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The reason Sorcerers/Sages are OP in PvP

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The reason Sorcerers/Sages are OP in PvP

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moneky
02.07.2012 , 06:03 PM | #121
No, the reason they're OP is because people like you complain about them.

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darth_billy
02.07.2012 , 06:47 PM | #122
he recommends to simply move the good skills on higher tiers of the trees not to nerf sorcs/sages. acoording to your saying none of you is an oped hybrid, then whats your problem with that?

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Tumri
02.07.2012 , 06:55 PM | #123
Quote: Originally Posted by darth_billy View Post
he recommends to simply move the good skills on higher tiers of the trees not to nerf sorcs/sages. acoording to your saying none of you is an oped hybrid, then whats your problem with that?
this.
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syntxerr
02.07.2012 , 07:43 PM | #124
I really don't understand this whole whining about Sages. In fact they are extremely squishy at higher levels. If you find yourself beating around on some shield for 2 minutes, you're either doing something wrong or you're level 14.

There are classes which manage to kill me in seconds...

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LabcoatSamurai
02.08.2012 , 03:39 PM | #125
The problem with this thinking is that it's all about level 50 PvP.

If you move the talents up the tree, you are changing the PvE leveling dynamic of the class. If I, as a TK sage, can't get TK Wave as my 11 point talent, what are you going to give me instead? How much playtesting and rebalancing do we need to make sure that's fair for all levels of play both in PvE and PvP? And once you've accomplished all that testing and balancing.... what about all the other talents you mentioned? This simply doesn't seem like a feasible solution.

A better one would be to disincentivize hybrid spec in other ways. For example, take Wrath. Right now, it procs all the time and can apply to both crushing darkness and chain lightning, whichever one happens to be off cooldown. So put a limit on how often it can proc, like once per 10 seconds or so. That makes it much less useful to hybrid spec, since you can get that once per 10 second instant chain lightning from pure lightning spec, anyway.

Or if you don't like that, make it so it only reduces the casting time to 0 for *specific* abilities.

Basically, the more strict synergy you enforce within a tree, the less incentive anyone will have to do a hybrid spec.

But you don't want to take it too far.... it'd be nice for hybrid to be a viable option, still.

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Vesperr
02.08.2012 , 04:22 PM | #126
I think one reason why sorcs are so sturdy is that bubble isnt affected by trauma. Its too good, srsly.

p.s. They killed assassin hybrids but not sorc hybrids... GJ BW, GJ.
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Vales
02.08.2012 , 04:28 PM | #127
Quote: Originally Posted by darth_billy View Post
he recommends to simply move the good skills on higher tiers of the trees not to nerf sorcs/sages. acoording to your saying none of you is an oped hybrid, then whats your problem with that?
Make TK viable and we have a deal. As long as TK is bad you won't get any sympathy,
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Vales
02.08.2012 , 04:30 PM | #128
Quote: Originally Posted by Tumri View Post
1. Did you even read the OP?

2. Marauders don't have hybrid options. I wouldn't care if you moved around some talents.

3. Marauders have some of the lowest burst DPS in the game. We're sustained damage.

4. Read. The. Original. Post.

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I really dislike how all the sorc/sages are now using attacks against me to try and discredit this thread. Please have some decency and actually respond/reply to the issues I have raised in the original post. Enough with the BS.
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boobaffet
02.08.2012 , 04:50 PM | #129
Quote: Originally Posted by Tumri View Post
Not even worth my time to upload pics so I'll just use the ones I posted before. I don't "get destroyed" by anyone. That doesn't mean I don't understand when a class is imbalanced and needs to be fixed.

https://imgur.com/a/P3lM4#0
yes, nerf marauder.

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Vales
02.08.2012 , 05:16 PM | #130
Quote: Originally Posted by Tumri View Post
this.
Too bad it would pigeonhole us into 31 Balance/+X because TK is crap. But hey what would you care it is better to whine on forums than to L2P.
This game needs more Kel Dor!