honestly say 'I have forgotten more about making cinema than you will ever know'.

You mean his complete lack of understanding his own film?

 

All the prequels did was reveal GL didn't even understand his original films. All his friends saved the films in editing and script changes.

 

It was painfully obvious when the prequels were released.

Not understanding his own work/creation ? Really ? Do you realize it makes no sense unless you assume he wrote on crack ?

It's like saying Van Gogh didn't know who he was painting when painting his own portrait.

I'd rather say that people didn't understanded him, and made false assumptions of his ideals from the original movies.

Not understanding his own work/creation ? Really ? Do you realize it makes no sense unless you assume he wrote on crack ?

It's like saying Van Gogh didn't know who he was painting when painting his own portrait.

 

I'd rather say that people didn't understanded him, and made false assumptions of his ideals from the original movies.

I would love to see an aged General Solo in partial command of the Rebel fleet, or perhaps special operations. I think many of the original cast have places, including Luke, Leia, Han, and of course our favorite droids.

Not understanding his own work/creation ? Really ? Do you realize it makes no sense unless you assume he wrote on crack ?

No, While I admire some of his work, Lucas plainly did not see his films the way viewers saw them. His bizarre direction choices and outright lies don't help matters any. After all, he claims the story was planned from the start, he knew what he was doing... Lies on both counts, he had no idea the way he wanted the story to go and pretty much made it up on the fly. Darth Vader, for instance, was not originally supposed to be Luke's father, and was just some evil general who's name was literally 'Darth Vader" and not a title. That's just one example.

And unfortunately the man did not have much talent either. The films he had the biggest hands in are weaker than the originals, despite having EVERY ADVANTAGE over the originals: Excellent, experienced actors, Huge amounts of money for visual effects/appeal... And with that, the Phantom Menace still managed to be an absolutely horrible movie. [seriously, go back and watch it sometime.] and AoTC nearly as bad.

No, While I admire some of his work, Lucas plainly did not see his films the way viewers saw them. His bizarre direction choices and outright lies don't help matters any. After all, he claims the story was planned from the start, he knew what he was doing... Lies on both counts, he had no idea the way he wanted the story to go and pretty much made it up on the fly. Darth Vader, for instance, was not originally supposed to be Luke's father, and was just some evil general who's name was literally 'Darth Vader" and not a title. That's just one example.

Um how did you come up with that and how do you know he is lying?

Its just like me saying I have a ferrari and you without even knowing me or who I am saying no you are lying!?! Just a example

Not saying Im a fanboy but I think all the sw movies was good and not bad. I ike space and the way they discribe it in thr movies. I like the ideas and I like the lightsaber duels in the new films. The story and lore is interesting and things like that you cant just come up with just like that and if one could then that would only be great.

why not try to write something like it and see if you can do any better?

All I have to say is if they keep the same people in the movie it will be good. If they get new actors then it will most likely be bad. Why? Simple. Look at all the movies over the last few years that have added new actors to the same storys, or Squels. How many of them were great, and had great reviews? Now do the same thing, but with the same actors insted of new ones. How many of those were great if not just as good? The numbers will tell you the truth of what will be better. If a movie was great and original and you want it to keep going, and followed then you keep the same strong actors. Movies and shows have proven this in history. The issue I am seeing now a days with movies is the Newer generation is clashing with the old. See younger people who were born in the 90s and up have a diffrent taste in movies. People who were born in the 50's and up are feeling the change and views of how movies should be made. There are new movies and I can say are great, but I can also say some old ones were just as great if not better. In the end it all depends witch way you want movies to be. You want them to hold on to what made them great or do you want to try and make them completely redone, and change them to try and make them better. Its all up to the people that wright them, and make them. How ever I think the saying classics will always be the best hold true.

A new car with alot of cool things in it can be cool, but there is still some thing about a old classic that gives you a feeling the new cars just can't.

I mentioned in a previous post I didn't see how they can bring back Harrison Ford without Fisher and Hamil and if the latest rumor is any indication we may indeed see the core cast in e7.

Skywalker and Solo kids to be focus of Episode 7