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DarthSpuds
05.30.2019 , 12:18 AM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Nemmar View Post
Perhaps you missed the memo, but the game had thousands of bugs. Fixing them all would make it impossible to make new content, so they prioritized..
And still reduced new content to a minimum in favour of prioritising the Store.

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Phazonfreak
05.30.2019 , 02:37 AM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Approbate View Post
To finally come to the realization that this game is STILL in a sorry, broken, state as it was when it was released on Dec 20, 2011. I've seen bugs today that existed from when the game was released 2717 DAYS AGO! EA/Bioware, you could not find the time, in 2717 days, to fix these things? I hope you go out of business. SOON!
Well, since a new EXPANSION comes out in SEPTEMBER I think you still have to wait for this to happen FOR A WHILE!

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LeMage
05.30.2019 , 08:34 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by TrixxieTriss View Post
LoL, and it will take them 10 years to fix the bugs in that game too
That quick, huh?
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jedimasterjac
05.30.2019 , 08:51 AM | #14
You know, bugs aren't easy things you can magically fix. It's not like you have a game, and the developers just have to press a "fix bug" button.

Bugs are often complicated because the source can be difficult to pinpoint, and altering the problematic code can (and likely will) lead to a host of new problems.

For very minor bugs, it's often best to just let them be.

I'd love to know what bugs you were experiencing, too; this game is certainly buggy, but I've never had anything ruin my play experience.
Quote: Originally Posted by Grand Master Yoda
We are what they grow beyond. That is the burden of all masters.

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OlBuzzard
05.30.2019 , 09:04 AM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by jedimasterjac View Post
You know, bugs aren't easy things you can magically fix. It's not like you have a game, and the developers just have to press a "fix bug" button.

Bugs are often complicated because the source can be difficult to pinpoint, and altering the problematic code can (and likely will) lead to a host of new problems.

For very minor bugs, it's often best to just let them be.

I'd love to know what bugs you were experiencing, too; this game is certainly buggy, but I've never had anything ruin my play experience.
You are corrrect up to a point.. but some of them are seriously annoying. I really don't think we need to list them all (don't have that kind of time on my hands really).. BUT there are some that really do become what many would call "quality control" issues. And IMO ... EA really should allow BW a bit larger budget to try to squash to larger ones and really help give a bit of confidence to the rest of the community at large.

I do agree that some of the smaller ones .. yeah I get that. Some times better to leave alone ! But there are several that without question need some attention. It should be noted that the people who do the work... are doing what they are told to do. So someone waaaaaaaaay up the food chain in EA/BW needs to show some kindness to the staff of BW and to the SWTOR community and allocate some extra cash to bug squashing.
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robertthebard
05.30.2019 , 10:30 AM | #16
But... I thought everyone quit because the game was too easy... /hide

I've been around, off and on, for quite a while now, and I have yet to experience any game breaking bugs. The closest I got was crashing to the desktop yesterday when trying to go to Alderaan. I'm going to blame that on event that transpire 3000 years later, sort of like I did with the lag there. The planet knows what's coming, and it's getting revenge...
Quote: Originally Posted by Transcendent View Post
Also, just a small point. Why should anyone who plays this game exclusively for any particular type of content, have to run a different type of content just to earn gear? What is that attitude all about?

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OlBuzzard
05.30.2019 , 11:35 AM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by robertthebard View Post
But... I thought everyone quit because the game was too easy... /hide
ummm actually the mass exodus began with the KotFE / ET realm. People were really pissed ! IMO .. I kind of liked both ...
We lost a lot over how the entire companion status was handled... Everyone lost ALL companions. Back in those days we had to "build" their specs.. soooo all of that was wiped out as well. A lot of work and lot of credits ... gone ... Just simply gone.

Then PvP got screwed up big time ... That didn't exactly help out much (can't imagine why)...

Well ... back to a thumb nail sketch of stuff... frankly we gained some new companions and managed to limp along. Some of it good... some of it not so good.
Companions we gained:
Theron
Lana
and if you were LS we also gained HK-55 (please don't go there.. one thread on this is enough)
We also gained Gault / Vette
Senya ... and more

I left for a while in the middle of this. So many were so bitter..

Grinding for gear ... that got messed up as well.


OK... then came the return ...back to the original Kill the Jedi format (my personal title ) ... and some are coming back. Well some don't like the new format.

At this point I'm not argueing right or wrong.. Just what got thigs started.

Some of it was bad .. some things we gained were good. I just hope when all the crap settels down we can get back to having fun again..
** Wheather you do PvP or not.. It MUST be returned to where it's fun again ! And there are a couple really good threads on this right now !
** Companions ... need to be returned to where they were a part of the game again ... and a lot of fun. Again several good threads .. some with good suggestions too !
** PvE .. a good balance with good content ... and plenty of it ... hopefully with a few less bugs.
** Strongholds ... yeah .. kind of need a little help too ... a lot of good suggestions out there as well.

At any rate.. A lot to do that can be turned into a lot of good. We can always focus on the negative and tear down stuff that's easy ... BUILDING things UP ... That's another matter.

Just my opinion ..
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jedimasterjac
05.30.2019 , 11:38 AM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by OlBuzzard View Post
You are corrrect up to a point.. but some of them are seriously annoying. I really don't think we need to list them all (don't have that kind of time on my hands really).. BUT there are some that really do become what many would call "quality control" issues. And IMO ... EA really should allow BW a bit larger budget to try to squash to larger ones and really help give a bit of confidence to the rest of the community at large.

I do agree that some of the smaller ones .. yeah I get that. Some times better to leave alone ! But there are several that without question need some attention. It should be noted that the people who do the work... are doing what they are told to do. So someone waaaaaaaaay up the food chain in EA/BW needs to show some kindness to the staff of BW and to the SWTOR community and allocate some extra cash to bug squashing.
I really would like to know these bugs, though.

I've played since beta. I haven't had any bugs that would reach that serious level, so if they're things that happen, I'd like to at least know what they are.

And I mean, yeah, there should be a bigger budget and more staff allotted to this game. It isn't a thing that we can control, and whining on the forums won't bring that about.
Quote: Originally Posted by Grand Master Yoda
We are what they grow beyond. That is the burden of all masters.

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robertthebard
05.30.2019 , 05:17 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by OlBuzzard View Post
ummm actually the mass exodus began with the KotFE / ET realm. People were really pissed ! IMO .. I kind of liked both ...
We lost a lot over how the entire companion status was handled... Everyone lost ALL companions. Back in those days we had to "build" their specs.. soooo all of that was wiped out as well. A lot of work and lot of credits ... gone ... Just simply gone.

Then PvP got screwed up big time ... That didn't exactly help out much (can't imagine why)...

Well ... back to a thumb nail sketch of stuff... frankly we gained some new companions and managed to limp along. Some of it good... some of it not so good.
Companions we gained:
Theron
Lana
and if you were LS we also gained HK-55 (please don't go there.. one thread on this is enough)
We also gained Gault / Vette
Senya ... and more

I left for a while in the middle of this. So many were so bitter..

Grinding for gear ... that got messed up as well.


OK... then came the return ...back to the original Kill the Jedi format (my personal title ) ... and some are coming back. Well some don't like the new format.

At this point I'm not argueing right or wrong.. Just what got thigs started.

Some of it was bad .. some things we gained were good. I just hope when all the crap settels down we can get back to having fun again..
** Wheather you do PvP or not.. It MUST be returned to where it's fun again ! And there are a couple really good threads on this right now !
** Companions ... need to be returned to where they were a part of the game again ... and a lot of fun. Again several good threads .. some with good suggestions too !
** PvE .. a good balance with good content ... and plenty of it ... hopefully with a few less bugs.
** Strongholds ... yeah .. kind of need a little help too ... a lot of good suggestions out there as well.

At any rate.. A lot to do that can be turned into a lot of good. We can always focus on the negative and tear down stuff that's easy ... BUILDING things UP ... That's another matter.

Just my opinion ..
I was here for a lot of that, I was just making a snide remark about another thread. I've read that the mass exodus out before F2P was based more on no end game content, that the game was too easy, and that there were way too many bugs. It's likely that all have some contribution, but it varies from thread to thread which was the "primary" reason.

My comps used to be better geared than some of the guildmates I had at the time... At least the main ones were, until the Yavin 4 gear released, then they all had good gear. Which was, of course, wiped out with 4.0, I think. At least the comp gear was repurposed into character gear, and I did keep a set for each archetype, tank, healer and dps. In fact, sorting through some cargo holds the other day, I found a lot of that gear just hiding out...
Quote: Originally Posted by Transcendent View Post
Also, just a small point. Why should anyone who plays this game exclusively for any particular type of content, have to run a different type of content just to earn gear? What is that attitude all about?

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OlBuzzard
05.30.2019 , 07:15 PM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by robertthebard View Post
I was here for a lot of that, I was just making a snide remark about another thread. I've read that the mass exodus out before F2P was based more on no end game content, that the game was too easy, and that there were way too many bugs. It's likely that all have some contribution, but it varies from thread to thread which was the "primary" reason.

My comps used to be better geared than some of the guildmates I had at the time... At least the main ones were, until the Yavin 4 gear released, then they all had good gear. Which was, of course, wiped out with 4.0, I think. At least the comp gear was repurposed into character gear, and I did keep a set for each archetype, tank, healer and dps. In fact, sorting through some cargo holds the other day, I found a lot of that gear just hiding out...
YUP ! again we agree !


What's up with that ??
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