NamikazeNaruto Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 (edited) Accidental double post, sorry. Edited April 30, 2013 by NamikazeNaruto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xinika Posted May 11, 2013 Author Share Posted May 11, 2013 This'll be updated around the end of the month-next month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronic Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 o_O nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xinika Posted May 18, 2013 Author Share Posted May 18, 2013 Thread updated. Old links will be replaced soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperSquad Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 you have added only infiltration or i missed something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xinika Posted May 19, 2013 Author Share Posted May 19, 2013 you have added only infiltration or i missed something? Balance/KC will be added as well. I'm making those guides now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperSquad Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 k thanks man hybrid tank/dps is not an option anymore right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenalandavie Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Balance/KC will be added as well. I'm making those guides now. Is the infiltration just a levelling one? I haven't had chance to get to my computer yet so haven't viewed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltimateKrucible Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 This'll be updated around the end of the month-next month. Hey! Great! Glad to have you back, Shin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kovaos Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 k thanks man Pretty sure it's "k thanks ma'am" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xinika Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 (edited) hybrid tank/dps is not an option anymore right? No idea, but from the looks of it, no. Give me time to test, I've been known to pull bunnies out of hats. Is the infiltration just a levelling one? I haven't had chance to get to my computer yet so haven't viewed it. Leveling one, yes. Hey! Great! Glad to have you back, Shin Glad to be back. Edited May 22, 2013 by Xinika Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kovaos Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Glad to be back. Where did you go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xinika Posted May 27, 2013 Author Share Posted May 27, 2013 (edited) Where did you go? Few odd jobs irl and a general breath of fresh air from the game. I have a lot of work to do on updating this guide, but I realized a few things that needed to be filled in, which of course, included lowbie leveling. Lots of people roll a Shadow and that spot is missing. Also min/maxing at 55 is a completely different case, and it'll take some time before I can post anything related to that category. It is however my intention, along with some other goodies these forums can use. Edited May 27, 2013 by Xinika Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xinika Posted May 28, 2013 Author Share Posted May 28, 2013 New Vid inc. ETA 1-2 weeks. Topics to be covered. -Advanced Shadow/Sin Training -Gearing in 2.0 -Min/Maxing (DPS and Possibly Tank with Zabuza) -Specs For the record, min/maxing is not as hard as it used to be, but getting the parts itself will take time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xinika Posted May 31, 2013 Author Share Posted May 31, 2013 Major update. Refer to OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satedbuffalo Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 (edited) Hi Shin, First time caller, long time listener. I had some questions about your Partisan vs Conqueror math. For the sake of saving time and making this easier for readers, let's convert the off stats to 1 stat: Off Stats. So basically, we'll combine Surge, Power, or Crit, Alacrity etc. +8 Armor +9 Endurance +8 Main Stat +7 Off Stats Now this is 1 piece of gear, we have a total of 14 pieces to upgrade. So let's multiply these numbers by 14 for the full set. The issue here is that while you have 14 slots, not all slots function the way you describe. The obvious example is relics, where the difference in passive stats between partisan and conqueror is, in fact: +5 Endurance +0 Main Stat +2 Off Stats Moreover, five out of fourteen of those slots provide no armor (implant x2, earpiece, relic x2). Furthermore, without enhancements playing a role, bracers and waist offer lesser gains than other slots, and obviously the endurance gains from the same, without enhancements, is less than your model. This is why simply multiplying by 14 as you do here: 14x8 = +112 Armor 14x9 = +126 Endurance 14x8 = +112 Main Stat 14x7 = +98 Off Stats Now this is the shift from full Partisan to full Conq. ...isn't quite accurate. Rather, the model should be closer to this: Helm, Chest, Gloves, Legs, Feet (x5) +8 Armor +9 Endurance +8 Main Stat +7 Off Stats MH and OH (x2) +5 Endurance +7 Main Stat +6 Off Stats +96 Force Power Belt and Bracers (x2) +8 Armor +7 Endurance +6 Main Stat +3 Off Stat Relics (x2) +5 Endurance +0 Main Stat +2 Off Stats Earpiece (x1) +7 Endurance +7 Main Stat +7 Off Stats Implants (x2) +10 Endurance +7 Main Stat +10 Off Stats Note: I chose to use light armor for the armor differentials (as this is a shadow/assassin guide), but be aware that the degree of difference varies by armor weight. I've seen this same math applied in other contexts to represent the difference between Partisan and Conqueror for [i]all[/i] classes, which is why I make this note. Ultimately, this means a total gain of: +56 Armor, rather than +112 Armor +106 Endurance, rather than +126 Endurance +87 Main Stat, rather than +112 Main Stat +84 Off Stats, rather than +98 Off Stats +96 Force Power (not listed in the original model) [Admittedly, the earpieces vary in endurance/mainstat weights, so those numbers are slightly variable. Regardless of these variances, the original numbers are still significantly inflated.] I was also curious about your using augments only on the conqueror gear. When gearing up, do you avoid augmenting your partisan gear? I found the remainder of your update up to your usual high quality. Edited May 31, 2013 by Satedbuffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tordis Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 (edited) So I'm replacing Partisan power relic now with dmg proc and I'm not sure which one I should be getting. Could u please tell why you have Conqueror Relic of Dark Radiance which does less internal damage than kinetic one? You also get internal damage reduction with force valor buff. Edited May 31, 2013 by Tordis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xinika Posted May 31, 2013 Author Share Posted May 31, 2013 Hi Shin, First time caller, long time listener. I had some questions about your Partisan vs Conqueror math. Hiya, those were done for an average number collective, not a direct. As you can see, I left out Force Power, a major DPS increase. I just wanted people to be aware that there is a difference. I have added your version. (Is this okay with you?) I was also curious about your using augments only on the conqueror gear. When gearing up, do you avoid augmenting your partisan gear? I rip the mods out and place it on custom gear. Augments should be acquired first. They are the biggest upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xinika Posted May 31, 2013 Author Share Posted May 31, 2013 So I'm replacing Partisan power relic now with dmg proc and I'm not sure which one I should be getting. Could u please tell why you have Conqueror Relic of Dark Radiance which does less internal damage than kinetic one? You also get internal damage reduction with force valor buff. Greetings, I chose Dark Radiance because it deals internal damage over kinetic. Internal is less mitigated than kinetic of energy damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satedbuffalo Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Hiya, those were done for an average number collective, not a direct. As you can see, I left out Force Power, a major DPS increase. I just wanted people to be aware that there is a difference. I have added your version. (Is this okay with you?) I rip the mods out and place it on custom gear. Augments should be acquired first. They are the biggest upgrade. Yes, feel free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamikazeNaruto Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Great guide as expected of you Shin . Once my tank gear is finished I'll be consulting your guide when I gear up my DPS set . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenalandavie Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 25% crit with buff? I pull off bigger hits with 20% crit with buff, Anytime i run with 25% crit for a week i notice i am hitting for less then usual even when it does crit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xinika Posted May 31, 2013 Author Share Posted May 31, 2013 25% crit with buff? I pull off bigger hits with 20% crit with buff, Anytime i run with 25% crit for a week i notice i am hitting for less then usual even when it does crit. You will hit for less, of course, but your consistency will be much better. Sidenote: Also I do not support bugged gear / bolster systems, therefore do not expect me to post anything related to gearing up for an issue that will eventually be fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenalandavie Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 You will hit for less, of course, but your consistency will be much better. Sidenote: Also I do not support bugged gear / bolster systems, therefore do not expect me to post anything related to gearing up for an issue that will eventually be fixed. I didnt mention the bolster system?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xinika Posted May 31, 2013 Author Share Posted May 31, 2013 I didnt mention the bolster system?. I know you didn't. It wasn't a direct to you, it was to anyone wondering why I haven't put in gear/numbers for the bugged bolster system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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