omniqix Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) Heads up to Lucasarts/EA (or moderators, please forward to whom it concerns) I uploaded some SWTOR gameplay videos and i got the following: Dear *****, Your video may have content that is owned or licensed by Alloy Inc, but it’s still available on YouTube! In some cases, ads may appear next to it. This claim is not penalizing your account status. Visit your Copyright Notice page for more details on the policy applied to your video. Sincerely, - The YouTube Team I googled and found some other people complaining that "Alloy Inc" is claiming copyright on their SWTOR videos. What this means is that they are making prolly money on those videos, as well as discouraging others from uploading foootage. So if EA/Lucasarts can look into it... because I dont think this company noone has heard about has rights to Star Wars or SWTOR footage? Edited July 24, 2012 by omniqix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baphomet_x Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 dont worry..if this claim of yer pans out youl have the vast armys of lucas arts to eradicate the problem with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omniqix Posted July 24, 2012 Author Share Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) here is another person I found with the same issue: http://twitter.com/joshtarle/statuses/196147485780090880 also see post in another forum quote: "Uhm why is YouTube claiming my SWTOR screencap video is copyrighted by something called Alloy Inc? And how do I fix that?" Edited July 24, 2012 by omniqix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafaman Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 lol. It will be interesting to see what Lucas Arts and EA for that matter do about this. Make no mistake, there will be a cease and desist letter if there hasn't been already from LA to Alloy Inc. I'd love to get ring side seat. My money is on LA on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Karsk Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) Sounds to me someone is trolling youtube and the youtube people is not so smart. Relax people, if you tube removes your video just sue them. Edited July 24, 2012 by Lord_Karsk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenjaminminU Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 whats the betting that this "Alloy Inc" is a rabid 12 year old wow player wanting the videos down because he hates swtor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baphomet_x Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 http://www.hoovers.com/company/Alloy_Inc/hsyjsi-1-1njht4-1njfaq.html hmmm,this is seeming more fishy by the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alavastre Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I did a quick search on this, and Alloy Inc seems to be a marketing firm. Don't know if it's the right one, but it could make sense. If Alloy is contracted to market SWTOR, then they may have a claim on those videos. Click Here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomC Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Here is their Twitter feed.: We should probably ALL ask them why they are illegally claiming copyrights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shingara Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Never heard of them so i doubt they could go up against lucas, ea or bioware. Mind you that said i dont think anyone could go up against lucas when it comes to copyright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlbo_Nabbins Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) Here is their Twitter feed.: We should probably ALL ask them why they are illegally claiming copyrights. How do you know its illegal, Alloy Inc is probably under contract from EA to handle marketing on sites such as Youtube. As such they would legally represent the copyright holder. Edited July 24, 2012 by Arlbo_Nabbins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alavastre Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 How do you know its illegal, Alloy Inc is probably under contract from EA to handle marketing on sites such as Youtube. As such they would legally represent the copyright holder. Exactly. It is very possible they are hired by EA to help market SWTOR. Still, doesn't hurt to ask. Maybe if you get angry they will stop pulling down vids from youtube. I'm surprised marketing people still do this crap, the more free publicity the better. That, and you'll never stop people from uploading it anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siegeshot Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 How do you know its illegal, Alloy Inc is probably under contract from EA to handle marketing on sites such as Youtube. As such they would legally represent the copyright holder. This is the only plausible explanation. I guess we'll wait and see. Very interesting read in the mean time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halfadozen Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Why does this need to be a thread? I'm sure those in the know at BioWare/EA are more than aware of any situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlbo_Nabbins Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Exactly. It is very possible they are hired by EA to help market SWTOR. Still, doesn't hurt to ask. Maybe if you get angry they will stop pulling down vids from youtube. I'm surprised marketing people still do this crap, the more free publicity the better. That, and you'll never stop people from uploading it anyways. From what the OP says the videos are not being pulled, they are having ads placed next to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeckoOBac Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Why does this need to be a thread? I'm sure those in the know at BioWare/EA are more than aware of any situation. Because, we are not. So some form of confirmation that either their claims are legitimate or that something is being done is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeknomStun Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Why do you want an explanation? Why do you even care? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kourage Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Why do you want an explanation? Why do you even care? I could ask you the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screaming_Ziva Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 How do you know its illegal, Alloy Inc is probably under contract from EA to handle marketing on sites such as Youtube. As such they would legally represent the copyright holder. If the Twitter feed that was posted is correct, I really don't see how EA would hire this company to handle their marketing: "We're the top teen site for fashion, celebs, horoscopes & quizzes here to give you the latest fashion and entertainment news!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pocketthesaurus Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I did a quick search on this, and Alloy Inc seems to be a marketing firm. Don't know if it's the right one, but it could make sense. If Alloy is contracted to market SWTOR, then they may have a claim on those videos. Click Here. Only if people are making actual marketing videos. If it's a gaming video to show how to do something or how awesome you are, that's completely different. If it's just a general video with lots of random scenes that seems to show off the overall experience, then yeah, it's like a marketing video and they might have a claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeElam Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 It's a new "featue" on YouTube, Originators of footage can tag it as copyrighted. YouTube's servers scans your video when you upload it. If it contains patterns of the tagged copyrighted material it is rejected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChillWinterheart Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I'd also like to know who died and gave this company the right to tell players to back off from uploading their SWTOR videos. If I'm a gamer and interested in SWTOR but wanted to check out the gameplay first, YouTube would be the first place I'd go to. If I don't see any videos for it in YT, i'd assume not a lot of people are playing it, or like it enough or care enough about the game to actually post about it. That would really make me think twice about playing the game! And marketing company? There is no better marketing than your very own customers. If your customers are promoting your product even if you don't pay them, then why in the seven circles of hell are you going to stop them? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AroJay Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 How do you know its illegal, Alloy Inc is probably under contract from EA to handle marketing on sites such as Youtube. As such they would legally represent the copyright holder. Righthaven v Democratic Underground. A company or person who does not actually own the copyright in question has no grounds to sue for infringement, even if the actual rights holder contracted them to. Transferring a "right to sue" to another entity is against copyright law. The only one who is allowed, by law, to file copyright infringement claims is the actual entity who holds the copyright. What Alloy Inc is doing looks to be the exact same thing that got Righthaven blasted into oblivion in federal court, and gave Stephens Media a huge black eye. If EA, or someone at EA, thought this was good idea, they aren't keeping up with current case law regarding copyrights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlbo_Nabbins Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 If the Twitter feed that was posted is correct, I really don't see how EA would hire this company to handle their marketing: "We're the top teen site for fashion, celebs, horoscopes & quizzes here to give you the latest fashion and entertainment news!" Probably because they specialise in trawling social media sites and so have the tools and experience to do so cheaply, something that EA may not have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlbo_Nabbins Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) Righthaven v Democratic Underground. A company or person who does not actually own the copyright in question has no grounds to sue for infringement, even if the actual rights holder contracted them to. Transferring a "right to sue" to another entity is against copyright law. The only one who is allowed, by law, to file copyright infringement claims is the actual entity who holds the copyright. What Alloy Inc is doing looks to be the exact same thing that got Righthaven blasted into oblivion in federal court, and gave Stephens Media a huge black eye. If EA, or someone at EA, thought this was good idea, they aren't keeping up with current case law regarding copyrights. Blah Blah blah. That ruling only applies to the right to file lawsuits. The DMCA for example specifically allows people to make claims as an authorised agent of the copyright holder. Do people not read the OP, copyright infringement is not being claimed here, what they are claiming is the right to attach adds beside the videos due to ownership of some of the content. I'd also like to know who died and gave this company the right to tell players to back off from uploading their SWTOR videos. See above, from what is in the OP this is nothing to do with stopping people uploading SWTOR gameplay videos. Edited July 24, 2012 by Arlbo_Nabbins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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