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New Pyro mercs 2.4


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Discoteck
10.07.2013 , 06:11 AM | #1
So anyone else been getting bigger numbers in 2.4 with pyro?

http://i43.tinypic.com/143zw43.jpg

I've been using the IM>TD>RS>Unload>RS then dotting 2 more enemies with IM then switching back to focus target with 1 or 2 PS then RS>TD>IM>Unload>RS. With the obvious rapid shots to keep the heat down.

Since 2.4 i am having a much better time controlling heat but this tree is still pretty useless for arenas IMO.

What are your thoughts on the rotation? Not including FM and DFA which are situational.

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Ottohi
10.07.2013 , 08:41 AM | #2
Yes, right now pyro is seeing more damage due to the 2 rail shot buffs. One was a general damage buff the other was dual wielding bonus. Powertechs only see the general damage buff.

The rotation you have looks pretty good. I would suggest throwing Thermal Det first only because you have to wait 3 seconds for it to go "BOOM!"

As for arenas, you'd be surprised. With 16 heat for the biggest DoT, one can throw DoTs everywhere really quickly and then vent heat. Unless they stagger their cleanses you can catch someone with one. With the new railshot buff and TD burst buff you can catch people off guard witha 4k TD, 6k rail, 4k instant (Use the cooldown) power shot, and then a 6k rail shot again (20k damage). This of course assume you're awesome and it all crits and you have ~70% surge. It's also much more mobile for LoS killing instead of being the focus fired turret in the middle of the room.

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Zoom_VI
10.07.2013 , 02:29 PM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by Discoteck View Post
So anyone else been getting bigger numbers in 2.4 with pyro?

http://i43.tinypic.com/143zw43.jpg

I've been using the IM>TD>RS>Unload>RS then dotting 2 more enemies with IM then switching back to focus target with 1 or 2 PS then RS>TD>IM>Unload>RS. With the obvious rapid shots to keep the heat down.

Since 2.4 i am having a much better time controlling heat but this tree is still pretty useless for arenas IMO.

What are your thoughts on the rotation? Not including FM and DFA which are situational.
Why are you dotting multiple targets with IM? That does little to nothing and adds no pressure to the healer and at the same time is wasting your GCDs and is building to much heat.

Also I will point out that if you can it would be better to use power shot to get the RS proc because your RS would be fired at the same time that PS is hitting the target so its more burst. Of course if your being pressured you use unload for the instant proc at the beginning. Note that PS procs RS pretty much 100% 6 seconds after your last RS proc, the tooltip lies.
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Discoteck
10.07.2013 , 04:46 PM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by Zoom_VI View Post
Why are you dotting multiple targets with IM? That does little to nothing and adds no pressure to the healer and at the same time is wasting your GCDs and is building to much heat.

Also I will point out that if you can it would be better to use power shot to get the RS proc because your RS would be fired at the same time that PS is hitting the target so its more burst. Of course if your being pressured you use unload for the instant proc at the beginning. Note that PS procs RS pretty much 100% 6 seconds after your last RS proc, the tooltip lies.
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I understand that the IM to the two other targets does little to add to the burst. However if your dps'ing a healer and you dot the tank too or you want to set up your next target if you believe your current is getting low. If you just got your free rail shot and TD is on CD you have little burst left and i don't believe you are sacrificing much burst for the surrounding dots.

Also putting IM on multiple people does help a great deal during 1v2's and 1v3's.

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Phrase
10.07.2013 , 08:05 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Discoteck View Post
I understand that the IM to the two other targets does little to add to the burst. However if your dps'ing a healer and you dot the tank too or you want to set up your next target if you believe your current is getting low. If you just got your free rail shot and TD is on CD you have little burst left and i don't believe you are sacrificing much burst for the surrounding dots.

Also putting IM on multiple people does help a great deal during 1v2's and 1v3's.
edit: nvm your ss is a reg wz.

Nice dmg though.

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szczypaczek
10.07.2013 , 11:08 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Discoteck View Post
I understand that the IM to the two other targets does little to add to the burst. However if your dps'ing a healer and you dot the tank too or you want to set up your next target if you believe your current is getting low. If you just got your free rail shot and TD is on CD you have little burst left and i don't believe you are sacrificing much burst for the surrounding dots.

Also putting IM on multiple people does help a great deal during 1v2's and 1v3's.
doting multiple people is just for numbers bro u had 1,2kk dmg and 7 kills, thats just nothing. That means pyro is trash spec and u played it only to farm numbers not to kill ppl.
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Discoteck
10.08.2013 , 02:16 AM | #7
I told you my rotation. Don't believe me? don't really give a ****.

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szczypaczek
10.08.2013 , 05:36 AM | #8
doting everyone isn't dmg for me. U are showing some useless pic of 1,2kk dmg. Should i clap?

i mean what's the reason behind tab doting on merc, u won't replenish any heat from crit dot ticks like snipers do. U get only higher fluff dmg numbers on the scoreboard if noone will cleanse them, that's all.
irn-ldy / commando

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Choffware
10.08.2013 , 09:07 AM | #9
Well he did get the second highest kills on his team. The highest on the other side was only 15. It seems to me this was healer stalemate. He also had no deaths which is pretty good also. But this is a small sample size so I wouldn't claim anything really. But I think he's doing pretty well, I might try pyro this week.
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DkSharktooth
10.08.2013 , 10:18 AM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by Discoteck View Post
So anyone else been getting bigger numbers in 2.4 with pyro?

http://i43.tinypic.com/143zw43.jpg

I've been using the IM>TD>RS>Unload>RS then dotting 2 more enemies with IM then switching back to focus target with 1 or 2 PS then RS>TD>IM>Unload>RS. With the obvious rapid shots to keep the heat down.

Since 2.4 i am having a much better time controlling heat but this tree is still pretty useless for arenas IMO.

What are your thoughts on the rotation? Not including FM and DFA which are situational.
GL doing that in group que ranked 4v4 arenas. You're to squishy.