Jabbb Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 (edited) Feel free to disagree or post your own version but: 1.40 Hybrid sorc 1.40 Healer merc 1.40 Dot marauder, properly played 1.30 Pure heals sorc 1.20 Pure heals Operative 1.20 Non Dot marauder, properly played 1.10 Pyro PT 1.05 Assassin Tank 1.05 Assasin DPS 1.05 Pure DPS sorc 1.05 Sniper in cover or on a ledge 1.0 Pyro merc 1.0 Concealment Operative 1.0 hybrid tank Pyro PT 0.95 Pure tank PT 0.95 Vengence Jug 0.95 Arsenal Merc 0.85 Tank Juggernaut 0.80 AP PT 0.80 Sniper, not in cover/on a ledge Ranked as a ratio, such that 1 merc healer is worth 1.4 concealment operatives This is my view playing A PyroPT and a Marauder, and with input from an operative, based on the performance of other players. Edited February 24, 2012 by Jabbb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongrul Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 what do the numbers mean and how are these ranked? power doesn't really define anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidank Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I'm confused by this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotardNosef Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I agree with most, but I'd say move the hybrid sorc down, move a full madness spec'd sorc up, and move the Lightening ones way down, move up Pyro's and assassins. Madness assassins are still quite strong in PvP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongrul Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 are these ranked the hardest to kill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evuke Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 player who knows what they are doing 1:00 noobs: 0:00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabbb Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 Ranked as a ratio, where average is one, and a healer merc is worth 1.4 average classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobaFurz Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 This is my view playing A PyroPT You should not have that big problems with a dot marauder, just dispel his dots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabbb Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 You should not have that big problems with a dot marauder, just dispel his dots. Using my sorc dispell? PTs don't have a dot cleanse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobaFurz Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Using my sorc dispell? PTs don't have a dot cleanse. If you say so..alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabbb Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 If you say so..alright. Uh, yes? PT is the tank/dps AC of BH it doesn't have healing abilities like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobaFurz Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 (edited) What sorc dispel are you talking about btw ? I would like to know who can cleanse sorc/sage dots. Edited February 24, 2012 by BobaFurz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cegenaus Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 (edited) i love the biased names given to each spec, lends much credibility to the list What sorc dispel are you talking about btw ? I would like to know who can cleanse sorc/sage dots. purge Edited February 24, 2012 by Cegenaus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidank Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 0.95 Annihilation Jug what is this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanscholo Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 'tracer spamming mercs' lol, clearly you havent played one to see that they made the rest of our abilities work from tracer missile spam... Its bad design not bad play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evuke Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 'tracer spamming mercs' lol, clearly you havent played one to see that they made the rest of our abilities work from tracer missile spam... Its bad design not bad play. the thing that makes it lame is how hard they hit, that's why everyone complains about them, and why you all use them so much i'm sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kronomandar Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 0.95 Annihilation Jug 0.85 Tank Juggernaut juggs come in three flavours. annihilation isnt one of them. vengence jugg (sustained damage) against skilled opposition, this is king. rage jugg (burst) against noobs, this is best for lol farming kills immortal (tank) best for working with a team. focus is on winning the match, rather than beating the opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabbb Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 'tracer spamming mercs' lol, clearly you havent played one to see that they made the rest of our abilities work from tracer missile spam... Its bad design not bad play. That was sort of derogatory, but I wasn't implying that they were bad players I don't think they're very powerful in direct combat, very counterable (interrupt) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cegenaus Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 That was sort of derogatory, but I wasn't implying that they were bad players I don't think they're very powerful in direct combat, very counterable (interrupt) you dont say? one could call pyro the cop out spec for those who cant survive as an arsenal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzerbase Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Quite the statistician are we. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor_Troll Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 player who knows what they are doing 1:00 noobs: 0:00 yeah basically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEAF Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 So the conclusion is all healers OP? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumri Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 You don't know what you're talking about at all. You just have a general idea of what various specs kind of do. "Annihilation Juggernaut" is LOL. "DoT marauder" and "Not the dot marauder" - we come in 3 flavors. "Pure DPS Sorc" There's two specs. There's a bunch more I could point out. You can't comment accurately on class balance if you don't know how other classes work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabbb Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 You don't know what you're talking about at all. You just have a general idea of what various specs kind of do. "Annihilation Juggernaut" is LOL. "DoT marauder" and "Not the dot marauder" - we come in 3 flavors. "Pure DPS Sorc" There's two specs. There's a bunch more I could point out. You can't comment accurately on class balance if you don't know how other classes work. The two non dot marauders are pretty even in my mind, the dot one (annihilation) is best by far in skilled hands. And I meant and replaced with vengence Juggs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanzibal Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I get what the guy was trying to do, and I basically agree with his list (at least the top part). Nice work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts