I know everyone wants Pazaak and I am sure they will add it in time or at least they said it is on the table but something I haven't seen anyone discuss is to expanding on it. What I mean is I think a huge addition would be to make that casino in Nar Shadar an active casino. Just that one area where all the games are. So maybe not only add Pazaak but add other types of games from slots to maybe new types of games or there is that craps looking table also I always see.

I just think doing something like would be a blast. I know I could spend some hours just gambling. Just thought I would bring this up because that last event we had we had to go through that casino and I always kept thinking how cool it would be if you could actually play all those games (besides just Pazaak) and having that as an active casino.

If it is a dumb idea then fine, but wanted to see if anyone else would want to spend time gambling on more games besides just pazaak.

I very much like this idea. It's something very different, that I don't imagine would be too hard for BW to implement, but something I imagine a lot of people would enjoy. Bit of a change of pace from the rest of the game!

Something I would personally love to see, good shout!

As someone who works for a casino, this is a bad idea for a game especially when there are younger children playing the game, and the fact that it is gambling.

Big no no.

There is a reason it didn't come with pazaak, gambling against the NPCs in KOTOR is one thing, against real people in SWTOR a whole other area.

I know everyone wants Pazaak and I am sure they will add it in time or at least they said it is on the table but something I haven't seen anyone discuss is to expanding on it. What I mean is I think a huge addition would be to make that casino in Nar Shadar an active casino. Just that one area where all the games are. So maybe not only add Pazaak but add other types of games from slots to maybe new types of games or there is that craps looking table also I always see.

Cool idea. Being Nar Shadaa, maybe it could be an interfaction casino?

PS - I still click on that lit card table near the beginning of Essels/Black Talon every time, just in case they snuck in playability.

As someone who works for a casino, this is a bad idea for a game especially when there are younger children playing the game, and the fact that it is gambling.

 

Big no no.

 

There is a reason it didn't come with pazaak, gambling against the NPCs in KOTOR is one thing, against real people in SWTOR a whole other area.

I think it would be player vs house.

I will also have fun reading all the rage posts about how someone blew 2 million credits gambeling it away and blames BW/EA for rigging the game and stealing their money.

I think it would be player vs house.

 

I will also have fun reading all the rage posts about how someone blew 2 million credits gambeling it away and blames BW/EA for rigging the game and stealing their money.

And that will be why it wont be put in. Though if they put in "Crates" and make you get "Keys" it will be a sad day for this MMO.

agreed.

also allow player gambling with eachother at pazaak or other games.

whole heartedly approve

As someone who works for a casino, this is a bad idea for a game especially when there are younger children playing the game, and the fact that it is gambling.

 

Big no no.

 

There is a reason it didn't come with pazaak, gambling against the NPCs in KOTOR is one thing, against real people in SWTOR a whole other area.

Arenanet should be sued in a class action lawsuit for their key/treasure chest real money gambling.

Pazzak is not even close to gambling with ingame credits in a fictional sci fi casino.

Playing against other players is fine, as long as the currency or points you accrue is used for innocuous things, not things that would be considered to have cash or any other monetary value.

PotCO has poker against NPCs and other players, games you can join at any time, and the winnings are in coins, the game's currency. So far they have had no problems from state or federal government, but that could change in the future.

If you do have some kind of winnings, best to make it money for pure fluff items...like special emotes, color buffs, sound changes for weapons....and if they ever allow us to decorate the interiors of our ships they could offer interior decorations this way.

Of course you can have rankings and treat it like PVP, only with cards. So one could offer experience.

Arenanet should be sued in a class action lawsuit for their key/treasure chest real money gambling.

 

Pazzak is not even close to gambling with ingame credits in a fictional sci fi casino.

Its still a blurry line with the fact that credits can be bought/sold in most MMOs even if its against the ToS.

I personally don't want to see gambling in SWTOR as it will degrade the game socially.

Crafting needs a revamp SWG style

As someone who works for a casino, this is a bad idea for a game especially when there are younger children playing the game, and the fact that it is gambling.

 

Big no no.

 

There is a reason it didn't come with pazaak, gambling against the NPCs in KOTOR is one thing, against real people in SWTOR a whole other area.

This isn't reality.

If they add something like Pazzak it's going to be more along the lines of the SWG Trading Card game where you pay for the cards, packs of cards, and maybe have to buy an entry for official tourneys but no real money is ever on the line when you play.

To think that exchanging video game currency (that has no monetary value) between players is illegal or gambling is ridiculous.

I can't believe that people think it's a good idea to take the cutting edge of interactive computer entertainment and jazz it up with... a card game?

Fair point. These're classic lore games for those interested. Also a different venue for social interaction and killing time.

I know everyone wants Pazaak

Incredibly incorrect.

I'd prefer they spend resources on something that matters, not a moronic side-game.

As someone who works for a casino, this is a bad idea for a game especially when there are younger children playing the game, and the fact that it is gambling.

 

Big no no.

 

There is a reason it didn't come with pazaak, gambling against the NPCs in KOTOR is one thing, against real people in SWTOR a whole other area.

Depends on how it's done, but in any case won't be close to the highly regulated environment you work in, which is that way for good reason.

If implemented properly, it wouldn't have to be any more of a no no than PVP. Two or more players compete, winners gain something, losers don't. Kids play real card games, dunno what your point is there. Real or in-game currency wouldn't even need to be on the table. New toon titles, shiny swag, etc. No conflicts there.

Incredibly incorrect.

 

I'd prefer they spend resources on something that matters, not a moronic side-game.

Side games can add a lot of fun to games, and add areas to chill and talk with friends instead of strenuous battling all the time.

Yes, I think that a much broader array of minigames would be a nice step up past what has already been done in other games. Like it or not, gambling is well-established in the lore of Star Wars, from Han Solo winning the Millenium Falcon from Lando Calrissian in a game of sabaac to Qui-Gon Jinn wagering on a pod race to win the funds and parts needed to repair a ship and leave Tatooine.

As someone who works for a casino, this is a bad idea for a game especially when there are younger children playing the game.

Why on Earth should "younger children" be playing a game rated "T" in the first place? Sorry - the "think of the children!" argument is hollow. There are people whose job it is to do that – parents, foster-parents and guardians.

As long as it is game currency (credits) and not real-world currency or Cartel coins being wagered, then in-game player-versus-player gambling is nothing to worry about, any more than PvP combat is. Simulated gambling falls within the scope of the ESRB's "T" rating.

As an aside, this might have done better in the Suggestion Box forum, or even in any of the dozens of existing threads regarding Pazaak already on the boards.

Its still a blurry line with the fact that credits can be bought/sold in most MMOs even if its against the ToS.

 

I personally don't want to see gambling in SWTOR as it will degrade the game socially.

 

Crafting needs a revamp SWG style

Just as a side note, SWG had gambling. Just sayin....

Plus, this game has one part at least where you can gamble on the results of running through a minefield run if you so choose. So gambling is in, and the rewards are in real in game currency.

Now, that's a pretty weak example but it is the fact of the matter.

Incredibly incorrect.

 

I'd prefer they spend resources on something that matters, not a moronic side-game.

I agree 100% with you. I have absolutely no desire for Pazaak. I'd rather they add a new space mission, and I find space at 50, useless.

As an aside, this might have done better in the Suggestion Box forum, or even in any of the dozens of existing threads regarding Pazaak already on the boards.

This isn't about Pazaak though. It is about having a full blown casino with other games. They have tables and different looking machines set up in the casino on Nar Shardar already. I don't feel I should have posted in one of those existing threads because I feel this was a good new topic about a nice social place to chill and play minigames. The casino looks awesome and fun and just hate going in there when it could be packed with people.

People keep complaining about LFG ruining the social aspect so adding this would just help.

If people are worried about the money then they can set a max bet of like 500 credits then or something.

I hate to bring up SWG but a huge gathering place was the cantinas and people would play to just dance or chill in there and socialize. So why not have something like this? Plus like someone said, Star Wars had a lot of gambling in it. People betting on the Pod Racing etc. Tatooine was huge for that.

I agree 100% with you. I have absolutely no desire for Pazaak. I'd rather they add a new space mission, and I find space at 50, useless.

Guess what.....??? You aren't forced to play and you don't have to. OMG serious? But you know what is funny? I will bet you would still play. Say no you wouldn't all you want. to look cool but I know you will be playing them at one point.

Pazzak is not even close to gambling with ingame credits in a fictional sci fi casino.

Many local ordinaces in fact make this sort of thing illegal.... making Bioware legally liable to criminal prosecution for offering it in game. Some local ordinances make it legal if you have a locally issued license..... and the whole internet gambling thing is a giant black hole of localities issueing fatwas on it and threatening to sue.

Arenanet should be sued in a class action lawsuit for their key/treasure chest real money gambling.

Maybe, though this is actually a grey area that so far has not inflamed local community moralists I guess.